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Thalcoozyo

If a person has ISP that provides 50 mbps speed:

 

Hardwired from modem to laptop, and the speedtest = 50, this is proof that the ISP is providing the speedy service and the laptop can handle it.

Hardwired from modem to router to laptop, and the speedtest = 50, then this again shows the speedy service is present and the laptom can handle it.

 

Hardwired from modem to router, then wireless from router to laptop, and the speedtest = 16, then what is the problem?

 

The wireless router is Linksys WRT54G2  v.1

Is working fine... I'm just not getting the desired wireless speed that I'd like.

 

Will a person EVER get the same speed via wireless that they get with hardwire?

Or is the router always a chokepoint?

 

Will a new router likely cure my speed problem?

(would be both -g and -n capable)

 

Thanks for constructive feedback.

 

 

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Lost

If you have other wireless routers in the area you will lose speed to interference. I get my full speed using a dual band router.

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Thalcoozyo

If you have other wireless routers in the area you will lose speed to interference. I get my full speed using a dual band router.

 

I live in a neighborhood of homes in which there are a million signals.

 

Are you saying these are the reason for my slow speeds?

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Lost

I live in a neighborhood of homes in which there are a million signals.

 

Are you saying these are the reason for my slow speeds?

I'm no expert, but yes. I doubt many will be using the 5.0 GHz band, so get a dual band router and you will get your full speed I bet. You can download an app called wifi analyzer and see what kind of competition your signal has, and place it on a lonely channel for best results.

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Lost

Not sure we're allowed to post links, but this is what I use:

 

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Archer-C5-Wireless-Gigabit/dp/B00JZFG6QS

 

I lived in an apartment with hundreds of wireless signals and I was barely getting 1/3 of my advertised speed. Switched to an empty 5 ghz channel and getting the same speed as hard wire.

 

I have 50mbps uverse over wifi: 

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miles-high

Sorry to say that your router is, just like many other things, too old for you... :D

You should replace it with a 802.11ac router... minimum 802.11n...

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Thalcoozyo

Sorry to say that your router is, just like many other things, too old for you... :D

You should replace it with a 802.11ac router... minimum 802.11n...

 

Yea... I'm afraid this may be true.  Seems like the new routers are ac dual band.

 

But I also see user reviews which seem to state the 5band sacrafice signal strength/distance.

However, I  ASSUME  the 2.4band will be faster than my current router.

 

Sorta liked the looks of the Linksys WRG1900acs router... until I started reading the reviews on both BestBuy and Amazon.  Looks like this model has some significant bugs and can't seem to work properly. Too many reboots are needed.  I've not NEEDED to restart my current router for YEARS... only when I  think about it and feel "today is a good day to reset it all."

 

The WRG1900acs is iffy... but I wonder about the WRG1200ac model?

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Chas

Unless I missed it you have left out a key bit of information.  What speed will the WiFi card in your laptop support?  No point upgrading the router (yet!) if the WiFi card in your Laptop will not match it.

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Thalcoozyo

Unless I missed it you have left out a key bit of information.  What speed will the WiFi card in your laptop support?  No point upgrading the router (yet!) if the WiFi card in your Laptop will not match it.

 

hmmmm... how can I find out?  I'm sitting here now in front of it.

 

ahhh... is this it?  Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter

 

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Chas

If this is your adapter Qualcomm Atheros 802.11 a/b/g/n Dualband Wireless Network Module then update your router.  If I have googled it correctly your existing Router is max 802.11g 2.4MHz, your laptop is 802.11n and will support 2.4 and 5MHz   I am definitely no expert, but I would always go for a 5MHz channel purely because it has less contention at the moment.  I guess that will change as time goes by.

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fordtech

I found the same answer on my Smart TV. On wireless it was much slower than hardwired. I figured its the wireless card in the TV causing the problem. 

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Woolf

the information I could find for the adapter say it is b/g only

 

what brand model of your laptop ?

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Thalcoozyo

the information I could find for the adapter say it is b/g only

 

what brand model of your laptop ?

 

Toshiba Satellite L305 - an oldie but goodie.  Is serving my needs just fine.

And remember the original issue... is wireless speed thru a router going to equal the same speed as on hardwire.

 

But I do understand the issue of my wireless card... maybe that is the chokepoint.  So maybe someone can knowledgeably tell me?

 

Thank you.

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Woolf

http://www.cnet.com/products/toshiba-satellite-l305-s5955/specs/

 

B/G only

 

http://www.cnet.com/products/toshiba-satellite-l305-s5875/specs/

 

B/G only

 

G is 54 Mb/s max   and you will almost never get 54 Mb/s

 

 

Buying another router will not help you anything

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Paul

Regarding your hardware, here is a neat little utility that, I believe I got from this forum actually. (I don't recall who posted it, originally.)  It gives you detailed information about the hardware in your computer. It's called CPU-Z

 

 

 

 

is wireless speed thru a router going to equal the same speed as on hardwire.

 

It is my understanding that routers distribute bandwidth the following way.

 

Priority bandwidth goes to the LAN ports. Say that you have your laptop connected via LAN cable. Other users in your home, laptop, desktop, phone, tablet, etc., are all connected via WiFi. Your computer will get the lion's share of the bandwidth. Everyone else, connected via WiFi, will split the balance of the bandwidth available. 

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Chas

Toshiba Satellite L305 - an oldie but goodie. Is serving my needs just fine.

And remember the original issue... is wireless speed thru a router going to equal the same speed as on hardwire.

 

But I do understand the issue of my wireless card... maybe that is the chokepoint. So maybe someone can knowledgeably tell me?

 

Thank you.

I have had another look (Google) and I agree with Woolf. Looks as if your router and Wireless card match at 802.11g

 

So to answer your specific query you will not get the WiFi speed to match the hardwired speed with your hardware. If that bothers you then upgrade both the router and the Wireless module in your laptop.

 

Edit - Woolf and Paul posted whilst I was tapping this out on my tablet :-)

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Thalcoozyo

B/G only

 

G is 54 Mb/s max   and you will almost never get 54 Mb/s

 

 

Buying another router will not help you anything

 

OH, I agree with this... yep, b/g only.  No N capabilities.

 

So you are of the opinion that, with my paying for 50 mbps service, that to have my current ping of 13, d/l of 16-18, u/l of 5-6... is about what I'm gonna have to live with?   I'm not really wanting to buy another laptop to achieve higher speeds.

My response posted after the prior replies... I didn't see them, sorry.

 

So thanks for saving me $100-$200 for a new router that I would have pissed & moaned about.  If I'm liimited by my laptop, then I can live with that.  I was concerned that my router was konking out.

 

Thanks

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Woolf

OH, I agree with this... yep, b/g only.  No N capabilities.

 

So you are of the opinion that, with my paying for 50 mbps service, that to have my current ping of 13, d/l of 16-18, u/l of 5-6... is about what I'm gonna have to live with?   I'm not really wanting to buy another laptop to achieve higher speeds.

 

If the laptop is the only unit to access the internet, yes you are paying for a bandwidth that you can not use

 

Well you can hard wire your laptop

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Chas

If the laptop is the only unit to access the internet, yes you are paying for a bandwidth that you can not use

 

Well you can hard wire your laptop

Or get a new router and an upgraded Wireless dongle for a USB port on the laptop? But check with somebody because for all I know you might be constrained by USB port speed.

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Thalcoozyo

Yes, I'll likely begin to use hardwire from router to laptop(s). I have 2 laptops, located conveniently such that I can use hardwire quite easiy.

 

The wireless I'll leave as is... the asawa does her FB, the kid does FB and casual browsing.

 

The kid also does a little online gaming... but very little. He's not griped about the speed so I'll not go there.

 

Thanks again.

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Paul

Just in case my LAN connection ever has an issue.

 

Screenshot 2016-02-15 04.46.03.png

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Thalcoozyo

One final question, if I may... does it hurt to have a laptop hardwired connected  AND leave the wireless card activated at the same time?  Meaning, the laptop is getting fed 2 inputs... hardwire and wireless. 

 

I don't think this is detrimental to the laptop, is it?

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Paul

 

 

One final question, if I may... does it hurt to have a laptop hardwired connected  AND leave the wireless card activated at the same time?  Meaning, the laptop is getting fed 2 inputs... hardwire and wireless. 

 

I must be psychotic, errrr... psychic. 

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Woolf

A little off topic well

 

 

there is a good tool for android phones, that will show wifi routers in the neighborhood

it will show what channels used and you can move your routers channel for less

interference 

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer&hl=en

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