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the current director of MANILA VA has done ALOT of improvements compared to Mr Skelly  .

 even walk-ins are being served /

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The manila OPC has a diffrent mandate than any other VA facility, I used to have the sight, but lost it.

It explaines the congres sh nal? exp[lination for the diffrence.

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§ 17.35 Hospital care and medical services in foreign countries.

 

The Secretary may furnish hospital care and medical services to any veteran sojourning or residing outside the United States, without regard to the veteran's citizenship:

 

(a) If necessary for treatment of a service-connected disability, or any disability associated with and held to be aggravating a service-connected disability;

 

(b) If the care is furnished to a veteran participating in a rehabilitation program under 38 U.S.C. chapter 31 who requires care for the reasons enumerated in 38 CFR 17.47(i)(2).

 

(Authority: 38 U.S.C. 1724) [55 FR 11370, Mar. 28, 1990. Redesignated at 61 FR 21965, May 13, 1996, as amended at

74 FR 30228, June 25, 2009]

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§ 17.35 Hospital care and medical services in foreign countries.

 

The Secretary may furnish hospital care and medical services to any veteran sojourning or residing outside the United States, without regard to the veteran's citizenship:

 

(a) If necessary for treatment of a service-connected disability, or any disability associated with and held to be aggravating a service-connected disability;

 

(b) If the care is furnished to a veteran participating in a rehabilitation program under 38 U.S.C. chapter 31 who requires care for the reasons enumerated in 38 CFR 17.47(i)(2).

 

(Authority: 38 U.S.C. 1724) [55 FR 11370, Mar. 28, 1990. Redesignated at 61 FR 21965, May 13, 1996, as amended at

74 FR 30228, June 25, 2009]

 

(a)"associated with............."

And that clinic in Manila will NOT obey that. I have even sent that to them, and 3-THREE- different times I have had specialists they sent me to here in Cebu, say it was related/aggravated/caused, etc etc and each time it was denied!!!!!!!

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(a)"associated with............."

And that clinic in Manila will NOT obey that. I have even sent that to them, and 3-THREE- different times I have had specialists they sent me to here in Cebu, say it was related/aggravated/caused, etc etc and each time it was denied!!!!!!!

 

I will be in the US soon. While I'm there I'll try to stop my congressman's office not that it will do any good but who knows? I'll also check with the patient advocate at the Fresno VA and see if there is a path to take.

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I will be in the US soon. While I'm there I'll try to stop my congressman's office not that it will do any good but who knows? I'll also check with the patient advocate at the Fresno VA and see if there is a path to take.

 

Good luck with that.  My congresswoman, who is admittedly to the left of Karl Marx is about as useful as tits on a boar hog.  Even when I proved to her staff the VA was breaking its own rules, they would not do anything meaningful.  As for patient advocates, you'll need even more luck.  They always strike me is just another mouthpiece for the VA to deny, delay and obviate any issue brought to them.

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As for patient advocates, you'll need even more luck. They always strike me is just another mouthpiece for the VA to deny, delay and obviate any issue brought to them.

 

 

Of course you will get no help from patient advocates... they do work for VA administrators after all. All you will get (or should expect) is clerical help from them... certainly no help regarding complaint type issues. And therein lies the problem... there is no self-guiding, self-administrating watchdog agency for complaints about the VA system itself. Congressman/Senators are the only place we can seem to go... and many of them will do nothing unless your complaints happen to coincide with some agenda they have.

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Actually I have more faith in the patient advocate than I do my congressman. A few months ago my longtime nurse at the Fresno VA became a patient advocate. Her and I have a long history together and an excellent rapport. She has worked some miracles for me before and she may be able to at least get the ball rolling in the right direction. Win or lose I'm confident that she'll give it a good try.

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§ 17.35 Hospital care and medical services in foreign countries.

 

The Secretary may furnish hospital care and medical services to any veteran sojourning or residing outside the United States, without regard to the veteran's citizenship:

 

(a) If necessary for treatment of a service-connected disability, or any disability associated with and held to be aggravating a service-connected disability;

 

(b) If the care is furnished to a veteran participating in a rehabilitation program under 38 U.S.C. chapter 31 who requires care for the reasons enumerated in 38 CFR 17.47(i)(2).

 

(Authority: 38 U.S.C. 1724) [55 FR 11370, Mar. 28, 1990. Redesignated at 61 FR 21965, May 13, 1996, as amended at

74 FR 30228, June 25, 2009]

In the quote above, one word that we keep skimming over that is probably the most important word as far as Veterans living in the Philippines are concerned, is "The Secretary MAY..." (my Caps)  It isn't "Must" or "Will"  

 

I can't find anywhere - and I have looked - where the law indicates what criteria is used to determine when and if the Manila OPC will stop providing any service.  However I have been told by the Manager of the OPC that the OPC is on an Annual Reviewal.  I don't know what the result of this years review is yet.

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The thing is, tho' Mike, it is left up to the discretion of the pcp, and the pcps just flat don't give a crap. IMO, and from what I have personally seen.

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Actually I have more faith in the patient advocate than I do my congressman. A few months ago my longtime nurse at the Fresno VA became a patient advocate. Her and I have a long history together and an excellent rapport. She has worked some miracles for me before and she may be able to at least get the ball rolling in the right direction. Win or lose I'm confident that she'll give it a good try.

 

Of course, there are always exceptions, even at the VA, but what has been stated by others is surely the norm, your situation the exception.  Lucky you.

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You know, it's interesting that the Philippines has several of the largest VFW and American Legion posts in the world and yet their parent headquarters do nothing whatsoever to lobby congress on their behalf or for their specific needs.

 

Taxation without representation.

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The thing is, tho' Mike, it is left up to the discretion of the pcp, and the pcps just flat don't give a crap. IMO, and from what I have personally seen.

Bill, Dr. Lopez at the VA told me to file the claim on SVT which I did in September of 2014. 7 Months later I got a letter from the VA telling me that my claim was granted at 30% - I don't get any money for it - but now if I am admitted due SVT it will be Service Connected and the VA will pick up the Tab.  Dr. Lopez is on Staff at the VA, but she can't give me a service connected rating - only the Regional Office can do that - to get the rating, regardless of who is diagnosing and recommending, you still need to file the claim and have it adjudicated. 

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You know, it's interesting that the Philippines has several of the largest VFW and American Legion posts in the world and yet their parent headquarters do nothing whatsoever to lobby congress on their behalf or for their specific needs.

 

Taxation without representation.

There are 7 VFW Posts in the Philippines - Baguio with about 115 members, Angeles City 1682, LaUnion 250, Subic 410 and Cebu with 98 members - these are estimates based on last years totals so although A/C is very large and on Par with some posts in Pennsylvania it doesn't have that much sway on National Politics.

 

The Department of the Pacific will be holding their annual convention in A/C in June - Commander in Chief John Stroud is scheduled to attend - trust me there will be many people pulling him aside to address this and other issues.

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I addressed this a few months back in a different post, after I had written directly to the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, the President, both of my Senators and my House Representative.

 

The only way things can be changed is for the wording in the law to be changed, and to specifically state the Philippines within the law to include non-service connected treatment.

 

Because of my letter and subsequent phone conversations with Sen Donnelly (D) IN, he has promised to include the provisions to VA legislation he is writing. It's not much, but it was the best I could do.

 

Gentleman, until the law is changed, there is not a God-damned thing that any of us can do.

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