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Why not? I don't need a forum to read facts, those are easily obtainable from news and official sources. 

Please stop all those theories and speculations until some more information is available

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Crap!  Just get on the plane when it is your time to go, it's time to go.

 

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AirAsia flight QZ8501 search area expanded

 

Such a largening search area.   Did that air-craft not hit the water then in one piece ?  One would think if it did come down complete the debris field would be only quite small. I mean like a square mile or so the most? 

 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30692223

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Not if the ocean currents in that area are strong and it broke apart on/after impact.

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Not if the ocean currents in that area are strong and it broke apart on/after impact.

 

Yes true. 

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Not if the ocean currents in that area are strong and it broke apart on/after impact.

 

I just come across this news article confirming it.

 

Indonesian officials believe they may have located the tail and parts of the fuselage of AirAsia flight QZ8501 at the bottom of the Java Sea but strong currents, high winds and big waves have hindered attempts to investigate the debris.

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AirAsia flight QZ8501: Tail of plane found, Indonesia's search and rescue chief says

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23 minutes agoWed 7 Jan 2015, 3:33pm

Search teams looking for underwater wreckage from crashed AirAsia flight QZ8501 have located the tail of the aircraft, the section where the crucial black box flight recorders are housed, Indonesia's search and rescue agency chief says.

Bambang Soelitsyo, the chief of Basarnas, Indonesia's search and rescue agency, told reporters in Jakarta recovery teams found the tail of the plane in the Java Sea.

"We have successfully obtained part of the plane that has been our target. The tail portion has been confirmed found," he said.

AirAsia group chief executive Tony Fernandes acknowledged the announcement in a post on his Twitter account.

"I am led to believe the tail section has been found. If right part of tail section then the black box should be there," he tweeted.

"We need to find all parts soon so we can find all [our] guests to ease the pain of our families. That still is our priority."

 

Flight QZ8501 plunged into the water off Borneo island on December 28, about 40 minutes into a two-hour flight from Indonesia's second-biggest city Surabaya en route to Singapore.

Despite a huge recovery operation assisted by various countries, progress has been patchy, with poor weather conditions hampering the search.

Forty bodies and debris from the plane have been plucked from the surface of the waters off Borneo, but strong winds and high waves have prevented divers from reaching larger pieces of suspected wreckage detected by sonar on the sea floor.

The search for wreckage had been focused on an area about 90 nautical miles off Borneo, where ships using sonar located five large objects believed to be parts of the plane – the largest about 18 metres long – in shallow water on Sunday.

Mr Soelistyo said a total of 12 objects had now been found, but he did not confirm whether all were parts of the aircraft.

Parts of fuselage thought to be among wreckage

The wreckage is thought to also include parts of the fuselage, where many of the bodies of victims may still be trapped.

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Some interesting conclusions are being drawn, including that the pilot managed to safely ditch the plane on the water's surface, but the plane was overcome by high waves during evacuation:

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/qz8501-airasia-plane-may/1562394.html

 

 

JAKARTA: As search teams hunt for the black boxes of AirAsia Flight QZ8501, analysts say the pilot may have managed to make an emergency water landing, only for the plane to be overcome by high seas. 

The Airbus A320-200 left the Indonesian city of Surabaya early Sunday and disappeared from radar over the Java Sea during a storm, but it failed to send the transmissions normally emitted when a plane crashes or is submerged. Experts say this suggests the experienced former air force pilot, Captain Irianto, conducted an emergency water landing which did not have a destructive impact.

"The emergency locator transmitter (ELT) would work on impact, be that land, sea or the sides of a mountain, and my analysis is it didn't work because there was no major impact during landing," said Dudi Sudibyo, a senior editor of aviation magazine Angkasa. "The pilot managed to land it on the sea's surface," he added.

The plane, carrying 162 people to Singapore, was cruising at a height of 32,000 feet when the pilot requested a change of course to avoid storms. Although permission was granted to turn left, the pilot was not immediately allowed to ascend owing to heavy air traffic, and the plane disappeared from radar soon afterwards.

Some analysts have suggested the plane stalled because it was travelling too slowly or climbed too steeply. It is unclear why there was no mayday distress signal from the cockpit.

Indonesia's search team scoured the sea for more than 48 hours before the first debris was spotted off the island of Borneo after a tip-off from fishermen.

MID-AIR EXPLOSION UNLIKELY

So far the search team has found eight bodies which appear to be intact. "The conclusions I have come to so far are that the plane did not blow up mid-air, and it did not suffer an impact when it hit a surface, because if it did so then the bodies would not be intact," Chappy Hakim, a former air force commander, told AFP.

The fuselage is also thought to be largely intact after aerial searchers saw a "shadow" on the seabed, where operations are now being focused. An emergency exit door and an inflatable slide were among the first items recovered by the search team, suggesting the first passengers may have started the evacuation process once the plane landed on water.

Former transport minister Jusman Syafii Djamal was convinced the discovery of the floating exit door meant "someone had opened it". Passengers may have been waiting for a flight attendant to inflate a life raft when a high wave hit the nose and sank the plane, Djamal added. "High waves may have hit the plane, the nose, and sunk the plane."

Flight safety standards require that all passengers can be evacuated from a plane in 90 seconds. The cause and more details of the crash will remain unclear until investigators find the all-important black boxes, which will answer questions such as why the underwater locator beacon did not work.

Experts from France and Singapore have joined Indonesian transport safety investigators in their hunt for wreckage of the plane operated by AirAsia Indonesia, a unit of Malaysia-based AirAsia which previously had a good safety record. If found, the cockpit voice recorder should detail the conversations of the pilots for the whole of the short flight and reveal their last moments. "We can only find out from the black box," said Sudibyo.

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The cause and more details of the crash will remain unclear until investigators find the all-important black boxes,

 

The answers maybe in these boxes.

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We have pings...

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/09/us-indonesia-airplane-idUSKBN0KG09L20150109

 

(Reuters) - Indonesia search and rescue teams hunting for the wreck of an AirAsia passenger jet have detected pings in their efforts to find the black box recorders, Santoso Sayogo, an investigator at the National Transportation Safety Committee, told Reuters on Friday.

Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501 vanished from radar screens on Dec. 28 less than half way into a two-hour flight from Indonesia's second-biggest city of Surabaya to Singapore. There were no survivors among the 162 people on board.

Indonesian search teams loaded lifting balloons on to helicopters on Friday ahead of an operation to raise the tail section of the jet, although Sayogo said it appeared that the black box was no longer in the tail and divers were confirming its position.

 

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Sayogo said it appeared that the black box was no longer in the tail and divers were confirming its position.

 

Hmmm...mystery continues.

 

  Read somewhere the are very strong currents in region. apparently tail section something like 18km`s from other bits.

 

Suppose anything could have happened ?  But very strange of no pings detected.

 

 Are these boxes fitted as part of the plane or as an accessory? 

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