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Terrorism, but used his workplace as the object, based on several facts.

 

1. Who goes home and gets their wife, the mother of your 6 month old child, and goes to to a place and both people shoot up the crowd?

 

2. The home has been described by police as an "IED factory".

 

3. They dropped off the child with its grandmother, not the action taken for a spur of the moment action.

 

4. There are no reports of him having troubles at work, in fact they had just thrown him baby shower.

 

5. There was not enough time between the time he left the party and returned for all the preparations to be made unless they were preplanned.

 

6. They did not make enough money to be able to afford the SUV and all the equipment that they possessed.

Or could've been fanatically pissed off at work to go thru all that, many crackpots out there.

 

I'm as paranoid as anybody about terrorism but sometimes things are as they appear? Guess we'll find out eventually.

 

Could see though maybe they were originally intending to do other things and something happened at work and the guy thought feck it I have this firepower so I'll make them pay.

Names and religions were the facts.. Explosives are the modus operndi. I do not see this as "coincidence" in any way,shape or form. It was planned.

 

How many more "coincidences" will have to occur to open up some eyes ??

Believe me, my eyes are open, I just question things sometimes.
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Or could've been fanatically pissed off at work to go thru all that, many crackpots out there.

 

I'm as paranoid as anybody about terrorism but sometimes things are as they appear? Guess we'll find out eventually.

 

Could see though maybe they were originally intending to do other things and something happened at work and the guy thought feck it I have this firepower so I'll make them pay.

Believe me, my eyes are open, I just question things sometimes.

http://news.yahoo.com/leaving-behind-baby-bombs-couple-sows-panic-california-093715454.html

 

Some family history  :

 

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif./NEW YORK (Reuters) - On Wednesday morning, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, dropped off their six-month-old baby with Farook's mother, saying they were going to a doctor's appointment.

By noon, the couple had donned assault clothing, armed themselves with rifles and stormed a holiday party attended by San Bernardino County employees, killing 14 people and wounding 17 others.

Before sunset, after a shootout with police, they were both dead, leaving a grieving community with few clues to puzzle out the motive for the carnage.

Syed Farook, born in the United States, worked as an environmental health specialist for San Bernardino County, inspecting restaurants for health violations, according to authorities and a website that tracks public employees.

As part of his job, he also inspected public pools at locations including apartment and senior housing complexes and country clubs. Records show him performing these duties as recently as July.

While he appeared not to have profiles on popular social media sites like Facebook and LinkedIn, Farook was registered on at least two online dating sites - one for "Indian matrimonial and dating services," and another described as a "legal marriage service provider in United Arab Emirates."

It was unclear when he had created those profiles.

Co-workers told the Los Angeles Times that Farook, a U.S. citizen, had traveled to Saudi Arabia and returned with his new wife, whom he had met online.

On the iMilap.com site, Farook described himself as a 22-year-old Muslim male living in Riverside, California, who was from a "religious but modern family of 4 - 2 girls, 2 boys" and worked for the county as a health, safety and environmental inspector.

He said he enjoyed working on vintage and modern cars, reading religious books and eating out on occasion.

 

"QUIET, NORMAL GUY"

On Wednesday, Farook attended an annual holiday gathering for employees of his department, then left, only to return later with Malik and weapons.

San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said the shooting spree was clearly planned in advance and that the suspects had left several explosive devices, which appeared to be pipe bombs, at the scene of the massacre.

SueAnn Chapman, a cashier and waitress at China Doll Fast Food, a restaurant that Syed Farook had inspected earlier this year, said he didn't seem unusual.

"He was real quiet," Chapman said. "He checked the food and said he was here because somebody complained. ... He looked completely normal."

Burguan said he did not know whether Farook and Malik were married, but officials with the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) who had been in touch with the family said they were husband and wife.

The couple were married for two years and have a six-month-old baby girl, the executive director of the Los Angeles chapter of CAIR, Hussam Ayloush, told Reuters.

The pair left the infant early Wednesday with Farook's mother in the nearby city of Redlands, Ayloush said, relaying information he had received from a brother-in-law of Farook. The couple told her they were headed to a doctor's appointment for Malik.

Burguan said that police investigating the shooting went to a house in Redlands on Wednesday afternoon, and saw the couple take off in a black SUV. Police pursued the car to San Bernardino, where the gun battle ensued that left Farook and Malik dead.

Farook's family was originally from South Asia, while Malik was believed to be from Pakistan and had lived in Saudi Arabia before coming to the United States, Ayloush said. An older brother of Farook had served in the U.S. military, he said.

Public records suggest possible turbulence in Farook's younger life.

In 2006, Rafia Farook, whom records indicate is Farook's mother, filed in a Riverside court for divorce from her husband, also named Syed Farook.

She listed multiple instances of domestic abuse in the legal filing, and said her husband "threatens to kill himself on a daily basis." During one incident, she said in a court filing, her son came between them "to save me."

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When the next Islamic terrorist event takes place...and it will, I hope they have the decency to leave a note or a video clearly stating " this is an Islamic terrorist attack against you pig American infidels".

 

That way we will know for sure and the media and the politicians won't have to scramble around looking for some other BS to describe the event.

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So what happened here, guy pissed at work or terrorism? Name and religion appears to be a coincidence this time around from what I see.

 

you're joking right?  Not time for jokes buddy....

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When the next Islamic terrorist event takes place...and it will, I hope they have the decency to leave a note or a video clearly stating " this is an Islamic terrorist attack against you pig American infidels".

 

That way we will know for sure and the media and the politicians won't have to scramble around looking for some other BS to describe the event.

 

It wouldn't matter, if they did this, the media and/or the Government would hide it.

you're joking right?  Not time for jokes buddy....

 

He's not joking, he's delusional.

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There were too much planning and preparation here for this to be a spur of the moment event.  There appear to be no problems with his work or co-workers, so workplace motivation does not appear to be a factor in this case.  

 

What does that leave us? 

 

Muslim preppers?  There are lots of people who have joined that movement in the US in recent years and assault weapons, body armor, and pipe bombs are must have items it seems. Even members from the TV show Doomsday Preppers have been arrested for having pipe bombs and other IED's in their possession. There are thousands of people in the US into that kind of stuff and just because most are white Christians doesn't mean people of other races and religions have not gotten into it.

 

When the next Islamic terrorist event takes place...and it will, I hope they have the decency to leave a note or a video clearly stating " this is an Islamic terrorist attack against you pig American infidels". 

 

There is something missing from this story that I am surprised no one here has caught. 

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It wouldn't matter, if they did this, the media and/or the Government would hide it.

 

He's not joking, he's delusional.

It didn't take long for ISIS to see this and acknowledge it in a positive,brotherly way.

 

 Just for discussion purposes,let's say these people weren't your ISIS terrorists types ,but just some plain ol down to earth American Muslims looking to score some street creds with the overseas[and soon to be your neighbors] ISIS.    How is that scenario play for worry when there are so many wannabees in the states looking for that 15 minutes of fame?     Looks to me like the tip of iceberg.   

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Muslim preppers?  There are lots of people who have joined that movement in the US in recent years and assault weapons, body armor, and pipe bombs are must have items it seems. Even members from the TV show Doomsday Preppers have been arrested for having pipe bombs and other IED's in their possession. There are thousands of people in the US into that kind of stuff and just because most are white Christians doesn't mean people of other races and religions have not gotten into it.

 

Sir, you are so sucked into your hype and misinformation your posts amount naught much more than sick jokes.  You are probably the only person on this board who thinks it's normal for people to stockpile IED's and pipe bombs.  I can only surmise it is a reflection of the crowd you hang out with in your daily life.  Sad that.

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Muslim preppers?  There are lots of people who have joined that movement in the US in recent years and assault weapons, body armor, and pipe bombs are must have items it seems. Even members from the TV show Doomsday Preppers have been arrested for having pipe bombs and other IED's in their possession. There are thousands of people in the US into that kind of stuff and just because most are white Christians doesn't mean people of other races and religions have not gotten into it.

But we don't have anything to worry about.the Muslims. right??It's a peaceful religion..   nothing to worry about..  we'l keep an eye on the rest

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RogerDuMond

The controllers for the IEDs were taken from RC vehicles as explained in ISIS magazine.

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Sir, you are so sucked into your hype and misinformation your posts amount naught much more than sick jokes.  You are probably the only person on this board who thinks it's normal for people to stockpile IED's and pipe bombs.  I can only surmise it is a reflection of the crowd you hang out with in your daily life.  Sad that.

 

Where did I say it was normal for people to do this? The fact that there is a national TV show devoted to prepping and countless websites relating to it along with instructions on how to make bombs on many of them, there are apparently a lot of abnormal people in America. Google prepping and pipe bombs together and you will see just how common it is. There was a case in August in my home state where three men were arrested for manufacturing and stockpiling pipe bombs and automatic weapons and now they are claiming that their rights are being violated.  I agree that normal people do not do things like stock pile IEDs, just the same as normal people do not go to Christmas parties to shoot people. . 

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The controllers for the IEDs were taken from RC vehicles as explained in ISIS magazine.

 

It is also explained in many youtube videos as well. You can also just google the subject and find many sources on how to do this. I felt it best not to link directly to one of the pages here in the forum, but they are easy to find. 

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Experts say this has never happened in the U.S.
 
The mass shooting in San Bernardino that killed 14 people and wounded 21 was unique for its male and female pair of attackers, something experts say has never occurred in the U.S.
 
Police have named Syed Farook, 28, and his wife Tashfeen Malik, 27, as the two suspects involved in the shooting at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, Calif., which provides services to people with developmental disabilities. Both were killed by authorities Wednesday.
 
“This is the first time I’ve seen anywhere in the world a public mass shooting attack with a man and a woman that was successful,” said Adam Lankford, a University of Alabama criminal justice professor who studies mass shootings.
 
Dual attackers in a mass shooting are rare because one person can typically pull the more extreme of the two from turning violent, Lankford said. Mass shooters are also almost always men, with estimates showing that 98% of attackers are male. Men tend to be more violent, and studies have shown that a threat to a man’s societal status can trigger violent actions.
 
Still, there have been a handful of mass shootings involving women, the most deadly occurring in 2006 when Jennifer San Marco killed seven people and committed suicide at a postal facility in Goleta, Calif.
 
Profiles of past dual attackers can vary widely. In Columbine, experts largely identified Eric Harris as the likely instigator behind the attack who successfully convinced Dylan Klebold to take part. Similarly, John Allen Muhammad, 42, appeared to have acted as a father figure to Lee Boyd Malvo, 17, throughout the D.C. sniper shootings. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who was sentenced to death for the Boston Marathon bombing, has been portrayed as a follower of his older brother Tamerlan by his defense attorneys, but reporting by the Boston Globe has portrayed him more as a co-equal. It’s still unclear whether the suspects in the San Bernardino attacks were equally responsible for the attacks or whether one pushed the other into acting.
 
“The San Bernardino shooting is very unusual,” said Adam Winkler, a UCLA law professor, citing the husband-wife duo and the fact that they also were parents of an infant. “This couple, with a well-paying job and a six-month-old baby, seemingly had a lot to live for, which is not what we usually see in mass shootings.”

 

 

6. They did not make enough money to be able to afford the SUV and all the equipment that they possessed.

 

They could probably afford the SUV they were driving based on this quote from the article above. At the very least they would have probably qualified for financing. 

 

 “This couple, with a well-paying job and a six-month-old baby, seemingly had a lot to live for, which is not what we usually see in mass shootings.”
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It occurs to me that this couple had to have spent several thousand dollars on .223 and 9mm ammunition alone...not to mention the long guns and pistols. They are newly married, with a young infant, paying on a large SUV and a 300K home. Where did they get the $$$ for this working for the State?

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