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Building Using Insulated Roof Panels.

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Hy H

He might be planning floor to ceiling bi-fold doors or windows for the balcony end where beam overhang is.  That reason why no post there. If that the case , you definitely do not want any sag in truss above it. 

 

  Earlier he did mention not following any plans for the truss design.    Double up on end trusses.. maybe enough ?

 

 Hard to say without knowing actual roof weight.  Looking at pictures and std of work done there, I`m sure he is well aware.

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He might be planning floor to ceiling bi-fold doors or windows for the balcony end where beam overhang is.  That reason why no post there. 

 

Well, he won't cover the whole wall with a single sheet of glass, so there have to be dividers. Those dividers can be structural, which will support the end trusses

 

If that the case , you definitely do not want any sag in truss above it. 

 

Exactly. If there is any sag, it will break whatever glass is under it. However, more importantly, if the weight of the roof causes sagging, the trusses will eventually fail.

 

Earlier he did mention not following any plans for the truss design.    Double up on end trusses.. maybe enough ? Hard to say without knowing actual roof weight. Looking at pictures and std of work done there, I`m sure he is well aware.

 

The strength needed is vertical, not horizontal. Doubling the truss won't do much good. The part that I worry about is the bottom horizontal member of the trusses. They just don't look beefy enough (vertically) to me. The rest of the truss doesn't really need to be too beefy, but the way the truss is configured, all of the downward forces are directed to the center of the horizontal member. Like I said, if it fails, it would be catastrophic.

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riklynbor

Hi again, love all the feedback i receive during the day.

I will try answer all questions. There will be a 100 x 100 steel supporting post mid way.

I listen to your feedback and i take it all in thank you.

The front truss must be deceptive as the base is 100 x 75 x 5mm RHS the outer frame is made of 50mm x 5 mm angle bar. The plan this far due to your concerns is to keep a active eye on the truss as we start loading on the panels starting at the rear.

I weigh 100kg and guess the other two pinoy workers would weigh 100kg together. All 3 of us were standing on the front truss while adjusting the webbed truss and bolting it in place without any feeling of weakness. I have build many trusses in Australia without any problems. 

Yes i am hoping to have folding glass doors at the front. It is only 7.2 meter wide opening.

If there is any sign of sag in the front truss I would sadly put in a central post but I am quietly confident in my truss. We shall see during the next week. I have 0 concerns about rear truss as it sits on a concrete beam 400 x250mm along its full length. I saw a mention of the roof slope and it is 1.5m over 4.0m.

 

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oztony

So would we say near enough to 20 degree pitch ?

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I weigh 100kg and guess the other two pinoy workers would weigh 100kg together. All 3 of us were standing on the front truss while adjusting the webbed truss and bolting it in place without any feeling of weakness. I have build many trusses in Australia without any problems. 

 

Just seeing your location on side of a hill.  Looks great with unobstructed views.

 

 I think I was fairly close with my 20 degree guess for the pitch.

 

Mate not trying to tell you it will not hold but like HS mentioned it might be an idea to have someone calculate what your materials together in shape that they are would actually take as in weight.  Then add wind uplift / loading factor to it and double it for your exposed location. If I`m correct about your location it being very much within a pathway for local cyclonic conditions. 

 

Be a brick of a job to rectify it once you have loaded it up. Not to mention if it buckles the replace, rectify or worst case build again.

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riklynbor

Yep some nice views alright can sit upstairs just looking. 

 

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Hy H

Got you own choco hills there mate.  Not bbaaad !

 

How`s your power, town water n poo tanks situations there?

 

  Looking likeable area for enough rainwater to live off? 

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riklynbor

We have power but a bit unreliable about 4 brown outs a week. No town water but put a bore with jetmatic in rear dirty kitchen and a submersible pump in bore out front. We all drink that water. Pouring small 4th floor slab for water tank tomorrow. You can see Sogod bay out back to the left.

Poo tank and plumbing all taken care of.

 

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Yep some nice views alright can sit upstairs just looking. 

 

Nice? If I had those views, I might never come down from the third floor.

We have power but a bit unreliable about 4 brown outs a week. No town water but put a bore with jetmatic in rear dirty kitchen and a submersible pump in bore out front. We all drink that water. Pouring small 4th floor slab for water tank tomorrow. You can see Sogod bay out back to the left.

 

When you say "bore" I take it you mean you had wells drilled?

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riklynbor

Yes one is 60 feet the other 120 feet.

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With the unreliable power, a quiet backup generator would probably be a good idea...especially where you are using well water.

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Hy H

 

 

When you say "bore" I take it you mean you had wells drilled?

 

 

Same same.

 

Well water in Oz  is called bore water,  wells drilled / bores bored, both with a well rig.  LOL !

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riklynbor

With the unreliable power, a quiet backup generator would probably be a good idea...especially where you are using well water.

That is where the jetmatic comes in handy

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That is where the jetmatic comes in handy

 

Awwww...got it.

 

 

Ummm...what exactly is a Jetmatic, how does it work and how is it powered?

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riklynbor

Well a Jetmatic is an old-fashioned hand pump. We installed one in our dirty kitchen.

 

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oztony

Ah yes , the good ol dragon pump , have got one the same , most the guy's that do the well's there recommend them

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Ah yes , the good ol dragon pump , have got one the same , most the guy's that do the well's there recommend them

 

Easy enough to mechanise it with a flywheel and an appropriate sized motor if you want to, and still be able to hand pump in a brownout. Electric pumps are just a PITA when they break down.

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DeRail

you have been doing a wonderful job on your build. I see you put a lot of thought into what you wanted I am currently in the planning stages myself we have bought our lot in Valencia with a area of 1749 sqm. but before we build our home i want to build our wall for securty of our materials by my Calculations i will need almost 50K CHB just for the fence walls, but in reading other posts the quilaty of the CHB is not very good so i was planing on buying a CHB machine and manufacturing our own to get t a better block.

1,Where did you buy your machine?

2.what did you think of the quilaty of it and the product it produced?

3.On average how many blocks were your workers able to manufacture in a day?

thank you in advance

DeRail

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you have been doing a wonderful job on your build. I see you put a lot of thought into what you wanted I am currently in the planning stages myself we have bought our lot in Valencia with a area of 1749 sqm. but before we build our home i want to build our wall for securty of our materials by my Calculations i will need almost 50K CHB just for the fence walls, but in reading other posts the quilaty of the CHB is not very good so i was planing on buying a CHB machine and manufacturing our own to get t a better block.

1,Where did you buy your machine?

2.what did you think of the quilaty of it and the product it produced?

3.On average how many blocks were your workers able to manufacture in a day?

thank you in advance

DeRail

 

I purchased my machine online from Manila through sulit with the pan mixer. 

Machine was ok but motor position was quite bad and problematic so I modified it's position. We have no problems now.

We use a 1 to 5 mix which gives you 27 to 30 blocks per bag of cement. These are load bearing blocks.

I tried weaker mixes but was not happy with them.

2 workers with machine will make 300 or more in a 8 hour day. 

 

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May I suggest you put a temporary "leg" under the truss as insurance. Perhaps make it a bit short so you can tell if there is any deflection in the truss. Just a thought. It looks like you are doing a great job and have wonderful views. Enjoy mate.

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riklynbor

Not about panels but still roof. This is a small section next to the roof over the staircase. It will have the water tank on it. I guess you could say our 4th floor lol. We just finished pouring it 2 days ago.

 

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riklynbor

Well the plan was to go home on the weekend but there is so much happening at the building site now I am here I am staying another month. Just returned from extending my visa. More pictures tomorrow night. Rik

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Paul

I can't wait to see more images, mate.

 

Would you please post a couple / few images - wider view, showing the CHB machine? 

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riklynbor

I can't wait to see more images, mate.

 

Would you please post a couple / few images - wider view, showing the CHB machine? 

Ok buddy will do. 

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riklynbor

As requested

 

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