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the whole area is so bad.. i just cant accept all the posts made by the foreigners that live there saying that its an ok place ..its in the middle of nowhere and the only thing that makes people go there is the airbase and that sleazy street nextdoor. Surely if you want to live in the philippines there must be better places if your not there for the obvious. When i read that this guy had build this bowling green and all the local expats where out in their whites on a sunday morning.. it really jars with what goes on there the night before.. bizarre story.

 

I understand your view, but I wasn't referring to his lack of knowledge of Angeles City. I was referring to his lack of knowledge of the PPD.

 

As has been stated, Angeles City is much more than just Field's Avenue and "Blow Row". There is an entire city to visit and explore. There is the CEZ to visit as well. When I last when there, I took a ride through the old base. The ride along the street was as though I had been transported right back to the USA. It was scary, let me tell ya. :coffee:

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spooks
the whole area is so bad.. i just cant accept all the posts made by the foreigners that live there saying that its an ok place ..its in the middle of nowhere and the only thing that makes people go there is the airbase and that sleazy street nextdoor. Surely if you want to live in the philippines there must be better places if your not there for the obvious. When i read that this guy had build this bowling green and all the local expats where out in their whites on a sunday morning.. it really jars with what goes on there the night before.. bizarre story.

 

I understand your view, but I wasn't referring to his lack of knowledge of Angeles City. I was referring to his lack of knowledge of the PPD.

 

As has been stated, Angeles City is much more than just Field's Avenue and "Blow Row". There is an entire city to visit and explore. There is the CEZ to visit as well. When I last when there, I took a ride through the old base. The ride along the street was as though I had been transported right back to the USA. It was scary, let me tell ya. :coffee:

 

 

 

John died dec 24th 2005 in Compostella just north of Cebu city. He was buried in the Alfonso family plot by his land lady and good friend Mummy Solidad. John's Partner, Paterna and his son (Johnny now aged 6/7) Moved back to her family area in South west Cebu. John never really recovered for his hospital imprisonment. During his tenure of what was then Green Valley sports club he pioneered lawn bowls in the Philippines and was responsible for bringing in top flight international competitions.

 

I worked with John for a while, he was always active and worked hard to look after his family.

 

He deserved better.

 

 

mike

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Paul
John died dec 24th 2005 in Compostella just north of Cebu city. He was buried in the Alfonso family plot by his land lady and good friend Mummy Solidad. John's Partner, Paterna and his son (Johnny now aged 6/7) Moved back to her family area in South west Cebu. John never really recovered for his hospital imprisonment. During his tenure of what was then Green Valley sports club he pioneered lawn bowls in the Philippines and was responsible for bringing in top flight international competitions.

 

I worked with John for a while, he was always active and worked hard to look after his family.

 

He deserved better.

 

 

mike

 

It couldn't have been stated better, Mike Mike. Thanks for your post.

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loosehead
PS - Shocking fact - I ate lunch next to 3 police officers the other day, and none of them dropped drugs on me, arrested me and extorted me. How can this be???

 

If you spent time in Angeles City, or Pampanga in general, you would not have made such a statement.

 

 

The aussies who live in Angeles would cross the road so they didn't have to run the risk of being hustled while walking past the Baligago Police Station. In the mid-80's the cops were known to throw a joint on the ground as the foreigner walked past and then charge a bribe for them to get out. When I lived in Manila there were so many set-ups and frame-ups one of the first pieces of advice to a new expat employee was to avoid the police like the plague. There were a bunch of kids who operated near my apartment in Pasay who would playfully jump all over any foreigner with hands going in all pockets. They were under the watchful eye of a policeman who would charge the foreigner with assault if they forcefully fought off the kids or attempted to get their belongings back.

 

While I agree the Phils in general is safe if you keep your eyes open and take common sense precautions, I wouldn't drop my guard around a police officer. And if they were drinking, I would immediately exit stage right.......

 

Any foreigner who can afford a plane ticket to the Philippines is considered rich so no amount of dressing down will help that perception. Of course blokes who like to wear flash jewelry would be best advised to leave it at home. I dress up to go out at night but I catch cabs so the risk is minimised. Over the years i have been known to roam all over Manila, Angeles, Cebu and Dumaguete walking the streets after a large number of beers including drinking in the Port areas at all hours of the night. I have been in some interesting situations including a couple of fights but never been mugged or stabbed.

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loosehead

If you took away the bars, there wouldn't be many foreigners living in Angeles apart from some old retirees too old to move and a few expats working in the tech industries. Why would someone want to live near an airport ? It's miles from the coast. The taxi and trike drivers are thieving scum. The joint is full of prostitutes, the police there have the worst reputation in the Phils. In my view, the place is a dump and only really of interest to those chasing cheap p*ssy and the old codgers who live there cos there are lots of other old codgers to socialise with.

 

Check out Harry the Horse's website to find out what expat life in Angeles is all about. Actually some of you guys will appreciate harry's right wing Fox News view of American politics and social issues.

 

There are many expats who don't travel much. You would be surprised how many of the expats living in Angeles and manila have never been to Cebu, Dumaguete, Palawan, Leyte. They don't know that the best people and places are in the visayas so let's not tell them.

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Paul

Bumped up for a member who was looking for this topic.

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Stranded Shipscook

here is the post of Wombat a while ago, its worth GOLD :

As suggested by him, laminate it and display in prominent area.

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1. The POLICE arrive with a SEARCH WARRANT:

 

a) Do not allow them to enter the premises, politely informing them to comply with the Warrant.

b.) Read the Warrant carefully.

c) Inform them of the name and address of your local Barangay representative and that of a known local resident.

d) Inform the Police that entry will be granted once these named persons arrive.

e) On arrival of the SEARCH witnesses, ask the supervising Officer who he has nominated to carry out the SEARCH then request that your witnesses are allowed to SEARCH that Officer so nominated.

f) If the supervising Officer nominates more than one searcher, then politely point out that the Warrant is addressed to 'any police officer' in the singular. The intent is that the witnesses are with the searcher at all times. Should the supervising officer argue this point, you may quote section 7 of Rule 126 of the Rules of Court whereby the person named in the Warrant must also witness the SEARCH and that you cannot witness more than one searcher at a time.

g) Insist that the nominated searcher wear gloves and that any incriminating evidence found be tested for your fingerprints.

h) Once this has been sorted out (the police having been reminded of their responsibilities under the Law) grant entry to the nominated searcher plus the witnesses. Inform the supervising officer that in order for them to comply with the Warrant, all others must remain outside until the SEARCH has been completed.

i) *IMPORTANT* Note what item(s) are nominated on the SEARCH Warrant. No other item may be seized other than that for which the Warrant was issued.

j) Should a prohibited drug be found, telephone a very good attorney. The Police have only discovered evidence of a possible crime, and have not witnessed a crime in progress, therefore you are not obliged to go with them at that moment. You could request to wait for your attorney and use the time to put your affairs in order. The police must complete a lot of paperwork then appear before a Judge to obtain a Warrant of Arrest.

Edited by Guenther
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Wombat No More

Thanks Guenther but if any credit is due (and I'm sure we're not looking for any) it goes to Paul as I got the info in this bumped up topic he just reposted on my query. Just hope it helps some poor bastard who 'might' be getting the short end of the stick

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Stranded Shipscook

Thanks Guenther but if any credit is due (and I'm sure we're not looking for any) it goes to Paul as I got the info in this bumped up topic he just reposted on my query. Just hope it helps some poor bastard who 'might' be getting the short end of the stick

 

Credit clicked :1frog:

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jake sakic

G... i was looking for that and did not go through the long post about warrant elsewhere on this site as it was kinda usless. (moderator-->Get G...'s post as a sticky on top of the warrant forum thing)

 

I always remember people about the involvment of the judge in a warrant issuance and that many loop wholes are there, but i also had my share of illegal and currupt situation in asia (remember the: "sign this statment"..."but,but,but it's written in freakin traditional [email protected]" ;-)) so i was looking foward to find this list you just made for us.

 

Definetely will print this as a saftey paper to keep in the house. Also is there an official version of this anywhere? even maybe a legal draft that could be presented to any officer presenting their fake/real warrant. because we all saw "the sheilds" methods and sometimes making a Filipino cop lose face might bring some very very unpredictable reactions.

 

I am just thinking that while i read their warrant they can read what i will be demanding of them right after i finish reading their warrant....and i don't think the big funky font would work ;-)

 

thanks

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Alan S

For Philippine laws, see the library at: http://www.pinoylaw.com/

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M.Baboy

Thanks for posting this

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tylerthedude

Hulidap is a tried and proven money maker in these enchanted green isles. Keep your wits about you, monfrere

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