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I started a new topic as air tickets, specials, and promos are usually time and date derived. A ticket price 2 months ago can have nothing to do with today's price. My first throw away cost me 20.00 U.S. and today is over a hundred.

dam you are getting screwed big time

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air asia has a very current "piso sale" on right now mate!

516 pso from manila to kl from feb next yr with air asia

This is true.   I usually find myself doing this on the other end of things so to speak. I usually book my wife a refundable ticket or 24 hour cancellation when we go on holiday in order to address

miles-high

Well, I don’t know, you guys, it seems that using this rule (see attached) to your benefit and fly (make a reservation that is) one of the US airlines and having a computer, printer and some imagination, you don’t really need to pay anything for the return ticket…

 

I have only tried twice during the short periods I did not have a visa… now that I am exempted from the return ticket requirement, I haven’t done it recently… Would love to hear anyone tried this recently... :)

 

My understanding is that UK and EU have similar rules…

 

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 Wife and I are headed to Hong Kong for a few days to clear my Balikbayan privilege and to get a new one.

 Last time we did this with Philippine Airlines they did not ask for proof of onward ticket from Hong Kong. This time we are using Cathay Pacific. 

 Does anyone know if Cathay Pacific routinely asks for proof on onward ticket?

 Has anyone ever tried this website: http://www.onwardflights.com/?

 Looks like for five dollars they will send you a flight reservation in your name that can be used for proof of onward journey. 

 If it really works all of our throw away ticket problems may be solved. 

Looks like the best deal that ever came around! Every tourist will be using this! Sounds too good to be true, but it looks worth while looking into ! A lot of people will appreciate this info, if it actually exists!

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Looks like a scam, no different than creating your own printout of a ticket.

 

Some airlines confirm flight info. Is it worth saving a few thousand peso, taking a chance on it?

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My onward ticket from TigerAir is $54.00, going to Singapore.

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Why pay anything? Just buy a fully refundable ticket. 

 

but don't do this with PAL as their idea of refund is make you wait half a year.


Well, I don’t know, you guys, it seems that using this rule (see attached) to your benefit and fly (make a reservation that is) one of the US airlines and having a computer, printer and some imagination, you don’t really need to pay anything for the return ticket…

 

I have only tried twice during the short periods I did not have a visa… now that I am exempted from the return ticket requirement, I haven’t done it recently… Would love to hear anyone tried this recently... :)

 

My understanding is that UK and EU have similar rules…

 

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Don't do this, many airlines check the validity of the flight and then you are caught with your pants down and forced to book a flight under pressure at the check in counter.

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Don't do this, many airlines check the validity of the flight and then you are caught with your pants down and forced to book a flight under pressure at the check in counter.

Or worse. You might get asked for your onward ticket at immigration on arrival. I know I get asked every time.

I believe they also there do have the ability to check the validity of said ticket.

Getting caught trying to defraud the BI is probably not a good thing.

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 Does anyone know if Cathay Pacific routinely asks for proof on onward ticket?
We flew Cathay Pacific several times between Cebu-Hong Kong and they ALWAYS asked for a onward ticket. The advice we got from Cathay in Cebu was to buy a full fare ticket and stop at their office when you landed and apply for a refund. If it was not bought in the Philippines, it was 100% refundable. YMMV 
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Don't do this, many airlines check the validity of the flight and then you are caught with your pants down and forced to book a flight under pressure at the check in counter.

After you bought your ticket, you would need to get to your port of entry in the Philippines (and to the place where you can get online) before the 24-hour window is up... Then, if you want to, cancel it, a perfectly legit action on your part... :)

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Seems like most airlines have different cancellation policies, here's just a few with the 24 hr cancellation policy. I guess you'll just have to go to each perspective airline's website to see what their policy is. 

 

http://www.airfarewatchdog.com/blog/7448099/airlines-courtesy-fare-hold-and-24-hour-cancel-change-policies/

(updated Jan. 1, 2014Here's some very useful information about changing or canceling an airfare within 24 hours of booking, as well as tips about getting a refund or making a change outside the 24-hour window. 

Non-refundable airfares are much cheaper than refundable ones, but if you cancel or change your flight, you'll pay a hefty fee. But there are some loopholes and workarounds.

If you are booking an airfare in the United States, U.S. Department of Transportationregulations require that, as long as you've booked a non-refundable ticket 7 days ahead of your flight, you're entitled to hold your reservation and the fare and change or cancel your reservation within 24 hours of booking, without paying a cancellation fee (typically $200 on the remaining large "network" carriers for a domestic fare, but much more (up to $450 for some international fares), a bit less on other airlines, as this chart shows.

You can either cancel the reservation entirely, or change it, within the 24-hour window. If you change it however, a fare difference may apply, but there is no change penalty. This applies not just to U.S.-based airlines, but any airline selling airfares in the U.S.

You still have to pay for the airfare, and then get a refund without penalty, except thatAmerican Airlines is a bit different in that it allows you to hold your seat and the fare for 24 hours without paying for it. On American, you should NOT pay for the fare, but merely choose the 24-hour hold option without payment. If you pay for the fare rather than holding it, you will be hit with a change/cancel fee on American! Also, American sells fare "add-ons"starting at $68 round-trip that allow you to change your flight for free at any time, and the add-on includes a checked bag round-trip and priority boarding. Something to consider.

Southwest Airlines lets you change or cancel a fare within the 24 hour window without penalty, but it also allows you to change or cancel a reservation anytime before flight time and get a credit for the full amount of your fare, applicable to future travel within a year of the original reservation. You will have to pay any applicable fare increase, however.

Alaska Airlines now allows free changes/cancels if made at least 60 days prior to travel.

Allegiant Airlines is a bit more specific, stating in its rules that you may cancel as long as your scheduled flight is at least 168 hours (24 x 7) away at time of booking.
In order to take advantage of the 24-hour cancel or change rule, it's best to book directly with airlines, either online or by phone, rather than through third-party websitesAnd it goes without saying that you can cancel a fully refundable ticket anytime and get a refund, although if you change rather than cancel there may be a fare difference if the fare has changed.

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After you bought your ticket, you would need to get to your port of entry in the Philippines (and to the place where you can get online) before the 24-hour window is up... Then, if you want to, cancel it, a perfectly legit action on your part... :)

This is true.

 

I usually find myself doing this on the other end of things so to speak. I usually book my wife a refundable ticket or 24 hour cancellation when we go on holiday in order to address the asinine requirement for Filipinos without a resident visa elsewhere to have a return ticket.

 

What a nation of children!

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Has anyone ever tried this website: http://www.onwardflights.com/?

 Looks like for five dollars they will send you a flight reservation in your name that can be used for proof of onward journey. 

 If it really works all of our throw away ticket problems may be solved.

Looks like a scam, no different than creating your own printout of a ticket.

 

Some airlines confirm flight info. Is it worth saving a few thousand peso, taking a chance on it?

 

There is no risk involved since the tickets you receive from companies like this are real and can be confirmed if the airline chooses to do so. You are basically just having them buy a refundable ticket and they then cancel it within a certain time frame. You can also choose to do this yourself through an airline that offers a full refund without question. I have always done the booking and canceling myself when I travel, but if you want to avoid the hassle paying a service like this would be a good option. Below is a video from another company that offers the same service showing how this is done.

 

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There is no risk involved since the tickets you receive from companies like this are real and can be confirmed if the airline chooses to do so. You are basically just having them buy a refundable ticket and they then cancel it within a certain time frame. You can also choose to do this yourself through an airline that offers a full refund without question. I have always done the booking and canceling myself when I travel, but if you want to avoid the hassle paying a service like this would be a good option. Below is a video from another company that offers the same service showing how this is done.

 

 

So you are telling me some company will charge me only a few bucks to book and cancel a flight worth hundreds of dollars.

 

Why would they tie up their money to buy the ticket for so little?

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So you are telling me some company will charge me only a few bucks to book and cancel a flight worth hundreds of dollars.

 

Why would they tie up their money to buy the ticket for so little?

 

Why wouldn't they do this? It doesn't cost them anything so the money they are charging the customer is all profit. 

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Why wouldn't they do this? It doesn't cost them anything so the money they are charging the customer is all profit. 

 

Don't they have to pay for the ticket upfront and then get the refund at some later date?

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