JAY P 144 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 And who said we want gun control? Not me that's for sure but I think Mr President here assumes (and it is assumes he thinks) he has just this. Link to post Share on other sites
InternetTough 1,393 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) ......this all reminds me how white south africans live.. But the time to be careful is BEFORE, right? Once the "agony of defeat" * sets in, it is a little late to be careful. *Remember the beginning of the old American show, "The Wide World of Sports"? Edited June 23, 2015 by InternetTough Link to post Share on other sites
+RogerDuMond 15,607 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I agree with Kid about getting a dog(s). True, they can be poisoned, but they make a great alarm system and most locals fear them. I have 2 small outside dogs and they will bite if someone tries to enter the property without a family member as an escort. And the locals know this. I would not live anywhere in the provinces without at least 1 outside guard dog. Invaluable in my opinion. Mine is an inside dog which works well because she is not super active. She doesn't bark, but her size is intimidating and everyone knows she is here from my daily walks. All the kids in the neighborhood love her, but not a single adult will come anywhere near her. This picture was taken a year ago when she was one year old. She has muscled out more since then and weighs about 45 kilos. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Admin (Retired) Aerosick 1,704 Posted June 23, 2015 Admin (Retired) Share Posted June 23, 2015 But the time to be careful is BEFORE, right? Once the "agony of defeat" * sets in, it is a little late to be careful. *Remember the beginning of the old American show, "The Wide World of Sports"? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ozboy 6,594 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 But the time to be careful is BEFORE, right? Yes no disagreement at all....what i was joking at is the need to build a fortress around you, complete with all sorts of security and vicious guard dogs when this place is supposed to be your island paradise... Besides hurt someone here and every time you leave your sanctuary, you might need to keep looking over your shoulder.... Link to post Share on other sites
+RogerDuMond 15,607 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 vicious guard dogs Got a good laugh out of this one. My little girl is afraid of everything and if someone comes in the house, she hides behind me until she finds out that they are okay. The people in the area don't know this though and that is fine by me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jawny 4,663 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 For the first time, I'm actually considering owning a gun. I really really hate guns but I really hate having my family killed and robbed more. If we did get a gun, Mrs would have lessons in how to use it as I really don't wanna touch the horrible thing. Besides which, if someone ends up dead, legally I think it's better if Mrs is the shooter as I don't think kanos allowed to own guns here? But if I do decide to get one, it wont be for a few years yet. The next 3 years we gonna be spending 10 months out of 12 in Australia so Mrs can qualify for her aussie passport. After that we gonna spend most of our time here in ph and build a big new house which will include a securely hidden safe in which (among other things) the loaded gun would be kept. Then if the same situation occurred, the bad guys would be told the cops are on their way and we have a gun. To emphasize the last point a shot would be fired into the air, which would also make a heck of a noise I imagine and possibly waken the neighbors at the back. If the criminals were dumb enough to persist, then they would find themselves seriously dead upon entry. But while I personally would much prefer that outcome, I'm concerned about possible legal issues. Certainly in Australia you are charged with murder if you kill someone breaking into your house. Self defence is only an excuse if you can prove your life was in very imminent danger and there was no other option. Which is bullshit IMHO. If an unarmed dude was caught in the act of robbing me, I should have the right to kill him by any means necessary while he remains on my property, including shooting him in the back while he's trying to escape. I'm almost certainly one of those people who should NOT own a gun! Sorry to hear of your close call. I hope you're able to take some steps when you return that will put your mind at ease. We have a rather secure home, but if a determined individual or group wanted to gain entry, it would be possible. The nearest police support would be at least a half hour if there was enough gas in their motorcycles. I do have the local police in my contacts on the phone, but my strategy is to create enough of a barricade to slow the entry. As well, we do have a weapon, legal, to provide last ditch support. This thread can very quickly get off onto the issue of weapons and such and I have no intention of starting a discussion about what is appropriate to do when a home is being invaded. I've made up my mind that deadly force is allowed and will be used if an entry is made. Getting a legal weapon is a fairly complex process, but doable. Your choice. However, if you have no intention of using it, then probably wiser to find other forms of security. I'm not big on the use of cameras and such. It doesn't interest me to have someone find the people who killed me. I'd rather spend on security that slows the culprits enough that I can get help from neighbors or police. Link to post Share on other sites
Cipro 6,202 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Your wife needs a shotgun. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Lee 17,711 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I'm not big on the use of cameras and such. My opinion on cameras, if used correctly then they can be a big help preventing a crime as well as for the after the fact time. Telling a guy "hey you with the red shirt and blue shorts and you with the white tshirt and bluejeans and driving motorcycle plate number so and so, your photos have already been emailed to the police so if you are who you say you are then no problem but if you have bad intentions then best to move on or you will surely be caught." Most criminals do not wish to get caught so they will then go pick an easier target. No way is prefect but seeing them first before they see you can give a person an leg up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
burnttoast 379 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Your wife needs a shotgun. That's a good call, I heard just the sound of one chambering a round in a shotgun is enough to scare off most home invaders in America at least. Link to post Share on other sites
Oz Jon 2,478 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) As an alternative to guns .... How about electric fences ( very cheap!) and maybe a Taser? Effective and a lot less lethal! Edited June 23, 2015 by Oz Jon Link to post Share on other sites
Cipro 6,202 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 That's a good call, I heard just the sound of one chambering a round in a shotgun is enough to scare off most home invaders in America at least. Not sure how the rurals are in PH but where I grew up a shotgun was an almost indispensable pest control tool anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
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