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tokyoman

Living across from MOA my GF and I shop and eat at MOA almost every day.  The other day I had lunch at pizza hit and entered in through the outside door to Pizza hut ( no check/security) . After lunch I went out through the exit leading into the mall and again I was not searched or checked by security.

 

Yesterday shots were fired inside the mall and there was a stampede towards the exits.....we all know that the security at malls are  a joke but MOA being a place with international tourists should have a better system. I guess MOA does not have the money to spend on an airport style security system so I believe its a matter of time before a terrorist strikes or an incident like yesterday occurs again.

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Jason S

MANILA, Philippines— Sunday won’t stop their nefarious activities.

A band of robbers armed with guns and hammers shot it out with Philippine police inside one of the world’s largest shopping malls Sunday, sending Manila shoppers scrambling for safety, police and witnesses said.

Waves of police commandos in bullet-proof vests and helmets and armed with assault rifles stormed the SM Mall of Asia (MOA), an AFP photographer saw, after the gang entered a jeweler’s shop inside.

Chief Superintendent Jose Erwin Villacorte, Southern Police District chief, said witnesses saw five to six men storm the mall, ransacking a jewelry store on the ground floor by destroying a display case with hammers around 7:30 p.m. Two men were seen smashing the glass cabinet of the jewelry store.

Hundreds of frightened shoppers, waiters and store clerks ran for dear life amid gunfire toward the exits of the nearly four-hectare (10-acre) complex of department stores, boutiques, restaurants and entertainment establishments by Manila Bay.

Supermarket locked

Philippine Daily Inquirer Lifestyle editor Poch Concepcion, who was shopping at MOA, said the mall’s supermarket was locked “due to security reasons.”

Office worker Stacy Mercado, 32, told Agence France Presse: “We were in the grocery when we heard gunshots. We ran for the door immediately and my wife nearly fell with our 10-month-old boy.”

“The security guards initially blocked us, apparently because they feared some of us would steal items off the shelves on our way out. But they were swept aside after another burst of gunfire,” he added as the family of three watched the unfolding police operation in early evening behind yellow police lines outside.

The AFP photographer said he saw several people screaming or crying, including parents who told him they had been separated from their children or other family members in the ensuing chaos.

“Mall [security personnel] are working with the PNP on the situation and no one was hurt from the incident,” Steven Tan, senior vice president for operations of the SM Supermalls, was quoted in the mall franchise’s official Twitter account.

‘No one seriously hurt’

One of the robbers fired shots to trigger a commotion among the people and distract the security guards, Villacorte said.

 

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Diners rush from a restaurant as an officer from the Philippines police moves towards the scene of an attempted robbery on a jewellery store inside one of the world’s largest shopping malls in Manila on March 30, 2014. One suspect was arrested in the resulting firefight, that caused hundreds of shoppers to stampede out of the mall. Police and the operators of the SM Mall of Asia said no one was seriously hurt in the incident. AFP

 

He said, “Four of our policewomen were able to give chase to the robbers,” in the course of which one suspect was arrested. The rest of the gang apparently escaped.

Police said no one was seriously hurt in the firefight.

Asked how much the robbers managed to take from the jewelry store, Villacorte said: “They could have scooped out jewelry from the glass cabinet.”

“This is a common tactic. These robbers would go into a shop and start smashing the display cases with a hammer to grab things inside,” Villacorte told local television station ABS-CBN in an interview.

Several other Manila shopping malls have been attacked in similar fashion in recent years, which led the interior ministry last December to ban Manila malls from selling hammers.

Opened in 2006, the Mall of Asia has 407,000 square meters (4.38 million square feet) of retail space, making it the country’s second-largest, as well as among the world’s largest, shopping destinations.

Mall of Asia is part of the SM Supermalls retail chain controlled by the family of Henry Sy, the Philippines’ richest man.


 

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Monsoon

Useless is giving them too much credit. How does a band of robbers get out of a mall that has guards posted at every exit (not to mention roving as well). 

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RedKing

Those sneaky robbers must have bought the hammers somewhere else before entering the mall.  Darn them!

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burnttoast

The security guards in Cebu see a white guy and go on high alert for some reason. Meanwhile, dozens of less than savory looking dongs fly in under the radar totally undetected.

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tokyoman

We really can't blame the security guards.....they do not have the time and equipment to check everyone like say in an airport

 

It's a mickey mouse system that they have which gives the public a false sense of protection

 

Improve it or do away with it completely?

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Enuff

The security guards in Cebu see a white guy and go on high alert for some reason. Meanwhile, dozens of less than savory looking dongs fly in under the radar totally undetected.

Total opposite for me. The male gaurds just smile and if I'm lucky enough to be checked by a female guard it usually a swipe across the back as I walk by. Once an extremely cute lady was working and I suggested a cavity search, wife said dear "she isn't a dentist".

 

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Monsoon

Total opposite for me. The male gaurds just smile and if I'm lucky enough to be checked by a female guard it usually a swipe across the back as I walk by. Once an extremely cute lady was working and I suggested a cavity search, wife said dear "she isn't a dentist".

 

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I always go through the female line if there is one. Usually good for a laugh.

 

Speaking of laughs, if youve ever gone through mall security with Paul - now that is some funny shit. He makes it a habit to hug the guard when he pats his back. I nearly pissed myself laughing the first time I saw him do it.

 

 

 

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stevensanph

 

“The security guards initially blocked us, apparently because they feared some of us would steal items off the shelves on our way out. 

 

 

Love it... a shoot out going on in the mall and the guards are more concerned about people shoplifting while trying to flee the gunfire.  SM security is a joke all over.  I had my wallet stolen in the local SM here - my wife laid it on the table, and just as she did I saw the thieving barsteward pick it up and beeline for the exit.  I shouted and ran after them - the guards all took note, but completely ignored the filipino legging it for the main exit of SM.  All the guard would have had to do was put his arm across the door way and he would have been caught.  

 

But oh No, the guy ran off into the car park and they stopped me instead.  

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smokey

We really can't blame the security guards.....they do not have the time and equipment to check everyone like say in an airport

 

It's a mickey mouse system that they have which gives the public a false sense of protection

 

Improve it or do away with it completely?

compared to how they check you in other countries at the mall they are at least trying to just think if there were NO guards

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contraman

Those sneaky robbers must have bought the hammers somewhere else before entering the mall.  Darn them!

As crazy as it may seem, I was offered a Tazer to purchase when I was last at MOA

Tazers, But, no hammers wtf

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roaddog

So you wanting airport type security at malls. Now you can enjoy your visit to mall as much as the visit to airport.

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thebob

compared to how they check you in other countries at the mall they are at least trying to just think if there were NO guards

 

How do they check you in other countries? Here is the only place I've seen the public searched going into a mall.

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tokyoman

So you wanting airport type security at malls. Now you can enjoy your visit to mall as much as the visit to airport.

I am saying why bother with the system as it is now?....So you think the present security system is about right? 

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Enuff

although the mall security guards don't prevent 100% of mall crime, I image that they deter some.

 

I cant see a mall security guard in the Philippines or any other country putting their life on the line.

 

just imagine what it would look like if they had no security guards..............

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