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Anyone here ask yourself would you trade your education to go to a Philippine school. If not why would you do that to your children. Find your answers in those questions. Nobody can decide it for you. Most here keep saying private listing costly schools.

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I have 2 stepdaughters   20 yr old in 4th year college at Southwestern for teaching degree. If she were in the USA she would be far behind as she graduated in 10th grade and is on track to finish wi

I have to agree.  I went to rubbish state schools in the UK, left with no qualifications at 16. Well, a 25 yard swimming certificate.  Still managed through dedication and focus to become successful.

If so..  what is it that brought you here in the first place..  there must be something about the Philippines that you love.   And though you might like to get "back" to the UK..  your wife and kids

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My point is don't blame poor children for their poor Filipino education system – send them to good schools, private or public, in country or out, perhaps to Ateneo, UP, Singapore, Cambridge, Ann Arbor, London, Paris, wherever it takes them to…

 

As I said above, it is the parents who should make sure their kids are well-educated and secure their future success, whatever it takes or costs…

 

Sounds great, but how do you propose that a poor Filipino family send their children to one of these institutions...

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Sounds great, but how do you propose that a poor Filipino family send their children to one of these institutions...

study 14 hours a day starting from the age of 3, earn the highest score in every exam and get scholarship.

 

I heard some of them such as IIT do cover full cost.

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My son wil go in a few weeks back to CIE,(cebu) next week he wil get a test for what grade he wil be going, 

 

he been the past two years in Repton school Abu dhabi, before that he was in CIE cebu as well.

 

he was one of the brightest in the class in Abu Dhabi, so i hope that I can compere these schools and levels after a while.

 

(he is almost 7 now.)

 

im quit struggling with this, as like all parents i do like him to have a great education. but he has a European pasport so he always can go anywhere he wants.

 

i got a very low education level,  (Europe) but worked my way up by hard work and determination, im now 44 and wil retire (at least for the next year.)

i wil see how it all works out..

 

what i am saying that if he decided to go to Europe later, he can stil make something of his life..

like my brother in law..

he went to the USA as a nurse, worked his ass of, and now makes (close to)  6 figures..

 

its food for thought ...ALSO for me... i wil decide year by year how to proceed!

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Sounds great, but how do you propose that a poor Filipino family send their children to one of these institutions...

Wow, it is an entitlement mentality is it not? ;)

 

Some families can, some cannot, you just have to do the best you can to give your kids the best educational opportunities you can... Often you may need to sacrifice things to do the best for your kids but children are the future...

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Yes and online unversities are included in that % stats so they are skewed to make it seem better. One choice in the top 500 in the world 100 million people. They have improved since 2014. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

This 'education' discussion interests me.  We all know that at the elite level it is dominated by The USA and The UK.

 

More pertinent, though, is how a country educates people at high school level and how they help young people move in to jobs.  Vocational skills matter as does matching young people with opportunity.

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A lot of folks have already made the crucial point I think - the home environment, the level of effort that parents and family put into education can have a very significant impact.  In the US there's the 'Tiger Mom' effect and a lot of research has been focused on why Asian American kids start to score significantly better than their non-Asian counterparts at a certain age.  It seems that economics may not be as large a factor as one might suspect, it's perhaps simply the right type of encouragement and opportunity with a dose of discipline.  It takes hard work more than anything else.

 

Granted I'm not sure that there are many places in phils that offer the same resources as a typical American city or town.  In many large American cities there are some truly outstanding public schools.  If you have the time and knowledge, and put the effort in your kid can get a very, very good education in places like NYC, Boston, etc.

 

There's still a difference of course between leveraging some great public institutions versus private schools, one that is probably more associated with the University level but actually begins earlier - building that network of influential contacts.  That was something I learned, something I had never even thought of, but the 'Tiger Mom' I raised a kid with, she knew....;-)

 

Bottom line is that YOU can get it done almost anywhere, but it can be very challenging because in some places it's simply going to take a LOT of time and effort.  And not everyone has that kind of time and they may have very limited resources.

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Granted I'm not sure that there are many places in phils that offer the same resources as a typical American city or town.  In many large American cities there are some truly outstanding public schools.  If you have the time and knowledge, and put the effort in your kid can get a very, very good education in places like NYC, Boston, etc.

 

I agree with almost everything you say and won't quote your whole post.  Talking through education with a few Filipinos I know a couple of things stood out for them wrt my own kids' education.  A major one was the calibre of the teachers...'here' they are invariably Uni graduates in a specialist subject rather than generalists.  Another factor is class size.  When it comes to the latter stages of secondary education 'we' have class sizes in the teens.

 

The contrast of a 'general' teacher with class sizes in the 40s or more indicates that the difference is bound to be huge.

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The University of the Philippines (Diliman flagship campus in Quezon City) is ranked in the top 410 universities in the world, and is #70 in all of Asia. That puts it in the top 2.5% of universities in the world.

http://www.topuniversities.com/universities/university-philippines#wur

 

there it is everyone move to manila if you have children and stop spending money on stupid stuff like cars and women and beer and put your kids in this school

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Anyone here ask yourself would you trade your education to go to a Philippine school. If not why would you do that to your children. Find your answers in those questions. Nobody can decide it for you. Most here keep saying private listing costly schools.

I have seen very good graduates. It's less about the education system itself but more about the generic environment, social influences and future opportunities.

 

This place is simply not good enough for children to grow up. We witness the result of it everyday and yet some would rather turn a blind eye....

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This place is simply not good enough for children to grow up....

I suppose there would be millions of Filipinos who disagree with you.

 

I can speak regarding three children in my immediate family. They like living here and have few complaints about their lifestyle and future prospects.

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Anyone here ask yourself would you trade your education to go to a Philippine school. If not why would you do that to your children. Find your answers in those questions. Nobody can decide it for you. Most here keep saying private listing costly schools.

 

I would have went at a young age because my American school was a f...ning battle ground, first day of school kid dies in front of me, no learning or education going on there.

 

A lot of you guys grew up in a protected society, I had to fight every day for every square inch of ground. 

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This 'education' discussion interests me.  We all know that at the elite level it is dominated by The USA and The UK.

 

Elite level you say, it wasnt but a decade ago that you graduated high school at age 16, the the USA we do not consider that a proper high school education. You missed two years. So you make up two years of high school in college, which makes me believe you basically get an AA degree with your undergraduate degree in the UK.

 

I  believe it was a good think the Filipinos moved to the K-12 system and have implemented it now.  So four more years of education can be directed towards their major.

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Elite level you say, it wasnt but a decade ago that you graduated high school at age 16, the the USA we do not consider that a proper high school education. You missed two years. So you make up two years of high school in college, which makes me believe you basically get an AA degree with your undergraduate degree in the UK.

 

The ability to leave High School at 16 is just an age related Law in the UK.  There is no 'graduation' from High School that I can think of.  You simply leave school at 16 if that is what you choose (which I did).  You can, of course, stay on and get the required 'A' Levels required that would gain you entry into a University.  At that stage you are an undergraduate, because you haven't yet gained graduate status with a Degree.

 

Here in the Philippines there seems to be 'graduations' going on at all ages, and my 12 year old recently graduated, though quite what he graduated from I'm not at all sure.  I have recently put him in University of Cebu (High School) because he gained good marks that indicated to me that he might be somewhat more academic than his 2 brothers.  It remains to be seen, I've given him a year to prove his ability.  The fees for a year are something in the region of 20,000 pesos and of course books, uniform etc are extra.  My fingers are crossed.  He isn't my blood, but he needs a hand up, and he and his siblings need a father figure, since their own father abandoned them many years ago.

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So if Ive paid N.I and taxes for years of my working life and one of my kids was born here, you dont think I should be able to take him/her back to my home country and send him/her to school?? What about white Brit couples that work abroad and have kids whilst there?...Shouldn't their kids be allowed to go to school in the UK on their return?

Anyway.. No choice..Its the law.

Be careful of what you wish for !!!

Check out schools in the area you intend to return to.

Example, primary school in Thanet Kent with 38 kids to the class.

2 teachers because 28 of the kids are from Immigrant families and not English speakers.

Birmingham,Christmas Navity play for a primary school not allowed because Muslim families objected to their kids being subjected to Christian beliefs.

 

Not the type or standard of education I would want for my kids.

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