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Striking another blow to the oil and gas industries, an American solar company has developed technology that can produce super-efficient solar power that’s cheaper than fossil fuels. Rayton Solar’s new solar panel manufacturing technology uses 50 to 100 times less silicon than other technologies, cutting out large amounts of the most costly component of solar panels. The company says its patent-pending process uses just four microns worth of silicon, leaving no waste – while boosting efficiency to 24 percent. That’s 25 percent higher than industry standard efficiency, according to the company LINK 
 

 

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Are they currently available?  If so where and at what cost?

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A_Simple_Man

 

 

while boosting efficiency to 24 percent. That’s 25 percent higher than industry standard efficiency, according to the compan

 

Sounds good . . .. .  until you read the comments and find out the Aussies are Waaaaaaay ahead:

 

Researchers at the University of New South Wales and the Australian renewable energy agency (ARENA) have cracked the 40% mark in a photovoltaic system without using concentrator technology

 

 

http://www.renewablesinternational.net/australians-break-through-the-40-efficiency-mark/150/452/84150/

 

Good on ya!

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David_LivinginTalisay

Are they currently available?  If so where and at what cost?

 

 

Not until after they get the US$250,000 FUNDING they need to make it a commercial reality!

 

 
$2,259USD
RAISED OF $250,000 GOAL
 
1%
 35 days left
This campaign started on Dec 16 and will close on January 30, 2015 (11:59pm PT)

 

 

 

USE OF FUNDS

The funds from this campaign will go to finalizing design on our solar panel which can then go through UL certification. Once certified we can begin selling these panels and start the push to improve our lives and the environment.

​By helping us you are helping secure the future of solar energy. 

 

 

Donate $25 to help them reach reach their Target and get a T-Shirt:-

 

$25USD
Solar Electron - Tshirt Change
You combine with others to create a living breathing thriving company that can make cheap solar a reality! You will receive a Rayton Solar Tshirt for your contribution!
Estimated delivery: April 2015

Or at the other end ot th scale, donate US$5,000:-

 

$5,000USD
Solar Sun = Fly You Out Change
You are the center of the solar system as all energy is created by you! You will receive roundtrip airplane tickets from your hometown to see our particle accelerator in action and will be wined and dined by our executive team!
Estimated delivery: April 2015
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LOL

 

"No, it's revolutionary, just ask us"

 

Why are angel investors in the field not knocking down their door?

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LOL

 

"No, it's revolutionary, just ask us"

 

Why are angel investors in the field not knocking down their door?

 

I'll take a shot at this. Because it is BS?

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Sounds good . . .. .  until you read the comments and find out the Aussies are Waaaaaaay ahead:

 

http://www.renewablesinternational.net/australians-break-through-the-40-efficiency-mark/150/452/84150/

 

Good on ya!

 

 

Except its a bit more complicated then that... a 40% efficient cell that costs twice as much as a 25% efficient cell isn't going to be a good bargain, so without knowing post production cost one isn't really better then the other.  It also appears they use way more silicon then these panels, mass production of these would most likely cause the price of silicon to rise dramatically and make the efficiency savings even less.  

 

Not to mention results achieved in a lab setting aren't always easily translated into a production product so theres no telling if we'll ever see these at all.  

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When are these "We are saving the world' publishers going to realize that presenting such rubbish and other unproven claims, is destroying the alternative energy industry. Solar and wind have been over sold and over stated to the point that many serious investors won't touch it with a 40' pole.

They need to stick to PROVEN facts and not just supply the dreamers with fantasies.

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I'll take a shot at this. Because it is BS?

 

 

When are these "We are saving the world' publishers going to realize that presenting such rubbish and other unproven claims, is destroying the alternative energy industry. Solar and wind have been over sold and over stated to the point that many serious investors won't touch it with a 40' pole.

They need to stick to PROVEN facts and not just supply the dreamers with fantasies.

 

It could very well be real, but I suspect the issue is at least partly that there are still significant hurdles to economical mass production of the material and it therefore is a huge risk. That's to be expected, but yes, what is counter productive is the failure to realistically state the risks so the uninformed (which is who they are courting) can do reasonable risk assessment. 

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       There is a lot of investment money out there looking for good investments. Interest rates are at record lows, so if this were looking good, the investors would beat there doors down. Really either one, the American or the Australian. Less government involvement generally makes it a better investment. But often the math involves a government subsidy of some sort that is only guaranteed annually. Then they use a 20 year or longer pay off. The asking for donations is not a good sign.

       All that said, I do like to see the technology is improving. Remember, if you cover a roof with these, and they are soaking up solar energy, they are also cooling the space below them. And here in the tropics that should be a lot of energy, almost 50% of the time. Even on cloudy days, a lot of energy still reaches the ground. But it is dark half the time. We also got the wind issue. It would sell better with a 200 kph rating. Anyway, I will be likely to install these if they ever do sell at a competitive price. And I sure do not expect the Philippine electric rates to go down, or to ever improve there service.

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When are these "We are saving the world' publishers going to realize that presenting such rubbish and other unproven claims, is destroying the alternative energy industry

 

You have supplied your own answer here.  Publishers 'publisher' and the alternative energy industry provides energy.  They are at cross purposes and the publishers are only interested in readership.

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I thought I had seen thin film solar b4, after seeing the promo video i got the impression they where alone on the marked..

 

Lots of solar going around however I cant see any of the good members here using it (thin film that is), how come?? 

 

Thinfilm Solar  is not a new think, it has been around for years, maybe this ones selling point is production method. 

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Why are angel investors in the field not knocking down their door?

 

Because they are asking for "donations"...NOT investors. Investors share ownership (some control and input into the decision-making process) and at some point want a return on their investment. Donations, on the other hand, are "free" money that doesn't have to be paid back or require any kind of return (except a t-shirt in this case). Donations can't be withdrawn after they have been given, but investments can. With investors, you send them share certificates or sign contracts. With those who donate, you send them a "thank you" note and a t-shirt. These people would obviously rather have "free" money (and be able to retain total ownership, control and profits for themselves) than money with strings attached.

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Skywalker

It's not just about the bloody solar panels.

 

It's all the battery gubbins and electronics to monitor and regulate, and all the other tra-la-la that comes with being off the grid, or self sufficient, and that shit is expensive.

 

The solar panels are just the car body without the engine.

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