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I saw my neighbor coming up the street on his motorbike along with his daughter and his wife in the back. His wife was holding on to the bike with one hand and her other hand holding an INFANT high above the heads of the others as if holding a fecking roman candle! Christ doesn't anybody care when they see something like this? I know it's common here in the Philippines to see 4 or 5 people riding on the same bike, most of the time 2 or 3 small children at the same time! I wish they had CPS here because in the civilized world and I do mean that, it is a serious case of child endangerment. I could not believe seeing her holding this tiny baby on a moving motorbike with multiple people on it and the thing is it isn't even her baby, she is the nanny of some renting couple who are at work 12 hours a day. Had I seen this as one of that baby's parents I don't know what I would have done. I definately know what the hell I would say to all of them though! It really fricken burns me up when I see something like that. Had they have been in states they would all be in jail and the baby in child custody. BUT! Things don't work that way here and it seems outside of the Metropolis of Manila nobody gives a damn or even gives it a second thought that something is very wrong with this. Goddamn it!!!

 

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On 9/15/2015 at 6:45 AM, heyjoe60 said:
it seems outside of the Metropolis of Manila nobody gives a damn

I didn't know there were so many good law-abiding folks in Manila.

 

On 9/15/2015 at 6:45 AM, heyjoe60 said:
Goddamn it!!! 

I sense some anger here. Maybe Philippines isn't the place for you...?

 

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I saw my neighbor coming up the street on his motorbike along with his daughter and his wife in the back. His wife was holding on to the bike with one hand and her other hand holding an INFANT high above the heads of the others as if holding a fecking roman candle! Christ doesn't anybody care when they see something like this? I know it's common here in the Philippines to see 4 or 5 people riding on the same bike, most of the time 2 or 3 small children at the same time! I wish they had CPS here because in the civilized world and I do mean that, it is a serious case of child endangerment. I could not believe seeing her holding this tiny baby on a moving motorbike with multiple people on it and the thing is it isn't even her baby, she is the nanny of some renting couple who are at work 12 hours a day. Had I seen this as one of that baby's parents I don't know what I would have done. I definately know what the hell I would say to all of them though! It really fricken burns me up when I see something like that. Had they have been in states they would all be in jail and the baby in child custody. BUT! Things don't work that way here and it seems outside of the Metropolis of Manila nobody gives a damn or even gives it a second thought that something is very wrong with this. Goddamn it!!!

the real problem starts when and not if but when they have a wreck and as luck would be against you ... YOUR within 30 meters of the bike and everyone screams its the foreigner fault

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On 9/15/2015 at 7:07 AM, arentol said:

I didn't know there were so many good law-abiding folks in Manila.

I sense some anger here. Maybe Philippines isn't the place for you...?

Aren

No, its just that you can't do crap about something like that is what pisses me off.

On 9/15/2015 at 7:08 AM, smokey said:

the real problem starts when and not if but when they have a wreck and as luck would be against you ... YOUR within 30 meters of the bike and everyone screams its the foreigner fault

It would be my fault from 3 stories up looking down? ok....

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SkyMan
the real problem starts when and not if but when they have a wreck 

Quite probably most of the population were on a scooter under the age of 2 at one time or perhaps often.   Doesn't seem to be slowing the growth down much.

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Jawny

I can understand your feelings, but this is not at all uncommon. When I see this, it is upsetting. However, there's nothing that you will able to do to change this sort of behavior.

Where I live, I see toddlers, just barely walking, alongside the national highway, using the road shoulder as a play area. Most of time there is an adult or older child close by, but completely inattentive.

As to child protective services, (helps if you spell out these unfamiliar acronyms) there is a similar government agency, the Department of Social Welfare and Development, DSWD. Useless and bureaucratic. I would advise you to NOT get involved in reporting instances like this.

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heyjoe60

I can understand your feelings, but this is not at all uncommon. When I see this, it is upsetting. However, there's nothing that you will able to do to change this sort of behavior.

 

Where I live, I see toddlers, just barely walking, alongside the national highway, using the road shoulder as a play area. Most of time there is an adult or older child close by, but completely inattentive.

 

As to child protective services, (helps if you spell out these unfamiliar acronyms) there is a similar government agency, the Department of Social Welfare and Development, DSWD. Useless and bureaucratic. I would advise you to NOT get involved in reporting instances like this.

I would advise you to NOT get involved in reporting instances like this.

I won't. As upsetting as it is I'll just remind myself where I am and turn the other way and just accept it as it's how it is here. End of matter.

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Lee

If you are that concerned for the baby, then take a picture and find a way to get it to the parents without anyone knowing you were the one who sent it, if the parents end up not caring, then you probably shouldn't either but I suspect the yaya will be history once they find out. 

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Jester

When I am in the PI's I think this is not right, that is not right.  OMG look at that, somebody should do something about that, why doesn't the Gov fix this or that. What the freak is wrong with these people and this country?

 

There is nothing wrong with the PI's, it is me.                            Maybe it is you?               Jester

 

PS  If you really want to get your ass in a jam, stick your nose where it does not belong in the PI's         

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Salty Dog

Or you could just be a heartless bastard and not give a damn. Consider it natural selection.

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Headshot

If you want, you can take pictures of them on their motorbike, but you should be VERY careful about how you handle it. If the yaya finds out it was you who got her fired, she will have you killed or framed for something far more serious.

I have often thought there should be an online "parenting wall of shame" for posting pictures of parents and other caregivers putting children at risk. In my neighborhood. there are often small children out on a road that is used by heavy trucks and motorbike going like bats out of hell. Parents who let their small children roam freely like that are no better than those who carry their small children and babies in dangerous positions on motorbikes.

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rizla

It's a progression, at first babies were carried in a sling on mums back, next the family all rode on the back of a mule/ water buffalo etc, then motorised transport came into being, so the natural move was for the family to use that, as the country develops, so will their understanding of new dangers. It will change, just not in a few days/months/years.

 

It can be very hard to look at a third world, underdeveloped country with the eyes of a first world very developed country, without screaming out in horror and dismay at what we perceive as abuse.

 

In my honest opinion, if it affects someone so much, then perhaps they should stay in the first world. Understanding a culture that appears on the outside to be so uncaring, is often far from the reality, within their own community, we, as westerners just cannot comprehend that.

 

And no I am not condoning the stupidity of carrying too many or babies on motorcycles, it happens all over China too. 

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Davaoeno

 

 

If the yaya finds out it was you who got her fired, she will have you killed or framed for something far more serious.

 

 

Wow !!!   and this advice is on a public forum ??   

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senseless

I didn't know there were so many good law-abiding folks in Manila.

 

 

 

 

I sense some anger here. Maybe Philippines isn't the place for you...?

 

 

Aren

 

 

Sure there is still a lot of crime. But after 6 years in cebu and 4 years in manila. I think I'm qualified to say It's been a lot better than cebu.

 

Regarding the anger -- It's true -- you either need to accept the stupidity of the people or go insane. There is no middle ground there.

 

If one would ask the lady about the child situation -- it was all completely justified in her head in one way or another. To her, she did nothing wrong. And it's one reason I will never have a nanny. I'm amazed at how common it is here to have nannies. All you need is a washing machine for clothes and dish washer -- then there is plenty of time to spend with your kid. Plus, a washing machine and dish washer are cheaper than hiring a person to do it in the long run (not to mention, harder working and more reliable).

 

Regarding CPS --

 

The conditions of CPS here would be more intolerable than anywhere else in the world.... More like prisons for children who have done nothing wrong except had the misfortune of being born here... I could imagine a lot of cases of children going missing / killed, forced prostitution, and slavery just to name a few... Group homes would turn into a breeding ground for criminal syndicates.

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USMC-Retired

It's none of our business. Maybe so but then many would try and turn over kids for a better life out of poverty.

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