Paul 55,114 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) This could come back and bite me on the ass. However, I am going to go out on a limb and say he, most likely, was not kidnapped. I feel as though, if he were, someone would have heard something by now. Many scenarios as to what may have happened are possible, though. One that comes to my mind is, they are drifting due to the motor failing - yes, even though it was newer. Edited February 19, 2015 by Paul 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post oztony 36,116 Posted February 19, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2015 I was asked not to share information publicly as someone thinks it could be used against him is he was taken against his will. I sincerely apologize for all inconveniences this has caused I really don't see anything that could be used against anyone in this thread , what I do see though is some concerned expats , a lot of whom are local to that area of the Philippines , offering thoughts , support and a venue for you to discuss this laterally and all of whom have expressed their best wishes for a positive outcome to this event. And will continue to do so. Although I am not there presently , my house is only 2 hours up the road from Siaton and I know Larry (shadow) is even closer , if you were of the mind to go to Negros I could offer accommodation and a 4wd vehicle with a driver , these are the benefits of this forum , people come together to support and help in dire times , as far as the downside , there is none. regards Tony 11 Link to post Share on other sites
quit_yume 1,003 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I can't imagine one of those things sinking which unfortunately only leaves 1 other likely outcome. and yes there have been folks kidnapped before in southern phils where it took days to find out that was the case. the 1st priority of the kidnappers is going to be to move the victims to a secure location or even possibly to hand them off to a more organized group. Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 55,114 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I am not certain of this. But, I believe it to have been a family member of Brad's. Obviously, the family member has very little working knowledge of the Philippines, and does not realize what could actually benefit those who are trying to locate him and the others on that boat. I will not remove any posts from this thread, regarding locating the man and the others aboard that pump boat.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
FISHINGBRAT 137 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Tony Sir I agree wholeheartedly. I was just doing as one of his family members asked me to do and remove my posts, not to post anything publicly about Brad especially "on a Philippine forum" There are a lot and I mean a LOT of people worried. Stupid me went out trying to find help to bring my bud home and turns out it upset his family.. That's the last thing I want to do, I just want him home. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 55,114 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 FISHINGBRAT: The information you have posted, has in no way, been detrimental in helping locate these folks. You should not listen to whomever has asked you to do this. They don't know what they are talking about. That's the last thing I want to do, I just want him home. I assure you, and I think I speak for each and every member involved here - that is what WE want as well. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
oztony 36,116 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Tony Sir I agree wholeheartedly. I was just doing as one of his family members asked me to do and remove my posts, not to post anything publicly about Brad especially "on a Philippine forum" There are a lot and I mean a LOT of people worried. Stupid me went out trying to find help to bring my bud home and turns out it upset his family.. That's the last thing I want to do, I just want him home. The collective knowledge that this forum has is too much to ignore , I feel sympathy for the family and friends of those that are missing , but common sense must prevail , within 5 mins or so of you posting the news on that youtube link last night (Australia time) my wife had interpreted it and we gave a reply to your post , the family of Brad are in no doubt experiencing total emotional turmoil , your contact with this site should be considered a blessing , not a hindrance , but understandably it is hard to see the true value in things when people are hurting so much , please convey to the family that no one here is interfering or creating any problems , and in reality they really are fortunate that you came to Linc in search of some answers , because the advice and information that you will receive from this forum is experienced and relevant and real , and some of us know some very powerful and connected local Filipino's in that area , there is nothing bad about you coming to this forum , only good. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 55,114 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The collective knowledge that this forum has is too much to ignore , I feel sympathy for the family and friends of those that are missing , but common sense must prevail , within 5 mins or so of you posting the news on that youtube link last night (Australia time) my wife had interpreted it and we gave a reply to your post , the family of Brad are in no doubt experiencing total emotional turmoil , your contact with this site should be considered a blessing , not a hindrance , but understandably it is hard to see the true value in things when people are hurting so much , please convey to the family that no one here is interfering or creating any problems , and in reality they really are fortunate that you came to Linc in search of some answers , because the advice and information that you will receive from this forum is experienced and relevant and real , and some of us know some very powerful and connected local Filipino's in that area , there is nothing bad about you coming to this forum , only good. I wish I could be as diplomatic in my posts. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 18,483 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) The collective knowledge that this forum has is too much to ignore , I feel sympathy for the family and friends of those that are missing , but common sense must prevail , within 5 mins or so of you posting the news on that youtube link last night (Australia time) my wife had interpreted it and we gave a reply to your post , the family of Brad are in no doubt experiencing total emotional turmoil , your contact with this site should be considered a blessing , not a hindrance , but understandably it is hard to see the true value in things when people are hurting so much , please convey to the family that no one here is interfering or creating any problems , and in reality they really are fortunate that you came to Linc in search of some answers , because the advice and information that you will receive from this forum is experienced and relevant and real , and some of us know some very powerful and connected local Filipino's in that area , there is nothing bad about you coming to this forum , only good. If this case had not been kept as such a secret, I may have towed my boat to Siaton and gone fishing myself, just to have more eyes on the water. I'm only an hour away. At that point I could have been a DAY ahead of the authorities. When you are in distress on the water, minutes count, even in warm climates. Edited February 19, 2015 by shadow 9 Link to post Share on other sites
daenselot 79 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I heard that in the same village, there was a boat going out a couple of months ago and experienced a motor failure. They stranded 3 days later in Mindanao. From my experience in this country, its a wonderful place, as long as everything is ok, means no sicknes and no trouble whatsoever. But when authorities come into play, oh man... if a similar thing happened to my family, id offer 1-2 Mio. Pesos for finding them alive... Money talks here and thats a fact. I hope they are all ok. Link to post Share on other sites
oztony 36,116 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 If this case had not been kept as such a secret, I may have towed my boat to Siaton and gone fishing myself, just to have more eyes on the water. I'm only an hour away. At that point I could have been a DAY ahead of the authorities. When you are in distress on the water, minutes count, even in warm climates. Larry , this is my point on this matter , someone as yourself who has been boots on the ground there for 12 years is going to have a relevant opinion and advice that others just cannot give , this is right on your doorstep, and local thinking is only understood by those that have spent the time there.(and even then it is still a battle) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 55,114 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Was searching around and found this bit of information. (Tim (from Memphis), take a look at the author.) http://philippineslifestyle.com/blog/2015/02/19/american-national-5-others-go-missing-negros-oriental-waters/ The Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) has launched a search and rescue mission for an American and 5 other people who have been missing since Saturday in waters near Barangay Maloh in Siaton, Negros Oriental. Coast Guard spokesperson Commander Arman Balilo identified the six missing persons as Elmer Sabroso, Roseldo Andid, Rey Benetes, Jovie Fundador, Cristina Andid, and Bradley Fugate, an American. They were on board a 28-foot pumpboat that sailed on Friday. According to Balilo, they got the information from PCG-Dumaguete after the boat owner reported that the six persons failed to return from their fishing trip last Friday. PCG immediately dispatched BRP Batangas and a light utility aircraft to look for the victims. The agency has also released a Notice to Mariner to inform other seafarers on the incident. Local officials have coordinated with the local government units of Palawan and Malaysia, where the pumpboat may have strayed. The US Embassy has also been notified about the missing American. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
daenselot 79 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Type "Top 10 sea survivors" into google. Dunno if im allowed to post links here Longest was 9 months 3 people survived on a fishing boat. During the first 2 nights there were some thunder storms in the area so hopefully they were able to collect loads of water. Also let's hope they are able to catch plenty of fish. The liquid inside the fish is drinkable and can save their lifes... Ive just seen another helicopter leaving Dumaguete about 1 hour ago. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bill H 6,575 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 How long was it before the German couple was acknowledged to be held for ransom? A couple of weeks as I remember it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
cvgtpc1 2,170 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) I think what the family may have meant was they didn't want' potential kidnappers seeing personal info about Brad and them that could somehow jeopardize things. This could be FBI protocol and they're working with the family now. Edited February 19, 2015 by cvgtpc1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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