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Birth certificate advice for fiancee in getting her first Philippines passport

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Nangulo

You can always go to a different DFA.  I doubt they're jurisdictional.  Start the process over with current information but a new set of bureaucrats.  Left and right hands do not always talk.  

 

Butuan has a very nice office with a lady whose sole job it is to help people with the paperwork requirements.

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johnboy999

Might be worth a try ...... I'm guessing they have one in Dumaguete which is easy enough for her to get to.....

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Jawny

I can't be certain of this, but I would be surprised if the first DFA you went to have any record of the application process. Meaning, you should be able to apply elsewhere. In effect, armed with the knowledge you now have, start over.

 

My wife and children recently renewed passports. For one child, it was a first time passport. She presented all documents, had them reviewed and was told to bring a copy of my passport. This was one detail we had not anticipated and needed to leave and come back another time. The DFA handed her all the application papers with instructions to return with a copy of my passport.

 

She did just that. However, nothing prevented us from going to another DFA office to process the first time application.

 

 

As well, we have heard of the NSO making a correction to their illegible copies. When the NSO document is illegible, an original (legible) copy is brought to the NSO and corrections are made based upon the actual document. It makes sense, since the manner in which the NSO makes their official copies leads to these sort of illegible copies. In effect, poor quality control at the time they produce the NSO documents. (Who would have thought that was possible?)

 

I have also used relatives to obtain NSO documents just to avoid the hassle of standing in line. Perhaps the Zamboanga trip can be made by someone else?

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hyaku

I think you will find a paper from the the municipal to get documents annotated is required. Then the Municipal will give letter to the NSO. I went through this process for a misspelt name and waited 18 months! What municipal is the mothers marriage registered at? Maybe it would be easier to get a copy of the mothers marriage certificate.

 

NSO can make it easy or very difficult. One person I know waited for annotations on a marriage certificate. Another one they said because her name on the marriage cert was different to her real name? She was never married.

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NOSOCALPINOY

It's probably just best to reapply at a different DFA. On the Philippine passport application there is no mention of requiring to submit her parents birth certificate. Just have her use the NSO birth certificate she has with what name is already on the certificate.

First-time Applicants

http://www.dfa.gov.ph/consular-services/passport-information/passport-requirements

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Headshot

Here's the deal. DFA is throwing up roadblocks because you gave them two documents with the mother's name spelled differently. Getting more documents (that will also have discrepancies in the mother's name) is not the answer. The answer is to only take to DFA the documents required for the application (on their website), and make damn sure the spelling is consistent throughout. If you need to go to a different DFA office to do this, then do that.

 

Here is a list of the DFA offices. 

 

http://www.philippinecountry.com/DFA.html

 

There is no office in Dumaguete. There is an office in Bacolod and one in Tacloban in addition to the one in Cebu. Since she has family on Leyte (if I understood right), then maybe Tacloban would be best, since they will wonder why she isn't going to the office in Cebu (where she lives)...or...she could just wait a month and start the process over again in Cebu. With the numbers they process, it isn't likely they will remember her. To make it easier on her, have her use an agency, such as Destination Specialists (or most any large travel agency). They will express her through the process. It will cost maybe up to a thousand pesos to have an agency shepherd her through the process, but it is well worth it. A good agency will check the paperwork to make sure there are no errors before it is submitted.

 

http://destinationcebu.com/other-services/

 

There is a list of the passport requirements in a link on this web page.

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johnboy999

In fact, Headshot, we already used Destination Specialists for this process so far. I agree with many of the other posters here that maybe going to a different DFA is the solution.

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Daisy

In fact, Headshot, we already used Destination Specialists for this process so far. I agree with many of the other posters here that maybe going to a different DFA is the solution.

 

ALL DFA offices will practically ask the same requirement.

You said that you have already obtained a copy of her BC but DFA did not accept it because it is somewhat blurry. Then another thing is the correction of spelling right?  I wonder your GF has no information regarding some basic details of her parents but it's besides the point.  From the blurry page/s of her BC, she got get some of her parents basic details and get a delayed registration. Correction of name although court will no longer be needed but it will take more time, the most is 6 months to one year provided one has some contact in LCR and NSO and even longer. The best option will be delayed registration if her name is unreadable in her BC.

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smokey

In most cases, it's easy to obtain a birth certificate, but the difficult part is trying to correct any typographical errors that's already in the birth certificate.

 Since the mother has an obvious typographical error in her birth certificate, Republic Act No. 10172, now allows the administrative correction of certain entries with the Civil Register, including entries in the birth certificate without having to go to court to resolve/correct the error in one's birth certificate depending what is allowed under this Republic Act 10172.

I myself have errors in my own NSO birth certificate and I will eventually go through this process under this RA10172 either by doing it myself or by hiring a reputable local attorney. Fortunately I'm in no hurry to do it yet. "Knock on wood"! 

Hope this info will also work for your fiancee.

 

http://ndvlaw.com/how-to-correct-errors-in-your-birth-certificate-without-going-to-court/

 

https://psa.gov.ph/civilregistration/civil-registration-laws/republic-act-no-10172-implementing-rules-and-regulations

 

Here's the original RA 9048 that was amended by RA10172

https://psa.gov.ph/civilregistration/civil-registration-laws/republic-act-no-9048

 

https://psa.gov.ph/civilregistration/problems-and-solutions/wrong-spelling-1

and how is HE going to correct the mothers BC without the mothers permission ?   he is in need of help for sure

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Tisay

I've tried searching the forums but can't find the answers to the questions I have, so hopefully someone might know the solution to my/our problem.

 

We are in the process of applying for a passport for my fiancee so she can come and live with me in the UK. We were living in Cebu for a number of years, but after getting seriously scammed/ripped off by her dad (another story which doesn't need to be covered here!) I had to return to the UK for work, as I'm too young to retire. We've been going through all the various steps in order to get her passport, but there just seem to be so many obstacles put in the way. It amazes me that so many Filipinos have actually managed to get passports!

 

We needed to get her birth certificate from the NSO in Manila, which took months to get, but has been rejected by the DFA as it's not 100% legible, so they've requested a notarized copy of her local certificate from Carcar. After another month or two, we finally received that, only to find upon presentation to the DFA that there was a typo in her mother's surname with 2 letters in the wrong order (they put Baclaso instead of Bacalso). So, this has also been rejected. In order to get this correction made, we have been told that she will need to get her mother's birth certificate, but of course, owing to , shall we say, a "poor" relationship with her parents now, that's not an option.

 

So, we've reached a brick wall at the moment. Does anyone have any advice on how we can get this resolved?

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance we can get

Hi John,

 

The requirements to get a passport are 1. Personal appearance 2. Complete application form 3. Gf's birth certificate 4. 2 valid ID's one should be a government issued and NBI Clearance and one thousand pesos for the processing fee. If she don't want to be in line as early as 5 a.m she can go to any travel agency and have them process her passport. Good luck !

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shadow

Here's the deal. DFA is throwing up roadblocks because you gave them two documents with the mother's name spelled differently. Getting more documents (that will also have discrepancies in the mother's name) is not the answer. The answer is to only take to DFA the documents required for the application (on their website), and make damn sure the spelling is consistent throughout. If you need to go to a different DFA office to do this, then do that.

 

Here is a list of the DFA offices. 

 

http://www.philippinecountry.com/DFA.html

 

There is no office in Dumaguete. There is an office in Bacolod and one in Tacloban in addition to the one in Cebu. Since she has family on Leyte (if I understood right), then maybe Tacloban would be best, since they will wonder why she isn't going to the office in Cebu (where she lives)...or...she could just wait a month and start the process over again in Cebu. With the numbers they process, it isn't likely they will remember her. To make it easier on her, have her use an agency, such as Destination Specialists (or most any large travel agency). They will express her through the process. It will cost maybe up to a thousand pesos to have an agency shepherd her through the process, but it is well worth it. A good agency will check the paperwork to make sure there are no errors before it is submitted.

 

http://destinationcebu.com/other-services/

 

There is a list of the passport requirements in a link on this web page.

 

Our experience tells us the the Tacloban office is very strict, while Bacolod is rather lenient. She sent to me copies of what she was given at Carcar, but not the actual documents so we can see what the problem really is. Until we actually SEE what the problem is, and what documents she has, we cannot offer much advice. Passports are becoming harder to get the last few years, many clients are having trouble with this now. As has been stated, it is much easier to go by whatever is on the BC than try to change an error in a surname. (A given name can now be corrected without a judge's order. but a misspelling in a surname cannot.)

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NOSOCALPINOY

and how is HE going to correct the mothers BC without the mothers permission ?   he is in need of help for sure

The mother and daughter can always reconcile their differences in time of need! 

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SkyMan

For those suggesting going with the BC with the misspelling, that may not be possible. Only if the mother's name is spelled the same on both the local copy and the illegible NSO copy. I'm that case they're fine.

The mother and daughter can always reconcile their differences in time of need!

I'm sure for the right price.
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Salty Dog

For those suggesting going with the BC with the misspelling, that may not be possible. Only if the mother's name is spelled the same on both the local copy and the illegible NSO copy. I'm that case they're fine.

I'm sure for the right price.

Isn't the issue that her middle name doesn't match her mothers maiden name? Both of which are on the BC. How can she just start using the misspelled mother's name regardless?

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SkyMan

As I understand it, the first issue is that the DFA deemed the gf's NSO BC to be illegible. Don't know if it was completely or partially illegible though. Then DFA requested the local copy where there is the misspelling. But NSO copies are normally just the local copy on the special NSO paper. Not sure if the DFA would buy that the mother's maiden name and the gf's middle name are spelled differently.

 

From what Shadow said, I'd start over at the Bacolod office with just the NSO copy. If they again ask for the local leave and come back in an hour. Then only show the local copy if you get the same clerk or the new clerk asks for it. Perhaps somehow it will slip through.

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