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Nangulo

 

 

All in all, we were very well behaved while ashore.  Why?...because getting into trouble = going on report  = Captain's Mast = disciplinary action!

 

= no more liberty.

 

You forgot that part.  

 

The worst I can remember was in 1979.  Martial Law was in effect.  I walked out of a bar on Magsaysay at 0001 with escort in tow.  Dang, if the Shore Patrol wasn't right there to pick me up and take me back to the Naval Base at Subic, and the lady of the evening was sorely saddened at her loss of income.  But I didn't put up a stink about it.  The only reason I didn't have liberty the next night was because I had duty.  

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He asked me why I was such a strong supporter of military personnel. He was, obviously anti-military / anti-US, and said he refused to join the forum because of my view concerning military members. He

I am one of those 'bleeding heart' anti gun people. Further, neither I or my family have a military background. However I give all branches of the service my wholehearted support. I'm also an atheist

Thanks Paul.  You know, I remember the first time someone thanked me for my service and it really caught me off guard.  I was stunned speechless.  Now I try to remember to pass that on to others inclu

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I did more than a few nights on shore patrol in Subic, usually it was pretty uneventful.

 

I wonder if Club Oro is still there :yahoo:

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Humboldt

Queen of England , more fights have been fought in her honor then anyone else on the face of the Earth

best learn a little history before drinking with the Royal Navy ..

 

long live the Queen I'll drink to that , I'm a peace maker not a fighter lol

unlike my ancestors ..

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= no more liberty.

 

You forgot that part.  

 

The worst I can remember was in 1979.  Martial Law was in effect.  I walked out of a bar on Magsaysay at 0001 with escort in tow.  Dang, if the Shore Patrol wasn't right there to pick me up and take me back to the Naval Base at Subic, and the lady of the evening was sorely saddened at her loss of income.  But I didn't put up a stink about it.  The only reason I didn't have liberty the next night was because I had duty.  

 

Subic was the one place you welcomed duty for time to recover!   :lazy:  

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This surprised me

 

The seven uniformed services are, in order of precedence by ceremonial formation:[5]

  1. United States Army DOD
  2. United States Marine Corps DOD
  3. United States Navy DOD
  4. United States Air Force DOD
  5. United States Coast Guard United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
  6. United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
  7. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Officer Corps United States Department of Commerce (DOC)
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Humboldt

I remember you shore patrol guys Subic 81-84

you always looked like you wanted to bust me in the head w/your batons ..

 

I wasn't even in the military , merchant marines ( MSC )

didn't get to far off base , that hole in the wall bar ...

 

which one of you guys called in that strip search on me ,, getting back on base .. to rude lol

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He asked me why I was such a strong supporter of military personnel. He was, obviously anti-military / anti-US, and said he refused to join the forum because of my view concerning military members. Here is my reply to him:

 

 

 

No better time than now, to make it a point to thank ALL of the members of this site who served their respective countries. Thank you for your service. You will always have my respect and support. 

Thank you Paul ---- your answer was a lot nicer than i would have said----how things in Cambodia----Havent been back but want to go again---Wife didnt realy like me taking trip but ooooooooowell-----Phil

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I am one of those 'bleeding heart' anti gun people. Further, neither I or my family have a military background. However I give all branches of the service my wholehearted support. I'm also an atheist but will attend church once a year for our Remembrance Service. It's the least I can do to show solidarity with those who did lose their lives for my security.

 

During the first Gulf War I was in Riyadh and had the opportunity to entertain some of the US troops. My only expectation was based on media stories of drug crazed GIs in Vietnam - you know the type of thing. I was surprised how professional, well behaved and courteous the troops were, not at all like the stereotype of the media. I was particularly touched when my Filipina wife walked into the room and all the guys stood up. I also observed their behaviour around town: exemplary. It's a pity that the whole service can be tainted by one incident such as happened in Olongapo.

 

Paul, you did right. Your reply says it all. Quite why the person contacted you in the first place is bewildering.

 

No need to have a disclaimer about being anti-gun/bleeding heart before saying you support the military.

 

I count myself as proudly bleeding heart/pro-reasonable gun control, and I did my four years (though it seems us soldiers may be outnumbered by the marines on this site).  I may be in the minority, but I don't think it's an overwhelming minority by any means. 

 

Disagreeing about policy is never (in my mind, at least) grounds for being disrespectful, least of all to someone who's willing to put his life on the line for others.  I think most people feel this way, and unfortunately a few bad apples/media whores/folks looking to sell a paper or two spoil the tenor of the discussion for the rest of us. 

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rainymike

I'm a vet and pretty liberal on some views. Pretty conservative on others. I don't begrudge a person for being anti-war or a liberal. I don't find anything wrong with criticizing the military or American foreign policy when its deserving of criticism. I kind of figure that's why young men go off to fight wars.

 

The only thing I find objectionable is when someone blindly adopts a doctrine either to the left or to the right and assumes that if you're not with them you're in the wrong. America is a strong country. Got that way because it can take the criticism and learn from it. Countries that can't take the criticism or try to shut people up eventually find themselves going down the tubes. When we start banning people for criticizing the country or for the wrong political views, then I think we're going down that wrong path and have the wrong kind of patriotism.

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When we start banning people for criticizing the country or for the wrong political views, then I think we're going down that wrong path and have the wrong kind of patriotism.

 

Do understand now, I didn't banned this guy. He said that he wouldn't join this forum because of my views and my support of the military members of this site. But, I agree with you. I will not ban members because of their political views. If I did, there would only be conservatives here. :D 

With that said, I will not tolerate military personnel (from any allied country on this site) being attacked by other members. They get treated like shit by others around the world already. That will not happen here. 

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Do understand now, I didn't banned this guy. He said that he wouldn't join this forum because of my views and my support of the military members of this site. But, I agree with you. I will not ban members because of their political views. If I did, there would only be conservatives here. :D

With that said, I will not tolerate military personnel (from any allied country on this site) being attacked by other members. They get treated like shit by others around the world already. That will not happen here. 

Yeah, I know. The guy made his choice and that's fine by me. Although I think his reasoning is pretty shallow.

 

LOL ... but you now know where people think I'm considered very liberal - around freedom of speech issues. And although that gets me classified as a leftist more often than not, Although with my sense of history - I think it really puts me in the conservative camp.

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Nothing worse than sitting in the middle of a desert (in conus) as the gulf war kicks off, and hearing your Senior Senator criticizing the War and even our unit.

 

I am pretty sure it cost Sam Nunn his seat and a shot at the presidency. He did not run the next term.

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ridiculing, disliking, exploiting and discriminating against the military has been going on for centuries...

 

In addition to seconding Paul's response, I would have pointed the reluctant non-member to Kipling...

 

...

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
    Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
    But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
    The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
    O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

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I'm doing some work in the US at the moment. On a recent trip back to Toronto and while connecting in Atlanta, I overheard a comment from a passer-by to a group of young servicemen and women in uniform - "thank you for your service". I was most impressed.

 

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