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I dont wanna argue or tried to defend coz it doesnt really matter to me if you guys feel comfortable here or not.You got your choices in life,its all up to you to decide. I also wanna give up about referring someone to our family doctors. I am not afraid that you wont be contented,but what i am afraid most is for my doctors to be insulted and embarrassed.

 

If you are here living in my country, you must find ways to get medical treatment at your standard.But i guess it seemed that it cant reach up to your standard.Now,i suggest you better not get ill while your still here.

By the way, i am just curious, what you gonna do if you really get ill here?

 

Eggzactly Pearl, What chu gonna do?

 

Why should we recommend a Doctor when it seems a westerner would only criticize them? It's a set up.

 

You are living in a third world country expecting first world amenities. Then you complain because things do not go according to your custom. Too Bad, look at the bill. You pays your pesos and you takes your chances. At least it's not dollars.

 

I have witnessed my BIL do a simple operation on a fellow using no anesthetic except for a local. The guy didn't cry out, moan or make a peep. Afterward he asked for an aspirin and walked out the door. Some of these people would be ready to fight, or sue.

 

There should be a forum called "Bitch and Moan". Let them post on there all they want.

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Dont forget, a big number of US doctors are increasingly coming from "3rd world countries" like India and the Philippines. Wouldnt it be funny if the Mayor wound up getting a Filipino doctor in the states who has only been out of the Philippines for a year or two.

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Do you really know the answer to this question, Why US doctors are increasingly coming from the "3rd world country" like India and the Philippines?

 

:any-help: Hmmmmm? :sad_01: Maybe people from 3rd wolrd country got the brains but dont have the high technology facilities.

What happened to Westerners, dont they have the intilligence to become a doctor?

Better campaign for the US new generation to make good in the class so the world can provide better doctors.

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My neice died for a congenital illness.She got it, even before she was born.

She was just one month old when she died,coz she got no capacity to dispose or deficate,her intestine did not function,i forgot the real term they were using (heirshsprang) i am not sure with the spelling.We tried our best to save her but it is her time,we dont own our life.

 

Pearl,I am sorry to hear that,my son is born with hirchsprung's diasease too,its called megacolon also,he is born with this disease,he is 9 years old now and in grade two and he is doing well in school.He had undergone 5 major operations,almost died twice,we are looking forward for his last operation hopefully in December.Believe me,his past major operations were under charity case in Northern Mindanao Medical Center(NMMC) here in Cagayan de Oro after his fourth operation I promised to myself that I will do anything just to get him a private and a specialist surgeon on his next operations.I brought him to Cebu with the help of a very kind person and in Cebu Doctor's Hospital we consulted Doctor Maribel Du,one of the best pediatric surgeon and we discussed my son's illness but she suggested that we will bring my son back to CDO and she called the pediatric head surgeon in CDO which happened to be her colleague and they discussed my son's case.So we went back to CDO and had his 5th operation last October 2007 which was very expensive but the surgeon who studied in USA did a great job and I was satisfied with the service.Right now,we are waiting for the last operation of my son.I was thankful my son survived and thankful for that kind man who extended help.

 

Yes you are right,Philippines is blessed with people with brilliant minds but unfortunately this people took their masters outside the country who offers modern technologies and facilities.We have the best and good doctors around,all we do is to find them.

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Do you really know the answer to this question, Why US doctors are increasingly coming from the "3rd world country" like India and the Philippines?

 

:any-help: Hmmmmm? :sad_01: Maybe people from 3rd wolrd country got the brains but dont have the high technology facilities.

What happened to Westerners, dont they have the intilligence to become a doctor?

Better campaign for the US new generation to make good in the class so the world can provide better doctors.

 

Thank you for showing that Filipinos are capable of the same level of bigotry and ignorance shown in the original post in this thread. I feel so much better now that everyone in this thread is swimming in the same cesspool.

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Dont forget, a big number of US doctors are increasingly coming from "3rd world countries" like India and the Philippines. Wouldnt it be funny if the Mayor wound up getting a Filipino doctor in the states who has only been out of the Philippines for a year or two.

 

Do you have something to back up the statement? It's my understanding that there are VERY few foreign doctors entering, but there are a large number of foreign medical students at US medical schools that decide to stay on after their studies are finished and work in the US.

 

In other words, the so called Filipino doctor is in fact a US trained physican, the same as most any other US doctor.

 

Hmmmmm? Maybe people from 3rd wolrd country got the brains but dont have the high technology facilities.

What happened to Westerners, dont they have the intilligence to become a doctor?

Better campaign for the US new generation to make good in the class so the world can provide better doctors.

 

Nothing to do with intelligence....it has to do with people choosing the occupation that gets them the greatest reward.

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Do you have something to back up the statement? It's my understanding that there are VERY few foreign doctors entering, but there are a large number of foreign medical students at US medical schools that decide to stay on after their studies are finished and work in the US

 

It was a true joke that in the 70 and early 80's more Filipino doctors were admitted to the American Medical Association than American doctors. Since then there has been a quota put in place to keep the numbers down.

 

All you have to do is look around the streets of America. Kids of all races strutting around with their pants down around their knees..."keepin it REAL". Which is a code for drugged and dumb. They don't have the intelligence or discipline to finish high school, let alone go to college.

 

If it wasn't for quotas there would even be more foreign students studying here and staying on after graduation.

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When I left the US I would guestimate that foreign doctors were increasing rapidly and have been for years. Indians comprising the biggest segment, there are 40,000+.

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I have no issues, zero, in going to Chong Hua or Cebu Doc, for overnight stay, if necessary.

 

I have no issues in dealing with many of the very capable doctors I have met in Cebu, as well as in other areas of the Philippines.

While anyone who knows me, knows I have been critical of Manila in the past, but they offer some A1 hospitals there.

 

EDIT: I have found all but one doctor, to have a good bedside manner, to be fine to deal with, and to not over charge me. I can personally say that I have negotiated prices with them in the past, even at Filipino rates!

 

If people have too many issues in adapting here, perhaps it is time to consider going elsewhere to live.

 

The above statement is a general statement, not directed toward anyone here. So, I don't want to see anyone crying after reading my post.

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I live in the US in an upscale neighboorhood. It's one of those areas where doctors fight for positions since they can charge more. I hate to disillusion those of you on this board who feel otherwise, but I've had a graduate of Johns Hopkins prescribe medicine for me that I had advesrse reactions reactions to. His solution? I should go sit in the emergency room for 24 hours. Sevral thousand dollars poorer, I finally got disgusted and went home. This has happened on more than one occasion. MY cheapest visit for any kind of emergency treament cost over a thousand dollars. It consisted of a few xrays and an improperly applied splint (according to the specialist I later had to contact the fracture should have had a different kind of splint). My point is, medical treatment here in the US is only as good as your doctor. Sadly, many of the doctors and hospitals here in the US will order scores of tests you don't need, require you go to the emergency room when it isnt necessary and charge you thousands of US$ dollars for the privilege. If you haven't been to the US recently, the cost of treatment has sky rocketed to the point where only american with excellent medical insurance can afford it.

 

I was once treated by a Mexican doctor who practiced in a small town in southern Mexico. Before treatment, I had a chronic rpoblem with hemrhoids. The docotor was a friend of an inlaw. The treatment cost me virtually nothing and I've never had a problem since that day.

 

If you're going to live in a third world copuntry, find a good doctor BEFORE you get sick and establish a relationship. In third world countries, especially asia, relationships are everything. Long time Philippine residents should have figured this out by now.

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If you're going to live in a third world copuntry, find a good doctor BEFORE you get sick and establish a relationship. In third world countries, especially asia, relationships are everything. Long time Philippine residents should have figured this out by now.
Excellent advice Kaku... :rolleyes:

 

Or if it so hard then you better do this,

 

If people have too many issues in adapting here, perhaps it is time to consider going elsewhere to live.

 

 

After all the Philippines is just a tiny dot of this whole wide world!

 

As a Filipino I salute the Filipino doctors serving in the Philippines most specially in the rural areas.!

Peguin, I understand your predicament, please try to look and ask around a good doctor for your family, he/she is just around waiting!

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Well my recent experience:

 

My SO went to the Sacred Heart Hospital with vomiting at 0400hrs yesterday.

 

No other symptoms( probably viral illness)

 

Underwent two blood tests and two injections, then "held" overnight. When I spoke to her early afternoon she ad been placed in a medical ward but sounded fine, Blood pressure good and pushng out tons of urine (therefore not dehydrated).

 

I told her to go home and rest ' I cant the Doctors left for the day" . I was concerned that this was a revenue raising exercise on behalf of the hospital.

 

Here in Australia you would get 4-6 hrs in the emergency department and 2-3 litres of fluid, and tests of your electrolytes, urine and blood count to check for signs of infection.

 

Today I am sending money for her to be released the bill 11000 pesos but she got a student reduction.

 

I am not impressed.....................

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Well my recent experience:

 

My SO went to the Sacred Heart Hospital with vomiting at 0400hrs yesterday.

 

No other symptoms( probably viral illness)

 

Underwent two blood tests and two injections, then "held" overnight. When I spoke to her early afternoon she ad been placed in a medical ward but sounded fine, Blood pressure good and pushng out tons of urine (therefore not dehydrated).

 

I told her to go home and rest ' I cant the Doctors left for the day" . I was concerned that this was a revenue raising exercise on behalf of the hospital.

 

Here in Australia you would get 4-6 hrs in the emergency department and 2-3 litres of fluid, and tests of your electrolytes, urine and blood count to check for signs of infection.

 

Today I am sending money for her to be released the bill 11000 pesos but she got a student reduction.

 

I am not impressed.....................

Hi Ricbak,

I am an Australian too and I came here to live late last year.

 

I know the quality of Australian hospitals and can vouch personally for their high standards of service and care to both myself and other mambers of my family. If the situation was reversed and I had a relative in hospital there, I would probably react initially the same way as you.

 

But your knowledge of the situation is second hand - hearsay evedence, which is rightly not allowed in court proceedings - from someone you love and care a lot about but who has little or no medical education and is probably feeling pretty sick and also lonely.

 

Please don't JUDGE everything and everyone here on the basis of secondhand and emotionally biased information. As Paul said there are many good doctors here whose main purpose is simply to heal the sick. I also would trust my life in their hands and have had only positive experiences.

 

This is not a criticism of your situation rather a comment on what seems to be a feature of this thread which is totally illogical - "I have had a bad experience with Filipino doctors therefore ALL Filipino doctors must be bad".

 

I hope your SO is on the mend and if there is anything any of us can do for you on the ground here in Cebu, please let us know.

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When I left the US I would guestimate that foreign doctors were increasing rapidly and have been for years. Indians comprising the biggest segment, there are 40,000+.

 

Well, Bob, the question raised was whether those are doctors who studied abroad and were entering on work visas or if they were doctors who studied in the US and stayed after they completed their trainings. Never disputed the fact that there are foreign born doctors in the US, just whether they were trained in the Philippines, India, or the US.

 

Who would you trust more, an Indian doctor who studied at the best medical school in the US, or an American who studied at the best medical school in India?

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This is not a criticism of your situation rather a comment on what seems to be a feature of this thread which is totally illogical - "I have had a bad experience with Filipino doctors therefore ALL Filipino doctors must be bad".

 

Well, if you got an apple, and you take a bite, and it's rotten, do you need to keep taking bites of it to see if it completely rotten? What if you take 5 bites from different parts of the apple and every bite is rotten, would you say the apple is rotten? Or would you need to eat the whole apple to know whether or not the apple is rotten?

 

Long story to one of posts earlier about a visit to one of the Cebu Doctor's Hospitals, the Dengue fever diagnosis that turned into a Typhoid Fever diagnosis turned into a nothing diagnosis...it turns out it was just the flu.

 

And it only turned into a nothing diagnosis when the insurance company hassled the hospital about more blood tests. :P

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Well, if you got an apple, and you take a bite, and it's rotten, do you need to keep taking bites of it to see if it completely rotten? What if you take 5 bites from different parts of the apple and every bite is rotten, would you say the apple is rotten? Or would you need to eat the whole apple to know whether or not the apple is rotten?

 

Bad allegory. There's a BARREL of apples, not one apple. You find the good apples.

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