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I contacted the VA Clinic in Manila and asked them to explain why some vets get treatment and other's don't, here is their response:

 

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That was possible if your NSC meds or medical concern is aggravating with your SC. That would be determine by your VA doctor and subject to approve or dis approve.
For example, your service connected with diabetic and not service connected with your heart condition. This case you may get treatment and medication of your heart condition with in the limit of facility because you are diabetic and this may be the cause of your problem with your heart condition. But again, its subject to determine by your VA Doctor.


 
 
In VA speak I think this means that if your doctor likes you, takes pitty on you or you bribe him, you can get care.
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I think if U tried to bribe a doctor, he would turn U in. It is a felony. My new doctor who I met the first time on the 3rd was professional in every respect. I assume every part of that clinic is under some sort of surveillance system.

 

The blue writen says in Filipino that if your NSC is causing your SC to be worse, they will treat it. I am NSC diabetic, but SC heart, and if the NSC is not treated, no point in treating the SC.

This is called compassion, and caring about your patients. Its part of the reason they became doctors.

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I contacted the VA Clinic in Manila and asked them to explain why some vets get treatment and other's don't, here is their response:

 

Greetings!

Sir,

 

That was possible if your NSC meds or medical concern is aggravating with your SC. That would be determine by your VA doctor and subject to approve or dis approve.

For example, your service connected with diabetic and not service connected with your heart condition. This case you may get treatment and medication of your heart condition with in the limit of facility because you are diabetic and this may be the cause of your problem with your heart condition. But again, its subject to determine by your VA Doctor.

 
 
In VA speak I think this means that if your doctor likes you, takes pitty on you or you bribe him, you can get care.

 

 

I went thru that quite a few times there. Yes the rules/guidelines are VERY clear, but NOT EVEN ONCE was that allowed for me. It was SO aggravating that for hernia surgery, I didn't even argue with them even tho the specialist was CLEARat it was sc. VA doctor here was 'perplexed' as to why they didn't allow it there.

 

On another note-I highly commend the 'regular' folks at the VA clinic in Manila-they are head and shoulders above the folks at the VA clinic here. Doctors far better-more concerned-other staff mostly rude/lazy, and generally disinterested.

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I would like to know what VA considers a serious enough illness to qualify for reimbursement. I had a mild stoke in August. After an overnight hospital stay and a few weeks of PT total costs for drugs, PT, doctor's fees and hospital stay and diagnostics was nearly 60,000Php. FMP said request for reimbursement had to be filed at VA in Manila, which I did and it was denied. What really get me is that I am rated 100% total and permanent. How can a stroke not be covered? I really don't get it. Can somebody explain this to me please.

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I would like to know what VA considers a serious enough illness to qualify for reimbursement. I had a mild stoke in August. After an overnight hospital stay and a few weeks of PT total costs for drugs, PT, doctor's fees and hospital stay and diagnostics was nearly 60,000Php. FMP said request for reimbursement had to be filed at VA in Manila, which I did and it was denied. What really get me is that I am rated 100% total and permanent. How can a stroke not be covered? I really don't get it. Can somebody explain this to me please.

"can someone explain this to me, please."

 

NO!!!!!

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Hell with the plethora of physiological and psychological factors that lead to stroke. How can a Stroke not be an aggravating illness to "Any" Service Connected condition?

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I would like to know what VA considers a serious enough illness to qualify for reimbursement. I had a mild stoke in August. After an overnight hospital stay and a few weeks of PT total costs for drugs, PT, doctor's fees and hospital stay and diagnostics was nearly 60,000Php. FMP said request for reimbursement had to be filed at VA in Manila, which I did and it was denied. What really get me is that I am rated 100% total and permanent. How can a stroke not be covered? I really don't get it. Can somebody explain this to me please.

I go to the VA  here in Florida for most of my medical care, I find the staff a great bunch of people and get treated with dignity and respect at all times!  I continue to carry health insurance in case of needed emergency care.  I have heard too many stories of the VA not manning up and paying the bill for emergency care!

 

You think 60,000P is bad?  Last year I went to the ER in Punta Gorda FL, the bill for 4 hours was $15,000 US dollars!!   My part of the bill was less than $100.

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I would like to know what VA considers a serious enough illness to qualify for reimbursement. I had a mild stoke in August. After an overnight hospital stay and a few weeks of PT total costs for drugs, PT, doctor's fees and hospital stay and diagnostics was nearly 60,000Php. FMP said request for reimbursement had to be filed at VA in Manila, which I did and it was denied. What really get me is that I am rated 100% total and permanent. How can a stroke not be covered? I really don't get it. Can somebody explain this to me please.

I will try: The VA in the Philippines is unique to the VA system. Anywhere else you would get care, but in Manila the name of the game seems to be deny a Vet as often as possible. Since it is doubtful, "Stroke" is listed as one of your service related conditions, they denied your claim. You can go to the Manila Clinic, but usually you have to have an appointment in advance. If the doctor you see decides to give you treatment and medications when he sees you, you will get them, but only if he so orders. Yes, it is a very arbitrary and unfair system, but it's all we have here. By the way, there are no in patient services in Manila, so if the doctor orders hospitalization in your case, they will send you to a local hospital, usually at their expense.

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Thanks Bill, I have lived here in the Philippines for the last 8 years. Our quality of care just recently changed. I had some advanced warning from my doctors when I visited the first of the year (2015). Why are we Vets here in the PI being denied the care we would get back home without question? This irks the shit out of me. I don't like being powerless like this. In the states I always had the DAV to advocate for me. God I miss them! They do not exist here. I got no help from the VFW, here. I'm the same Vet that left the US eight years ago. How can my government let me down like this?

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This is kind of late but, I have a disability for my heart. I have a check up every 6 months at VA in Manila, I get my meds updated then (which they mail to me every three months by air21) I can use Angeles 's Clark Medical Center (great Place) for my service connected disability the VA pays 100 %,  they also accept Tri care, you pay your co-pay they (hospital)  do the paper work for the rest.  I read someone said fly to Guam or else where, if it is a service  connected disability, fly to Angeles Clark Internatiponal

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