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miles-high

Assuming an RN around age 34yo joins one of the branches as an officer, what would be his or her approx. salary?

 

If she or he goes on to a med school (and becomes a specialist, probably takes total 6 to 8 more years) and becomes an officer at age 40 to 42yo (I believe they accept medical personnel up to 47yo), what would be the salary for an MD then?

 

Just curious to find out who would be ahead of the game at his or her retirement (I cannot find the retirement age for those medical professions who joined late in their career). :D

 

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LechonBuddha

Depends on a lot of variables. Doesn't matter whether you're a Nurse or Doctor your retirement pay depends on rank and years served. Your pay while on active duty also counts the same however, specialty pays also factor in, especially for Doctors. I once heard of a Doctor who was the highest paid service member in the Navy as only an O-5 but held needed specialties. I'm not sure it still continues but medical types received continuation pay annually dependent on specialty, which are bonuses to stick around and can be substantial.

 

I think if the person wants to join they should join now as an RN and go from there. There will be many opportunities to grow professionally while serving.

 

One last thing. Military retirement is changing also and it's probably better to join now and get grandfathered under the current system. As for current pay, best you can do is Google up Military pay grade charts, which will give you base pay only. In addition to that you'd have to add a bevy of allowances and bonuses if they applied. Best option is to talk to a recruiter.

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Lots of variables.

 

Rank upon entry 01-04

Duty location

Medical Specialty

Many types of bonus (flight pay, jump pay, ship duty, language... Many more in lots of fields ).

 

So that said

 

$4500 to $8500 as a base pay then add all other.

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Assuming an RN around age 34yo

 

Stretching it a bit, aren't we? I mean, you are a tad older than 34. :D

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colemanlee

You figure she can retire in 20 years...so 54...go in as a O1 and retire as either an O4/5 which is average for a RN not a bad deal...Im not sure about Doctors and Nurses but you have to attain the rank of O4 to go to twenty...and as I remember you have to do that by 15 years...also have no idea what the max age is for the Medical folks...

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You figure she can retire in 20 years...so 54...go in as a O1 and retire as either an O4/5 which is average for a RN not a bad deal...Im not sure about Doctors and Nurses but you have to attain the rank of O4 to go to twenty...and as I remember you have to do that by 15 years...also have no idea what the max age is for the Medical folks...

 

 

The max age for mandatory retirement  can be waived  depending on MOS  

 

 

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/career/reservepersonnelmgmt/officers/Pages/AttritionRetirement.aspx

 

"The maximum age for all officers (O6 and below) is 62, effective 17 October 2006. 

Note 1:  If an officer is eligible for retirement on his/her 60th birthday, the officer must be approved for retention to remain in the Navy Reserve until age 62.  PERS-911 will notify all affected officers and provide information for requesting retention."
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Salty Dog

I think it depends on the branch of service as to what rank they start as.

 

All Coast Guard doctors are U.S. Public Health Service (USPHS) commissioned corps detailed to the Coast Guard. We didn't have active duty registered nurses. Only Hospital Corpsman (enlisted) and Physician Assistants (Warrant Officers).
 
I've never seen a doctor below the rank of an 04 in the Coast Guard and most of them I saw were 05 and above. 
 

Basic monthly special pay for a doctor ranges from $416.66 to $583.33.
Board-certified specialists receive an additional $208.33 to $500 per month.

Certain specialists who are board-certified in hard-to-fill areas can receive an additional payment ranging from $20,000 to $36,000 annually.

 

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Depends on the need and rank given to start.  Most of the GPs I saw were O-3.  Specialists O-4 or above.  In the AF medical people go through MIMSO (Military Indoctrination for Medical Services Officers).  While we OTS students spent almost 4 months in training, the MIMSOs graduated a new class about every 2.5 weeks.  We rarely saw then but always had a laugh at their marching 'ability' and their uniforms.  At a later point in our training we had a mandatory class on how to read an LES which was kind of funny as most of us were prior enlisted troops.  Anyway, they had the MIMSOs in with us for this one and one was a full Colonel (O-6).  We were told he had been a hospital head and was going to be doing the same after graduating.  

 

As an RN she would perhaps be offered O-2.  In the AF an O-1 gets O-2 in 2 years and O-3 2 years later.  O-4 and above are by competition against other medical officers.

 

One thing you'll want to consider in looking at pay scales is that 'pay' is taxed, 'allowances' aren't.  So Basic Allowance for Subsistence isn't taxed.  Basic Allowance for Quarters (if not living in base housing) is also tax free.  COLA if there is any is also not taxed.  Then there are the special pays which are taxed but none is taxed while in a combat zone.  Also, a big plus for military medical people is not having to pay Malpractice Insurance.

 

I also believe I read where the military retirement system is changing again at the end of this year.  I'm not sure of the details but it generally changes for the worse.  I would try to sign up by the end of the year if that was possible.  The system changed before I got to basic training but I had signed up under the old system so I was ok.

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You should also be aware that she could be deployed up to two years at a time to locations where you are not allowed to accompany her. All in all, I seriously doubt that having her in the military would be a good fit for your lifestyle.

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miles-high

she could be deployed up to two years at a time to locations where you are not allowed to accompany her

 

Hmmm, thank you!

 

Perhaps, I should suggest her to find an RN or GP position on a super cruise ship! :D

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Hmmm, thank you!

 

Perhaps, I should suggest her to find an RN or GP position on a super cruise ship! :D

Probably hard duty to get for someone expecting American wages and from what I've seen they go for 6 month contracts with little time off.

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Salty Dog

Probably hard duty to get for someone expecting American wages and from what I've seen they go for 6 month contracts with little time off.

 

I don't know about the foreign flagged cruise ships, but the US flagged one in Hawaii switched doctors every few weeks or so... 

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miles-high

Hmmm, perhaps, I could deploy myself to Mango, Burgos and/or Walking Street during her deployment... Ooops, that is not a nice thing to say haha  :D

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