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For the first time, I'm actually considering owning a gun.  I really really hate guns but I really hate having my family killed and robbed more.  If we did get a gun, Mrs would have lessons in how to use it as I really don't wanna touch the horrible thing.  Besides which, if someone ends up dead, legally I think it's better if Mrs is the shooter as I don't think kanos allowed to own guns here?

 

But if I do decide to get one, it wont be for a few years yet.  The next 3 years we gonna be spending 10 months out of 12 in Australia so Mrs can qualify for her aussie passport.  After that we gonna spend most of our time here in ph and build a big new house which will include a securely hidden safe in which (among other things) the loaded gun would be kept.

 

Then if the same situation occurred, the bad guys would be told the cops are on their way and we have a gun.  To emphasize the last point a shot would be fired into the air, which would also make a heck of a noise I imagine and possibly waken the neighbors at the back.  If the criminals were dumb enough to persist, then they would find themselves seriously dead upon entry.  But while I personally would much prefer that outcome, I'm concerned about possible legal issues.  Certainly in Australia you are charged with murder if you kill someone breaking into your house.  Self defence is only an excuse if you can prove your life was in very imminent danger and there was no other option.  Which is bullshit IMHO.  If an unarmed dude was caught in the act of robbing me, I should have the right to kill him by any means necessary while he remains on my property, including shooting him in the back while he's trying to escape.

 

I'm almost certainly one of those people who should NOT own a gun!

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We had our family get together and it went well.  Filipinos really know how to party!  My geriatric in-laws can dance up a storm when plied with sufficient liquor.  Actually so can I   Anyway, part

Rather than procrastinating, you may want to put that on your short term list of to-do's, David. Obviously, someone has heard, or believes for whatever reason(s), that you have something of serious

before i met the wife, they had a similar incident,   Nanay grabbed his hand and pulled it through while the wife used one of these on his arm   the cops dragged him away bleeding and screeming

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 To emphasize the last point a shot would be fired into the air, which would also make a heck of a noise I imagine and possibly waken the neighbors

 

 

In it'self an Offence. Conditions of the licence are that you account for every Live round Spent, Yearly. Unless a Police Officer saw you do that they will assume you shot and missed your target. Firing in the Air is considered Reckless and may have an affect on Licence renewal. Bin there Done that.

 

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colemanlee

There are several "legal" gun licenses your wife can get here....and you as her husband are perfectly legal to use the weapon in defense of your home..

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There are several "legal" gun licenses your wife can get here....and you as her husband are perfectly legal to use the weapon in defense of your home..

100% correct.

 

Ps make sure the person you shoot has a weapon.

If you kill someone here you have to have fear for your life.

 

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For the first time, I'm actually considering owning a gun.  I really really hate guns but I really hate having my family killed and robbed more.  If we did get a gun, Mrs would have lessons in how to use it as I really don't wanna touch the horrible thing.  Besides which, if someone ends up dead, legally I think it's better if Mrs is the shooter as I don't think kanos allowed to own guns here?

 

But if I do decide to get one, it wont be for a few years yet.  The next 3 years we gonna be spending 10 months out of 12 in Australia so Mrs can qualify for her aussie passport.  After that we gonna spend most of our time here in ph and build a big new house which will include a securely hidden safe in which (among other things) the loaded gun would be kept.

 

Then if the same situation occurred, the bad guys would be told the cops are on their way and we have a gun.  To emphasize the last point a shot would be fired into the air, which would also make a heck of a noise I imagine and possibly waken the neighbors at the back.  If the criminals were dumb enough to persist, then they would find themselves seriously dead upon entry.  But while I personally would much prefer that outcome, I'm concerned about possible legal issues.  Certainly in Australia you are charged with murder if you kill someone breaking into your house.  Self defence is only an excuse if you can prove your life was in very imminent danger and there was no other option.  Which is bullshit IMHO.  If an unarmed dude was caught in the act of robbing me, I should have the right to kill him by any means necessary while he remains on my property, including shooting him in the back while he's trying to escape.

 

I'm almost certainly one of those people who should NOT own a gun!

Sorry to hear of your experience, being a foreigner or married to, or living with one can make a person a pretty big target when in a poor country.

 

As for firearms, please never fire a warning shot into the air, one never knows where it will come down and who it might injure or kill when it does, besides that, it is against the law in most places to discharge a firearm unless it is in self defense. When it is our families life in danger, even many who are antigun will come around to realize that it might be the only last resort way to protect yourself and your family but should of course only be used for self defense when all else has failed.

 

Locking a gun in a safe when home makes it almost useless but locking it up when away is a great idea.  

 

As others have written, other means of home protection should be the first line of defense, dogs but also items such as bright lights that turn on automatically and some with a switch to turn on, cameras to see who is there and also to take their photos to send on to the police and tell them you have done so. Make friends with the local police and get some of their email addresses and personal phone numbers. 

 

Good luck, be careful, and be safe.

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I was glad to hear that you fixed your gate. After I heard someone climbing around my roof at 1:30 am one night I strengthened all the entrances to my house, among other things. Passive defences are much less legally problematic than active ones, and intruders spending time and effort defeating them will possibly give you a warning and be counted as legal evidence in your favor if things get violent afterwards.

 

The story Philuk told of how his wife and mother-in-law once combined passive (gate) and active defences (saw) shows how complementary they can be. In that case, either one in isolation could well not have been enough, it sounds.

 

I rent a house in the city and it would be a violation of my rental contract to have a dog or two (I'd have two so they could keep each other company), but if I lived in a place where I could have dogs, I'd have german shepherds because Guenther, a person well versed in the Philippines, said that the locals are most afraid of that breed. Also, they are good guard dogs. 

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I agree with Kid about getting a dog(s). True, they can be poisoned, but they make a great alarm system and most locals fear them. I have 2 small outside dogs and they will bite if someone tries to enter the property without a family member as an escort. And the locals know this. I would not live anywhere in the provinces without at least 1 outside guard dog. Invaluable in my opinion.

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For goodness sake why didn't your wife awaken you from the jump?

Glad you're safe and no one got hurt

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2x4 across the doors work well.

By the time they kick it in you will at least have time to arm yourself and call the police

 

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2x4 across the doors work well.

By the time they kick it in you will at least have time to arm yourself and call the police

 

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I use a heavy plank with one end under the doorknob and the other anchored by the sofa.

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......this all reminds me how white south africans live.. :aggressive:

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In it'self an Offence. Conditions of the licence are that you account for every Live round Spent, Yearly. Unless a Police Officer saw you do that they will assume you shot and missed your target. Firing in the Air is considered Reckless and may have an affect on Licence renewal. Bin there Done that.

 

JP :hi:

 

I don't know what country you are talking about with regards to 'account for every live round spent' , but it is certainly not the Philippines.

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Found this little add-on to your security system interesting

 

 

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'account for every live round spent' , but it is certainly not the Philippines.

 

Then it should be. How on earth can you have Gun control if you don't control both parts of the issue, Weapon & Ammunition.

problems will always arise if a job is only ever half done but then...... "We ain't in Kansas no more" is we?

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Then it should be. How on earth can you have Gun control if you don't control both parts of the issue, Weapon & Ammunition.

problems will always arise if a job is only ever half done but then...... "We ain't in Kansas no more" is we?

And who said we want gun control?

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