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Bob, yes it's 3 words per post. But you can be creative and do something like this...

 

 

 

The other animals were killed by the cockroaches, who bought

 

Ang lain nga hayop gipatay ni og ok-ok, kinsa man ang nagpalit

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Ces

The other animals were killed by the cockroaches, who bought the poison from

 

Ang lain nga hayop gipatay ni og ok-ok, kinsa man ang nagpalit ng lason sa

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Balay
That's right. 'si' is used before names. But not all the time. Sometimes you use 'kay'(means 'to' in English).

Proper nouns like names of places? You can't use 'si' before them, they're only for names of people or animals.

 

In the case of plurals. It's better to just write 'Sila Joe ug Joe'

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

So for places what should I use as the 1st class maker fo names of places ? Sa ? ( Sa Mandaue, Sa Cebu City, Ect )

 

Is 'Sila Joe ug Joe' the shortened version of 'Sila si Joe ug si Joe' ? Would it be considered wrong if I used 'Sila si Joe ug si Joe' ? ( either written of spoken )

 

I understand the shortened versions are understood but if I was "trying" to speak "proper" Cebuano would I use the extended version ?

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Bet_Busta
The other animals were killed by the cockroaches, who bought the poison from

 

Ang lain nga hayop gipatay ni og ok-ok, kinsa man ang nagpalit ng lason sa

 

"Hayop" (as it is used here) and "ng lason" is Tagalog. Since the original is in Bisayan/Cebuano, let's continue in Bisayan:

 

Ang lain nga mananap gipatay ug ok-ok. Kinsa man ang nagpalit sa hilo gikan.....

 

Lessons:

 

"Ni" and "ug" should not be used together. "Ni" would conote a proper noun so "Ok-ok" is capitalized as in a name of

a person. "Ug" is "ok-ok" is common noun.

 

"Hilo" should be pronounced fast. If it is pronounced slow emphasizing the first syllable as in "HI-lo",

it would mean sewing thread.

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Balay
Bob, yes it's 3 words per post.

 

Are markers considered Words ?

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Bob Ward
Bob, yes it's 3 words per post.

 

Are markers considered Words ?

 

Good question, but someone with more Cebuano experience will have to answer. LOLOL

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Ces
So for places what should I use as the 1st class maker fo names of places ? Sa ? ( Sa Mandaue, Sa Cebu City, Ect )

 

There are 2 prepositions for 'in'.

1 Sa - used if there's a verb, any tense, in the sentence.

Nagpuyo ko sa Cebu.

I lived in Cebu

 

2 Nasa - used for indicating location.

Nasa Cebu ang balay namo.

Our house is in Cebu.

 

Nasa balay ang iring.

The cat is in the house.

 

 

Would it be considered wrong if I used 'Sila si Joe ug si Joe' ? ( either written of spoken )

 

No.

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Ces
Bob, yes it's 3 words per post.

 

Are markers considered Words ?

 

Balay, will you just add to the story :P Write anything and strat practicing.

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Balay
Balay, will you just add to the story :o Write anything and strat practicing.

 

 

I did... but you didn't notice it.

 

It true Cebuano form.. I shortened it so much... it is now nothing. :lol:

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AngelofBroden
Balay, will you just add to the story :as-if: Write anything and strat practicing.

 

 

I did... but you didn't notice it.

 

It true Cebuano form.. I shortened it so much... it is now nothing. :)

 

:lol: Now you are learning Cebuano, hahaha!

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generbee
There are 2 prepositions for 'in'.

1 Sa - used if there's a verb, any tense, in the sentence.

Nagpuyo ko sa Cebu.

I lived in Cebu

 

2 Nasa - used for indicating location.

Nasa Cebu ang balay namo.

Our house is in Cebu.

 

Nasa balay ang iring.

The cat is in the house.

No.

 

 

 

just a comment... i think "nasa" is a tagalog word. the correct word in bisaya is " naa sa". but mind you bisdaks are toungue-lazy persons thus they tend to shorten words like the example above.

 

other common lazy word

 

balay - ba'y (house)

ulan - uan (pronounced uwan) (rain)

 

 

ill get back for some lazy words.......

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Ces, I was under the impression that Nasa is Na'a Sa... or its a different expression? Or is this a well-accepted contraction? Thanks!

 

 

RE: There are 2 prepositions for 'in'.

1 Sa - used if there's a verb, any tense, in the sentence.

Nagpuyo ko sa Cebu.

I lived in Cebu

 

2 Nasa - used for indicating location.

Nasa Cebu ang balay namo.

Our house is in Cebu.

 

Nasa balay ang iring.

The cat is in the house.

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Angie
"Hayop" (as it is used here) and "ng lason" is Tagalog. Since the original is in Bisayan/Cebuano, let's continue in Bisayan:

 

Ang lain nga mananap gipatay ug ok-ok. Kinsa man ang nagpalit sa hilo gikan.....

 

Lessons:

 

"Ni" and "ug" should not be used together. "Ni" would conote a proper noun so "Ok-ok" is capitalized as in a name of

a person. "Ug" is "ok-ok" is common noun.

 

"Hilo" should be pronounced fast. If it is pronounced slow emphasizing the first syllable as in "HI-lo",

it would mean sewing thread.

 

Hi pipz! I know this is an old thread but I just want to add more to the use of the particles "ni" and "ug"

 

The meaning of "ni" will depend on the way it is used in the sentence.

ex. Ang mama ni Nina maestra. - Ni is used here as a genitive, denoting possession, Nina's mother is a teacher.

 

Ni is also a tense marker which can be used in both present and past tenses.

Ni is used with verbs of short duration or momentary (movement verbs, go, walk, buy) thus making little difference. If the action is done in the past, use time markers; ganina, gahapon, gabi-i.

ex. A: Asa man si Bret? A: Di-in man ka gahapon?

B: Niadto siya sa gym. B: Niadto ko sa gym.

 

Ni is the short for "kini" which means this. ex. Tagpila ni? How much is this?

 

Ug can have a lot of meanings too, depending on the context.

 

1. basically used as "and"

ex. Ang inahan ug ang anak wala niuli gabi-i. The mother and the child didn't come home last night.

 

2. sometimes used as the article "a"/an, the indefinite pronoun "some"

ex. Nipalit ko ug payong. I bought an umbrella.

ex. Nipalit si Keith ug isda. Keith bought some fish.

 

3. used with adjectives or adverbs of manner

ex. Nihilak siya ug kalit. She suddenly cried.

 

4. used between an adjective and a noun meaning "have/has"

ex. Nindot ug tingog ang bata. The child has a nice voice.

 

If you have questions in mind, feel free to ask me. :)

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