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JayT

Shortly after the news broke about the two Canadians and the Norwegian being taken off a yacht in Palawan and taken 'express' to  Mindanao by the goon squad for 'processing' something really strange happened locally.

 

A group of people who said 'we are from the Government' came to our place (in an out of the way provincial area of Neg. Oriental.) asking if any foreigners lived here. If so, then please give us all the details so we can register them as living at this address for 'security' reasons.

 

Of course no one in my rather large group of extended filipino family asked for their government ID or anything remotely close to this but at least one of them said 'not living here, just visiting'. Then raced inside to tell me about these mysterious visitors. 

 

Unless someone can tell me otherwise it looks like a scam.

 

Has anyone else been asked by 'government officials' visiting your house to register all foreigners living there?

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colemanlee

Its a SCAM

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liquido

Casing for a robbery?

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AussieLex

Casing for a kidnapping maybe... i heard a couple of weeks or so ago that there was some security concern with a kidnapping gang supposed to be in the Dumaguete area ...  I think I read that in the SunStar ... and both the police and army commented regarding received intelligence ...

 

As foreigners we already Register as Aliens don't we... the ARP program ...

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Jawny

I believe some members have said they knew of a requirement to have foreign residents "register" with the barangay. It may very well be that there is some sort of requirement.

 

I have lived here for many years and have never "registered" with my barangay.

 

Of course, that has little meaning in reality. Every foreigner in this area is well known to the local residents. So it would not take any sort of Sherlock Holmes effort to find the foreigners.

 

As far as being a scam, I don't know what is gained by asking except to target the home for a robbery. That is the most common purpose in our area. It is common for itinerant salespeople to wander through the community, supposedly to sell some sort of stuff. In reality, they are scoping out homes for potential break ins.

 

I have seen NPA "troops" walk by our home and they wave as they pass. I'm pretty sure they can figure out who the foreigners are in the area.

 

Once in a while, some people come around asking to see the gasul tanks. We never show them, thought they have some sort of ID which appears to be official from the nearby city. In fact, they are sales people wanting to sell a device used to prevent gasul leaks. They pretend to be government officials to gain access.

 

We never allow strangers in to the home. Even have had the PNP here sometimes as well as court officials, and none were allowed inside. Out of sight, out of mind.

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JayT

Casing for a robbery?

 

Explains why I have to be escorted everywhere by a family member :) apparently I will get mugged, robbed, bashed and worse.....because I am white.

 

In saying this I have never felt unsafe or feared for anything since I have been here. The times I go into town by myself to do shopping, banking etc I take the pedicab express in and express home.

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JayT

I believe some members have said they knew of a requirement to have foreign residents "register" with the barangay. It may very well be that there is some sort of requirement.

 

I have lived here for many years and have never "registered" with my barangay.

 

Of course, that has little meaning in reality. Every foreigner in this area is well known to the local residents. So it would not take any sort of Sherlock Holmes effort to find the foreigners.

 

 

The Barangay Captain has his own pedicab and driver. It is an open air pedicab and its always hillarious when it drives past, the only thing missing from the front of the pedicab is a Rolls Royce grill front or a Mercedes Benz badge. It is very vice regal indeed.

 

And your right about everyone knowing where the foreigners are. All the neighbours know us, the whole village knows us. 

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TDCNINJA

Actually that so you dont meet another woman, or give any of your money to anybody but them

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Exactly, treat the foreigner like a 3 year old incapable of independent decision making. 

 

In my own experience, I told them in the first 15 minutes that I would do as I please. Should have seen the looks.

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angbumabasa

First, here the PNP wanted to know all foreigners living here, and provide documentation to them. I believe this had more to do with Yolanda. 'Here' is S. Leyte.

 

Second, it's census time. 

 

Third, a scam is being copied all over with folks scoping out residences for robberies and such. Was on ABS-CBN and GMA7 news recently.

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JayT

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Exactly, treat the foreigner like a 3 year old incapable of independent decision making. 

 

In my own experience, I told them in the first 15 minutes that I would do as I please. Should have seen the looks.

 

I tried that.... nearly started WW3. 

 

Didn't matter that I had 12 years in the Military including multiple deployments to war zones. I think Northern Ireland, Kosovo, Sierra Leone and Iraq (Op Telic 1 & 2) were far more dangerous than this place could ever be..... 

 

The excuse I keep getting is "this is the Philippines, its dangerous because your white". This precludes me from doing what I want when I want even if I have the cash to do it.

 

Last time I got that excuse I threatened to go back to Australia and never come back because it is 'that' dangerous. DIdn't work for me either lol

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to_dave007

Actually that so you dont meet another woman, or give any of your money to anybody but them

 

Agree.. I think Filipina's have an unwritten rule about foreigners..  "Possession is nine tenths of the law".  

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colemanlee

 

 

Didn't matter that I had 12 years in the Military including multiple deployments to war zones. I think Northern Ireland, Kosovo, Sierra Leone and Iraq (Op Telic 1 & 2) were far more dangerous than this place could ever be..... 

 

22 years in the USMC, first gf did the same thing, when I finally told them to let me do what I wanted to do, she resorted to having me followed...lasted about eight months...ended badly....advice to OP, find somebody else, they are out there

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musicman666

I never bother responding to these requests from the local barangauy unless I can hear of one valid reason to do so.

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hyaku

First, here the PNP wanted to know all foreigners living here, and provide documentation to them. I believe this had more to do with Yolanda. 'Here' is S. Leyte.

 

Second, it's census time. 

 

Third, a scam is being copied all over with folks scoping out residences for robberies and such. Was on ABS-CBN and GMA7 news recently.

The first one is maybe connecting with this. http://www.philstar.com/cebu-news/2014/06/28/1340018/police-establish-foreigners-network-cebu

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spydoo

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Once in a while, some people come around asking to see the gasul tanks. We never show them, thought they have some sort of ID which appears to be official from the nearby city. In fact, they are sales people wanting to sell a device used to prevent gasul leaks. They pretend to be government officials to gain access...

They'll have everything in pieces and tell you there's a part that has been recalled or isn't within regulations and could cause an explosion, which they can fix for a fee. Your filipina will believe them. Then she'll get embarrassed when you make the scammers put it back together and get out.

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colemanlee

Exactly that happened to me with my X, got home and a bunch of what looked like college kids were in the house taking my range and bottle apart, asked them what they were doing and they came up with some lame excuse, told them to stop, put it back and get the hell out...wanted something like 1400 for some gismo....X thought I was rude.....

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hilyfe

Get you ass out of there right now

Dont wait for tomorrow right now

 

Stupid people why they didnt ask for id

 

Goverment could careless where you live no matter if your foreign of not

The best answer to give in philippines if its in regard of a person

 

 

I DO NOT KNOW

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rainymike

Good advice not to let strangers onto your property. My partner enforces that with our helpers who were the weak link and used to let anyone in who could spin a good tale. Now the rule is no one walks through the gate until my partner or I gives the green light.

 

This applies to foreigners, the Pope, or Jollibee as well. And even if they have ID's, unless I've called the electric company, phone company, etc. for some home service, the door remains locked and wait until the owners come home and they'll answer your questions.

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JayT

Get you ass out of there right now

Dont wait for tomorrow right now

 

Stupid people why they didnt ask for id

 

Goverment could careless where you live no matter if your foreign of not

The best answer to give in philippines if its in regard of a person

 

 

I DO NOT KNOW

 

We left for Australia not long after this happened.

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JayT

 

When I first read this I thought it was a community based program for disaster management making sure every one was accounted for but looks like the PNP taking more than a casual interest in foreigners living or staying in the Philippines.

 

It makes me cringe every time you read about some foreigner being arrested or locked up for an offence because inevitably it gives us all a bad wrap. Doesn't matter what nationality these people are they are just bad people who deserve what they get.

 

You know the saying: You reap what you sow.

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JamesMusslewhite

In the seven years I have lived in North Mindanao, only once has an official or representative of the US government or US Embassy ever travel to here. That was over six years ago when an American and his wife where arrested here and claimed he was part of the Obama Administration, they left and his butt stayed in lockup. Surigao is one of the safest areas in Mindanao, and this pretty much proves they do not want to step foot on the big island or in any other potential hot spot.

 

I receive regular emails from the US Embassy Warden system and if they wanted expats and visitors to register they would certainly as policy do so through email. They are not going to put themselves in any situation where they can become a potential target. There are no heroes working at the embassy, just arrogant self-serving chair-polishing desk-rat bureaucrats.

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JamesMusslewhite
 

 

I hit 'quote' instead of 'edit' button, sorry, just a 'Brain fart'.... :paul:

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SkyMan

 

 

Doesn't matter what nationality these people are they are just bad people who deserve what they get.   You know the saying: You reap what you sow.
Wow, so no trial or anything, just hang 'em

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JamesMusslewhite

Wow, so no trial or anything, just hang 'em

 

 

No, a bullet in the head on the spot. Why should they be afforded better treatment, better than their hostages. Strike terror into a terrorist, and make it so dangerous to support, harbor, or even be near a terrorist that they become shunned by their own. Then relentlessly hound them, hunt them and pound them into just bad memories. This is the only way it will stop. To think otherwise show a weakness in ones intellect.

 

These are not freedom fighters, they are thugs murdering and beheading unarmed defenseless citizens and stealing the lives of other merely for money. Stop the money and then kill them all. That is how you stop it. .

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