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Expensive Banca 4.6M --- Why?

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samatm

Guys... just looking for a nice Dream banca  to put on my wish list and I came across this one..  It looks great.. Spacious,  Big enigine.. and gulp  a Huge sticker price.   For you guys in the know.  can you tell us why this boat is so expensive.  I mean is about USD $100,000   what it takes to get a good sized banca around here. ..   Is the price fair? 

 

 

 

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Party boat engine 6bg1 isuzu.all power botton.include banana boat kaiak sound system.with comfort room roof deck.contact no for more inquiry Interested in this ad? You may inquire by clicking on any of the available contact buttons on this page. look for kenji....this boat is good for island hopping. Floting restobar.good running condition.where u can view this boat? In cebu city...just call or txt for more info.

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oztony

It appears as though they have transferred their fishing trip from the boat to on land , in hope of catching the biggest sucker , or otherwise known as the gullible fish , possible...

 

Although not uncommon in the PI , this one does reach the ridiculous level with ease .....

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colemanlee

It appears as though they have transferred their fishing trip from the boat to on land , in hope of catching the biggest sucker , or otherwise known as the gullible fish , possible...

 

Although not uncommon in the PI , this one does reach the ridiculous level with ease .....

Now picture it with a bar..completely stocked...class A girls...and no where you have to be....hmmmmmm

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ex231

Now picture it with a bar..completely stocked...class A girls...and no where you have to be....hmmmmmm

With talk like that you're going to start a bidding war.

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Bill H

Keep looking, that is not the boat for you.  Your best plan would be to find a Pinoy you trust to do the looking and negotiating.  You will get the best deal that way.  As soon as the owner knows the boat is of interest to a foreigner, the price will double, or more.

 

Here are things to look for in any used Pinoy boat.

 

Take a butter knife i.e. dull knife without a sharp edge, or a flat head screwdriver.  Go below the deck into the bilge.  Take a knife or screwdriver and gently press into wood.  If it feels spongy or the blade sinks in the boat has dry rot, avoid it like the plague.  Or in the alternative offer a very low price knowing you will spend a lot of pesos replacing all the bad wood.  I did this with a used boat once.  By the time we finished removing the bad wood, 80% of the boat was gone.

 

Pull the boat out of the water and inspect the exterior of the hull.  If you see 1/4" holes in the hull below the water line, it's been eaten by marine borers which are very common here.  Prepare for huge repair bill if you buy the boat.

 

Run the diesel, pay close attention to the exhaust, is it billowing black smoke?  If so, you need to replace the injectors, not a huge deal, but they will still set you back $60 or more each, plus the mechanics time to install them.

 

Pinoy's almost never do ANY work to the used truck engine before installing it in the boat.  Maybe the engine is good, maybe it isn't.  Have a mechanic do a compression test on each cylinder, that would be a good start.

 

Visually inspect outside of engine for oil leaks.  Ditto the bilge under the engine.  If there are oil leaks, something is not right.  Maybe it's just a bad gasket, maybe it's a lot more.  Call competent mechanic and find out.

 

It is very common for Pinoy's to use a used 5-gallon plastic water bottle as a fuel tank.  Need I explain why this is a horrible idea?

 

One of the oldest tricks in the book is to put a fresh coat of paint on an old boat to make it look new.  Maybe it's a new build, but are you sure it's actually a new build?  Inspect, inspect, inspect and you will know.

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RR3

Keep looking, that is not the boat for you.  Your best plan would be to find a Pinoy you trust to do the looking and negotiating.  You will get the best deal that way.  As soon as the owner knows the boat is of interest to a foreigner, the price will double, or more.

 

Here are things to look for in any used Pinoy boat.

 

Take a butter knife i.e. dull knife without a sharp edge, or a flat head screwdriver.  Go below the deck into the bilge.  Take a knife or screwdriver and gently press into wood.  If it feels spongy or the blade sinks in the boat has dry rot, avoid it like the plague.  Or in the alternative offer a very low price knowing you will spend a lot of pesos replacing all the bad wood.  I did this with a used boat once.  By the time we finished removing the bad wood, 80% of the boat was gone.

 

Pull the boat out of the water and inspect the exterior of the hull.  If you see 1/4" holes in the hull below the water line, it's been eaten by marine borers which are very common here.  Prepare for huge repair bill if you buy the boat.

 

Run the diesel, pay close attention to the exhaust, is it billowing black smoke?  If so, you need to replace the injectors, not a huge deal, but they will still set you back $60 or more each, plus the mechanics time to install them.

 

Pinoy's almost never do ANY work to the used truck engine before installing it in the boat.  Maybe the engine is good, maybe it isn't.  Have a mechanic do a compression test on each cylinder, that would be a good start.

 

Visually inspect outside of engine for oil leaks.  Ditto the bilge under the engine.  If there are oil leaks, something is not right.  Maybe it's just a bad gasket, maybe it's a lot more.  Call competent mechanic and find out.

 

It is very common for Pinoy's to use a used 5-gallon plastic water bottle as a fuel tank.  Need I explain why this is a horrible idea?

 

One of the oldest tricks in the book is to put a fresh coat of paint on an old boat to make it look new.  Maybe it's a new build, but are you sure it's actually a new build?  Inspect, inspect, inspect and you will know.

 

Same check-up list with used pinay also, or? Better call competent mechanic and find out.

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Paul

A former friend, now deceased, bought a nice for $7,000 USD, years ago. PLENTY of boat for that price.

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billy

If you have time hire Paul he will build you one. He has free time on his hands

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smokey

Now picture it with a bar..completely stocked...class A girls...and no where you have to be....hmmmmmm

or picture it tied up by colon and 30 little kids are on it jumping into the water... but then where is the 24 hour a day guard...

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ahoy53

Paul,was that Albert that bought a boat for $7000

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Bill H

Same check-up list with used pinay also, or? Better call competent mechanic and find out.

 

No, the mechanic is only qualified to do the mechanical things on the boat, principally the engine and transmission.  He will probably have little experience or interest in doing the other things.

 

Why not do it yourself?  This is not rocket science, you just to take your time and check everywhere.  The more difficult it is to reach an area, the more you need to be sure it is inspected.  Dry rot cannot be hidden by paint.  The wood will look quite sound, but the screwdriver will penetrate quite a ways into the wood.  It's not hard to do, you just need the screwdriver, a flashlight and some time.

 

I did not mention this in my earlier missive but don't forget to check all the plywood, particularly forward where it gets doused with sea water on a regular basis.  On plywood, you're looking for delamination.  This is where the thin strips that were glued together to make the thick plywood sheets come apart and the entire sheet of plywood loose its structural integrity.  Plywood made in the Philippines and China are notorious for delamination.  I believe all the good plywood makers have gone out of business for want of logs, but they were TuffPly and Santa Clara.  Both make a quality product, but I've always favored the TuffPly.

 

Best of luck to you.  Oh, the boat you pictured can't be 4.6m long.  More like 20m or more to my eye.  Even then she is still way over priced.

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Humboldt

Nice Banca , something to really worry about come typhoon season , also you need a captain license to operate vessel of that size  .have you owned a smaller banca before ?

 

Here's a pic of one I had built  total price Tag 70,000p 13hp diesel pull and go ...   

 

 

 

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samatm

No, the mechanic is only qualified to do the mechanical things on the boat, principally the engine and transmission.  He will probably have little experience or interest in doing the other things.

 

Why not do it yourself?  This is not rocket science, you just to take your time and check everywhere.  The more difficult it is to reach an area, the more you need to be sure it is inspected.  Dry rot cannot be hidden by paint.  The wood will look quite sound, but the screwdriver will penetrate quite a ways into the wood.  It's not hard to do, you just need the screwdriver, a flashlight and some time.

 

I did not mention this in my earlier missive but don't forget to check all the plywood, particularly forward where it gets doused with sea water on a regular basis.  On plywood, you're looking for delamination.  This is where the thin strips that were glued together to make the thick plywood sheets come apart and the entire sheet of plywood loose its structural integrity.  Plywood made in the Philippines and China are notorious for delamination.  I believe all the good plywood makers have gone out of business for want of logs, but they were TuffPly and Santa Clara.  Both make a quality product, but I've always favored the TuffPly.

 

Best of luck to you.  Oh, the boat you pictured can't be 4.6m long.  More like 20m or more to my eye.  Even then she is still way over priced.

 

 

Thanks --   fortunately I am not in RUSH  .. Thanks for all your seasoned tips.    Where did you get the Idea she was only 4.6M long?   did you visit the OLX listing?      Any rate.  I was shocked at the price... Thank you for confirming she is way over priced.   Any idea what a good price for something in this category of boat?     Supposedly she is brand new. 

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billy

Thanks --   fortunately I am not in RUSH  .. Thanks for all your seasoned tips.    Where did you get the Idea she was only 4.6M long?   did you visit the OLX listing?      Any rate.  I was shocked at the price... Thank you for confirming she is way over priced.   Any idea what a good price for something in this category of boat?     Supposedly she is brand new.

 

A fair price would be eleven dollars. No from my experience which is nill somewhere in the $15,000.00 range

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Bill H

Thanks --   fortunately I am not in RUSH  .. Thanks for all your seasoned tips.    Where did you get the Idea she was only 4.6M long?   did you visit the OLX listing?      Any rate.  I was shocked at the price... Thank you for confirming she is way over priced.   Any idea what a good price for something in this category of boat?     Supposedly she is brand new. 

 

Dunno, maybe your title had something to do with it: 

 

"Expensive Banca 4.6M"

 

Without seeing her and being able to judge the quality of her workmanship, my best guess would be 12,000-20,000 USD.   There are many variables though so to get a more accurate price the boat would need a thorough inspection.

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