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I think with the Australia Day Celebrations coming up, it might start people questioning whether to attend or not......with these extremists making good with most of their threats, it makes one wonder.....

 

That original link seems to be continually updating so one can get an idea what's going on....

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Seems there is shooting and explosions currently with 4 dead so far......   http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/jakarta-dki-jakarta-id/

Don't change your plans, as the more you worry, the more theses evil scumbags win. Go and enjoy the Australian day celebrations and feck these cowards who think they can win by these methods.

So are these attackers Christians?   They certainly can't be muslim because we all know islam is the religion of peace   So were told anyway

Yes, they are quite common and I am familiar with them. The difference now is that several extremist groups have recently formed an alliance and plan on forming a caliphate in Southeast Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines). Unlike attacks in the past where you had small terrorist groups claiming responsibility, in the future they will be carried out by a much larger and better trained organization operating under and pledging allegiance to the ISIS movement. The two most notorious groups making up this new organization are the Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah. This new alliance, which is now called the Islamic State of the Philippines, is under the leadership of Isnilon Hapilon and is supposedly comprised of four battalions. There was a video released recently which I posted a link to in the "ISIS in the Philippines" thread a few days ago where this group stated that their plan is to establish their own province in Mindanao which would become a training camp and staging area for attacks throughout southeast Asia. Today's attack may or may not be related to this group, but even if it is not, there will likely be more incidents like this occurring throughout southeast Asia, including the Philippines, in the near future.  

 

 

Scary stuff if they are actually allowed to grow an organized foothold in the PI.    The casual  LinC  reader may not know that that PI is a frequent terrorist target, hence I hope I have helped clarify that this not a new game for us.   I am sorta fatalistic about it all.. I mean when its your time...its your time.  

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Scary stuff if they are actually allowed to grow an organized foothold in the PI.    The casual  LinC  reader may not know that that PI is a frequent terrorist target, hence I hope I have helped clarify that this not a new game for us.   I am sorta fatalistic about it all.. I mean when its your time...its your time.  

 

Hopefully the governments of Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines will be proactive and not allow this group to gain a foothold in Southeast Asia. The Philippine government has been downplaying the IS threat in the media as can be seen in the other thread about this subject, but they are attacking these elements in the field never the less. But I am like you, when it's time to go it's time to go. I do not let threats from terrorism or anything else dictate my life or interfere with travel plans. 

 

Here is a story from GMA that just came out that suggests that the IS may have been involved in the attack in Jakarta and also touches on some of what we are talking about here. 

 

 

AFP, PNP appeal for public vigilance after Jakarta terror attack
 
Philippine security forces on Thursday appealed to the public to be "extra vigilant" following the terrorist attacks in Jakarta that left at least four people dead.
 
Without naming a particular group, Armed Forces spokesman Brig. Gen. Restituto Padilla said the police and military "are well aware of the emerging threat and have been conducting operations to prevent terror acts anywhere in the country."
 
"We appeal to the public to be extra vigilant and to help our security forces address the threat," he said a joint statement with the Philippine National Police.
 
"With our collective efforts, we can make a difference in  securing our people from any terror acts," he added.
 
Asked to elaborate on the emerging threat, Padilla said: "That is the increasing brazenness of the BIFF (Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters), the threats coming the ASG (Abu Sayyaf Group) and other terrorist groups. So those existing threats are still part and partial of our emerging threats."
 
In Malacañang, Communications Secretary Herminio Coloma said the government "affirms the call of the AFP and the PNP for our citizens to exercise heightened vigilance in support of our security forces’ concerted efforts to address the threats posed by terror elements."
 
Indonesian President Joko Widodo has described the multiple blasts that hit Jakarta on Thursday morning as "acts of terror."
 
Police said the Islamic State group issued a cryptic warning before multiple blasts hit the Indonesian capital.
 
Several groups in Mindanao, among them the Abu Sayyaf, a loosely organized band of Islamic fundamentalists, have pledged allegiance with the Islamic State, although the military has downplayed this as "propaganda."
 
"The recent pronouncement of [Abu Sayyaf] leader Isnilon Hapilon is part of their propaganda and does not necessarily reflect the existence of an ISIS-directed terror operation in the country," Padilla said in an earlier interview, referring to a video showing Hapilon and Ansar al-Khilafa group leader Abu Sharifa marching with other extremist leaders and pledging allegiance with the Islamic State. —with Kathrina Charmaine Alvarez/KBK, GMA News
 
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I guess the only thing the Philippine government can do is watch ISIS grow in their country and ask them not to hurt anyone. Or they can wipe them out now while it is still small. My wife believes the army could eliminate the Muslim problem, but there is money being made by all parties.

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I guess the only thing the Philippine government can do is watch ISIS grow in their country and ask them not to hurt anyone. Or they can wipe them out now while it is still small. My wife believes the army could eliminate the Muslim problem, but there is money being made by all parties.

 

The government here is doing a pretty good job of staying on top of things so far. Some of the extremist that are in the video they just released last week are already dead. 

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I think with the Australia Day Celebrations coming up, it might start people questioning whether to attend or not......with these extremists making good with most of their threats, it makes one wonder.....

 

 

Don't change your plans, as the more you worry, the more theses evil scumbags win.

Go and enjoy the Australian day celebrations and feck these cowards who think they can win by these methods.

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What?

I think he forgot the :sarcasm: tag

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I went to Tullioz's link , and they had a female Singapore based terrorism expert saying that this was very unusual for this to happen in Jakarta , click , off with that link .... A so called expert saying that ? Where do they find all theses morons for interviews when this shit happens , they must ring around the university's and just get the first twit that will chat on the phone ,

Desperation reporting is just so absolutely annoying , CNN are the worst I might add , by far...

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I went to Tullioz's link , and they had a female Singapore based terrorism expert saying that this was very unusual for this to happen in Jakarta , click , off with that link .... A so called expert saying that ? Where do they find all theses morons for interviews when this shit happens , they must ring around the university's and just get the first twit that will chat on the phone ,

Desperation reporting is just so absolutely annoying , CNN are the worst I might add , by far...

It was Tullioz. He gave a link to a Muslim sympathising broadcast. Al Jazeera is renown for bias. Read about it for yourself. 

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It was Tullioz. He gave a link to a Muslim sympathising broadcast. Al Jazeera is renown for bias. Read about it for yourself.

What a surprise :sarcasm:
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It was Tullioz. He gave a link to a Muslim sympathising broadcast. Al Jazeera is renown for bias. Read about it for yourself. 

What a surprise :sarcasm:

 

I had originally linked to sky news, but then they started covering other stories at the top of the hour. Al Jazeera was the only other English speaking live feed available with continuing coverage. 

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The victims were most likely muslim. MOST victims of ISIS are. Almost everyone fighting ISIS on the ground is muslim.

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The victims were most likely muslim. MOST victims of ISIS are. Almost everyone fighting ISIS on the ground is muslim.

 

According to this article it appears westerners were the targets of this attack. 
 
 
ISIS claims attacks on Indonesian capital
 
JAKARTA, Indonesia (4th Update) – Islamic State (ISIS suicide bombers and gunmen struck the capital of Muslim-majority Indonesia Thursday, January 14, executing a Westerner and blowing up a Starbucks in an assault police said bore the hallmarks of the Paris attacks.
 
The assault on a district packed with malls, embassies and United Nations offices also left an Indonesian man dead and 20 others injured, in what the country's president called "acts of terror".
 
ISIS claimed responsibility, saying that the attack was carried out by "soldiers of the caliphate" who targeted a gathering of citizens from the "crusader coalition," referring to the US-led alliance combating the jihadists.
 
Jakarta police said the attack – which also destroyed a police post – was carried out by a network with links to ISIS in Syria and indicated Indonesian extremist Bahrum Naim, thought to have joined the jihadists, may have been involved in plotting it. 
 
The ISIS attack will send a chill through Indonesia and other parts of Southeast Asia with Muslim populations, where there are fears extremists bloodied on Middle Eastern battlefields could have brought their jihad home.
 
Police said the 5-strong cell that struck Thursday included 3 suicide bombers who initially targeted a Starbucks near a major shopping mall.
 
After the first explosion, men armed with pistols took two foreigners hostage – an Algerian and a man Ottawa said they had been told by Indonesian authorities was a Canadian.
 
National police spokesman Anton Charliyan said the Algerian managed to escape with bullet wounds, but the second man was shot dead on the spot.
 
"Soon afterwards, two men riding... motorbikes, ran into a police post and blew themselves up," he said, adding four officers had been left in a critical condition.
 
"From what we see today, this group is following the pattern of the Paris attacks," he added, referring to a wave of killings on the streets of Paris in November that left 130 people dead.
 
Reloading
 
Witnesses described a gunman emerging from Starbucks, who began firing at bystanders and reloading his weapon as security forces approached, taking cover behind vehicles.
 
"I heard a loud bang, boom. It felt like an earthquake. We all went downstairs," said Ruli Koestaman, 32, who had been in a nearby building when the attack started mid-morning.
 
"We then saw that the Starbucks downstairs was destroyed too. I saw a foreigner -- Westerner, a man -- with a mangled hand but alive.
 
"A Starbucks waiter then ran out with blood coming out of his ear. And I asked anyone hurt inside, he said yes, one. Dead already.
 
"Then everybody gathered and a terrorist appeared. He had a gun and started shooting at us and then at Starbucks. Then the police post... exploded."
 
Graphic photographs from the scene showed the bloodied bodies of what appeared to be two men in civilian clothes lying by the side of a road next to the wrecked police post.
 
Another body, also apparently male, was pictured lying on his back in the centre of the street while a fourth, almost naked, lay nearby.
 
Jakarta police chief Tito Karnavian said bombs containing screws and nails were hurled at police during the shootout, and they found six bombs planted in the area after the hours-long assault ended. (READ: ISIS issued cryptic warning ahead of Jakarta attacks)
 
Starbucks said it was shuttering all branches in the Indonesian capital until further notice "out of an abundance of caution" after the attack.
 
ISIS in Asia
 
The area is home to several embassies, including those of the United States, France and Spain. A number of United Nations agencies are also housed nearby.
 
The UN Environment Program said a married Dutch employee had been seriously hurt in the attacks and remained in a critical condition.
 
Indonesian President Joko Widodo urged people to remain calm.
 
"Our nation and our people should not be afraid, we will not be defeated by these acts of terror," he said, in comments broadcast by MetroTV.
 
"We also condemn the act that has disturbed the security and peace and spread terror among our people."
 
US Secretary of State John Kerry led a wave of global condemnation, saying ISIS was merely inviting "its own destruction".
 
"There is nothing in any act of terror that offers anything but death," Kerry told journalists in London.
 
Indonesia suffered several major bomb attacks by Islamic radicals between 2000 and 2009, including the 2002 strike on the resort island of Bali that killed 202 people. (READ: Timeline: Terrorist attacks in Indonesia)
 
A security crackdown weakened the most dangerous networks, and there had been no major attacks since 2009, when several foreigners were killed in suicide bombing attacks on luxury Jakarta hotels.
 
But the New York-based Soufan Group says that of the 500-700 Indonesians who travelled abroad to join the self-proclaimed caliphate of the IS, scores have since returned.
 
"We know that ISIS has the desire to declare a province in this region," said Kumar Ramakrishna, a counter-terrorism analyst at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.
 
Regional terrorism expert Rohan Gunaratna said the assault bore the hallmarks of ISIS. (READ: Jakarta attacks confirm regional fears over ISIS – analysts)
 
"The only group that has the capability and the intention to mount coordinated, simultaneous attacks in Jakarta is the ISIS network," he said. – Nick Perry and Dessy Sagita, AFP/Rappler.com
 
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