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throttleplate

an expat friend of mine just broke up with his gf and he has a website which i wont mention but some members have been posting condolances for his breakup, wow feel the love? anyway someone posted this article and i thought it was a good rememder for all the guys in the ph lookin for that special woman, This is an article from 2008 so it may have been posted here anytime since.

 

A note about my friend, when he meets a woman and seems interested in her he asks her and pays for her to get a cenomar about 450php and takes 10 days and what he finds out is alot of the older girls are married even after swearing they arnt. I dont know about asking for a cenomar, feels like he is buying a gun and is waiting for a background check before he can take possesion of it,

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-517821/British-man-facing-jail-adultery-Filipino-woman-asks-Why-wont-Foreign-Office-help-us.html

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
British man facing jail over his 'adultery' with a Filipino woman asks: 'Why won't the Foreign Office help us?'

By ANDREW DRUMMOND

Last updated at 00:23 24 February 2008


When David Scott fell in love with a beautiful Filipino woman, he embraced the opportunity to escape his humdrum existence as a machine operator in Swindon and begin a new life in an exotic land.

But within weeks of leaving his friends and family to join his girlfriend in her native country, his dream of happiness has vanished - to be replaced by a nightmare he could never have anticipated.

After fathering a child with Cynthia Delfino, whose separation from her estranged husband was not complete, the 35-year-old became an unwitting victim of the Philippines' harsh legal system.

He and 29-year-old Cynthia were charged with adultery and thrown into a rat-infested prison for four days.

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Terrified: David and Cynthia must pay her estranged husband £7,000 but have no money

And despite David having spent his life-savings trying to ensure freedom for the couple and their newborn baby, they have now had to go into hiding as the country's police search for them.

If they are caught, David faces seven years in jail and having his daughter taken away from him permanently.

"I can't believe this has happened to me," he said at his hideaway in a squalid suburb of the Philippines capital Manila, after almost two months on the run.

"I have done nothing wrong and yet I have found myself in this horrendous situation. I am begging the British Government to help."

David's ordeal began when Cynthia became pregnant with his child before she had officially separated. Adultery is illegal in the Philippines, where it can incur a seven-year jail sentence.

Now, just weeks after the birth of baby Janina, Cynthia's estranged husband - who is considered the child's legal father in the Philippines - is determined to see the pair imprisoned if they do not pay him £7,000 compensation.

If they are jailed, he will be the one bringing up their baby daughter, a prospect David says breaks his heart. Now only cash, which David and Cynthia do not have, or diplomatic pressure, can save them from jail. However, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office say they cannot interfere with Philippine law.

David said: "Nobody is going to take my daughter away from me. It will be over my dead body. Under British law my daughter is mine. Why can't the Foreign Office help?"

Cynthia, a psychology graduate from Manila's Colegio de San Juan de Letran, met David over the internet in November 2006.

At the time, she had been separated from her husband, Noriel Delfino, for a year and was working as a supervisor at the Emirates Palace Hotel in Abu Dhabi.

David, then living in Swindon, was working on a contract for the Ministry of Defence, cutting armour for use on military vehicles in Iraq.

They began talking on the website Camfrog.com and soon realised their attraction for one another.

"We used a webcam, so I knew how beautiful she was, and from the start we were direct and honest with each other," said David.

"We would spend hours talking about every subject under the sun - we just clicked." Cynthia said: "I was honest with David. I said I was married and had two children, a boy and a girl, but was separated from my husband and we were going through a marriage annulment. Divorce is illegal in the Philippines.

"My husband had ordered me to go to work in the Middle East and every month I sent back just about all my salary, 20,000 pesos (£300), to pay for him and the children.

"But he never told me what he did with the money and it was clear our marriage was not going to work.

"We talked about annulling our marriage and he even sent me an email saying he wanted the annulment to get done as soon as possible."

The couple's first face-to-face meeting took place last February at Manila's Ninoy Aquino International airport, as she flew in from the Middle East and David flew in from London. "Shortly after I met Cynthia, I knew our relationship was going to work," said David.

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Under Philippine law baby Janina Scott does not legally belong to David

"We had a wonderful time in the mountains of Luzon near an extinct volcano at a place called Laguna, but after six weeks I had to rush home when I heard my father was dying.

"But we had already agreed we would both save our money to pay for the annulment and plan our own marriage. Then, out of the blue, Cynthia rang crying to say she was pregnant. I said: 'Why are you crying? That is great news.'

"I was as happy as the happiest expectant dad. I told her to get on with the annulment."

Cynthia said: "My husband agreed on the grounds of 'psychological incapacity', the only grounds for annulment in the Philippines. He even said he wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible."

But then in September at a matrimonial court in Manila, where Cynthia was due to give evidence, lawyers from her husband suddenly withdrew from the case.

"They were preparing charges against me," said Cynthia.

Unknown to the couple, Noriel had discovered a photograph of Cynthia and David they had posted on a website similar to Facebook.

Enraged, he then began proceedings to have them arrested for adultery.

David said: "I rushed out in November with all my savings to be with Cynthia for the last part of her pregnancy.

"Everything seemed to be going wrong but I wanted to be there with my wife when my baby was born.

"Our real nightmare began on December 30 when police and immigration officials raided the house I had rented in the suburb of Caloocan. It was about 10pm and there were all these people outside shouting.

"There were local police, immigration officials and officers of the National Bureau of Investigation, their version of the FBI. We were taken along to the local police station and thrown into a cell. They said they were charging us with adultery and Cynthia's husband was demanding £7,000 in compensation.

"The cell was not big enough to lie down in, so we sat there hunched for three nights and four days.

"It was crawling with cockroaches and other insects, stank of urine and there was my girlfriend eight months pregnant and in great discomfort.

"They wanted to separate us, so we had to pay 500 pesos, about £8, each night to different officers to allow us to be together.

"Every night, though, a different policeman would take it in turns outside our cell flicking the light on and off. We pretended to be asleep.

"They took us out during the day to question Cynthia and get my details and fingerprints. They let us wash from a bucket; Cynthia's relatives brought us soap and toothpaste.

"Eventually, on the fourth day, a lawyer came on the recommendation of the British Embassy, who got us bail.

"The bail was about 12,000 pesos each - £150. But we had to pay 100,000 pesos, £1,250, to somebody under the table to actually get the bail."

The couple were ordered to appear in court on April 12 to hear their fate.

Since then, they have been on the run, fearing that Cynthia's husband was trying to get their bail revoked.

They have moved from shack to rented room in the squalor of suburban Manila as they desperately try to find a solution to their problems.

David's savings have long since run out and the couple are now surviving on charity from friends and family.

Yesterday, David's distraught mother sent her son £100, without which he says they would not be able to afford food.

He said: "We have changed our address twice. I rarely go out. I am the only European here, so if I go out, I stand out like a sore thumb.

"I sit and watch from the window. We have received messages that the police are looking for us, so I am always looking out of the window."

When their daughter was born, the couple's difficult circumstances clouded what was supposed to be a joyful occasion.

"We could not go to one of the big hospitals as they pass on their records quickly to the authorities. Instead, we had to go to a small clinic where Cynthia was the only in-patient.

"It was a harrowing time. Janina was born two weeks early by caesarean section on January 17 and weighed just over 6lb.

"She had an irregular heartbeat which caused us days of worrying. In addition, Cynthia lost so much blood after the operation that she had to have a transfusion. Thankfully, due to the generosity and kindness of some very good-hearted Filipino people, we have been looked after very well since Janina's birth and she is now doing just fine.

"But all our money has gone, to lawyers, to police, to hospital bills and on living expenses. My mum rang me today to say she has just sent me £100.

"That's so unfair. It's me who should be looking after my mum. She is 62 and disabled and gets very little in the way of pension. She has been scraping round friends and relatives.

"I hope one day I can tell my daughter Janina of this nightmare, of what her mum and I went through. But if the full course of Philippines law is followed, Cynthia and I will be in jail and Delfino will have my daughter.

"We have begged the embassy for help. I thought the child of a British father had the right to British citizenship. But the embassy official allocated to my case is Filipino and just quotes Filipino law at me, saying it's not my child."

At this point Cynthia began to cry, saying: "Sometimes I just want to give up fighting.

"I feel so depressed. Let them take me to jail. I have done nothing to be ashamed of. I love David and our daughter."

David's mother Ann has received a letter from Anne Snelgrove, Labour MPfor South Swindon who has promised her 'full support'.

The MP said: "The Nationality Directorate says that the child will automatically have British nationality if David is named on the birth certificate as the child's father."

But she added: "Until this case is settled in the Philippines under their law, there is little we can do to progress the matter."

By that time David and Cynthia expect to be in jail.

Philippines lawyer and women's and children's rights activist Katrina Legarda warned: "I have to tell you the worst first. David Scott is in great danger if he stays here. The fact that he has a baby proves the adultery.

"The baby is not legally his. A child born in a marriage is considered legitimate to the marriage only.

"Legally the baby belongs to her Filipino husband. Frankly put, he does not have a child. He should go home."

Ms Legarda continued: "As it stands, it seems the only way out is for David to pay the husband. No matter how bad the husband might be, even if the couple are separated, the law still applies.

"I know this sounds unfair but this is the law and whenever we try to change it there is an outcry from the religious groups.

"This should not really be happening. We tried over 20 years ago to introduce a divorce law, but those who supported it were condemned in the pulpits of Catholic churches all over the country as people who would go to Hell.

"For David and Cynthia, and others like them, it is a very sad situation."

A Foreign Office spokesman said: "We are aware of the case and are providing consular assistance to Mr Scott and his family, but cannot comment further due to data protection."

 
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throttleplate

it was last covered in 2014, maybe the new to the ph guys will take a look at it and learn a bit. According to the the 2014 posts the guy made it to thailand but can read it for yourself if you click on the link.

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its was last posted in 2014, maybe some new guys in the ph can learn from it. Here is an old update about the man involved.

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 

 

Briton locked up for adultery pleads to bring baby home

By Andrew Drummond for MailOnline
Updated: 22:48 GMT, 20 April 2008

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A British man yesterday told of his dramatic escape from the Philippines with his girlfriend and baby daughter after the couple were threatened with seven years in prison for adultery.

David Scott, 36, is now in Thailand and is petitioning the British government to let the whole family come to the UK.

However, he has been told that because his Filipina girlfriend was still married when their daughter was born, the child is not legally his.

 
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On the run: David Scott with Cynthia Villamor and baby Janina

When Mr Scott met Cynthia Villamor, 29, through an internet chatroom, she was living in Abu Dhabi and had been separated from her husband for three years.

She became pregnant with their daughter, Janina, when he visited her in April last year and she immediately tried to end her marriage.

However, the devoutly Catholic Philippines does not allow divorce and Miss Villamor's husband, Noriel Delfino, withdrew permission for an annulment when he found out his wife was dating a foreigner.

He then demanded £7,000 for 'loss of face'.

When the couple refused to pay up, armed police  -  and Mr Delfino  -  stormed their home in Caloocan, north of the capital Manila.

They spent the New Year in a filthy jail, and had to bribe officials to be granted bail.

Janina was born weeks later and, with Mr Scott facing re-arrest, he decided that the family's only option was to flee the country.

Miss Villamor said: 'It's so good to be free at last, but our future is still uncertain.

'I have to throw myself on the mercy of the British government to be with our baby.'

Mr Scott added: 'Now at last I can fight without my hands tied to bring my daughter home.'

The plasterer, from Swindon, said that when he flew out to see his girlfriend at the end of last year, he was overjoyed at the prospect of becoming a father.

But on December 30, the authorities came after the couple.

'Our house was surrounded and all the police had drawn weapons on us.

'They charged us and put us in a large cell with scores of others. It was filthy and rats would come and go as they pleased.

'Three days later we were eventually offered bail of about £150, but we had to pay over £1,000 under the table just to get it.

'I could see this case was not about right or wrong. It was about who could make money.'

He added: 'As soon as we got out of sight we just ran. We were in contact with the embassy by phone.

'We lived rough in a derelict house and some nights in a banana plantation, cooking over a wood fire.

'We were terrified of being re-arrested.'

Mr Scott's call to the embassy confirmed the seriousness of the case.

Officials told him that even though he was Janina's father, the law said the child belonged to Mr Delfino.

But after Mr Scott took up the case with his MP, Anne Snelgrove, the embassy said that if he could provide DNA tests witnessed by embassy officials, then Janina could obtain British citizenship.

However, this could take eight months and there were only days left before he faced re-arrest.

It was then the couple managed to get on a plane to Bangkok.

Miss Villamor said: 'We did not get out a day too soon. On the day we left we heard at the airport that police had issued another warrant for our arrest because my husband had taken a second case of adultery against us both.'

Today the couple will go to a hospital in Bangkok for DNA tests to prove that Mr Scott is the father of Janina.

Once that is confirmed, they can apply for a British passport for her and Mr Scott hopes that the whole family will one day be able to live together in Britain.

His mother, Anne Scott, 60, said yesterday: 'I'm so glad they are safe now from bullying officials.'

 

 
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Davaoeno

 

 

he has a website

 

it might be instructive for all of us if you posted a link

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Paul

it might be instructive for all of us if you posted a link

 

Or, not.

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it was last covered in 2014, maybe the new to the ph guys will take a look at it and learn a bit. According to the the 2014 posts the guy made it to thailand but can read it for yourself if you click on the link.

 

It was covered last week on the forum, i just cant remember where exactly. 

They managed to go back to the UK soon after she gave birth.

Was the woman in question actually separated from her husband or just working abroad when she met Daveeed? Interesting how the real story can be changed thanks to the press and social media.

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throttleplate

it might be instructive for all of us if you posted a link

i wont do that without the guys permission, actually its a youtube channel my mistake. He puts up videos daily and puts his life out for everyone to see and he has been talked to by the police and mayor about his site to make sure he aint a ya know exploiter of woman on his site but he does many good charity deeds, I will ask him next time i see him. Or as paul said OR NOT.

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This was a Story on the TV Series of  "Banged Up Abroad"  :idontknow:

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This was a Story on the TV Series of  "Banged Up Abroad"   :idontknow:

That's where i saw it.....in the entertainment section of the forum  :)  

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My wife and I met whilst working together onboard a cruise ship, and at the time she was still married to someone else. It put us in a complicated position as the annulment took so long, during which she couldn't get a residency visa for her to come to the UK where I lived. Subsequently, my wife was pregnant before the annulment was completed, creating more complications. The whole annulment process took 2 years, during which time when my missus wasn't visiting me on visit visas, she was hiding in Cebu and flying back to her parents home in Manila for the court hearings. We had to keep our relationship secret on Facebook, even having a child without telling family... All very very complicated. 

 The annulment was stressful because of things such as cancelled court hearings, delays, challenges with lawyers, court hearings where loads of people are given the same time and the court deals with people in a particular order and if they run out of time for the people at the bottom of the list, tough luck. Eventually we were given advice to make a facilitation payment to the correct parties, and all was suddenly completed. 

  Her ex-husband never created any hassle for us, and we don't think he knew about the extent of our relationship at the time, either of us could have ended up in jail for adultery. 

 

 I wouldn't wish this situation on anyone! Absolute nightmare tbh. 

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they have now had to go into hiding as the country's police search for them.

 

This is a bit of an exaggeration. The extent of a PNP search is issuing an arrest warrant and hoping the person is picked up someplace for another crime. They do not actually go looking for you.

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