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Mikala

I do have mp3 files of Pimsleur's Learning Tagalog I course if anyone is interested. PM me if you want me to email them to you. I guess they could be downloaded from a torrent site also.

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The Philippines has too many languages.  It's really great that 99% of written language is in English, but I never learnt Cebuano because there wasn't enough television to watch to help me learn, and I never learnt Tagalog because it wasn't the local language.  I probably should have chosen to live in the north of the country, and just learnt Tagalog, but such intricacies are beyond a person who has never been overseas before.

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And if they still balk at giving you admiration, out comes your ivory cane and they get some sound thrashing. That should teach the miserable w-gs a lesson.

 

The American variation on the theme is beating one's chest as a gorilla would while thundering and braying" I'm an Ameeeeeeeeerican! We saved your a--es from the J-ps in World War Two so speak English you mother......er and be grateful that you don't have to speak Japanese!" Also works like magic and the locals stand at attention and snap "Yes, Sir!"

What an extremely biased, overgeneralized characterization of Americans!  So sad to hear, even worse to see in print--"joking" or not.  As an American who has thrived on adventure travel to over 100 countries, I can easily understand the negative point of view, but consider it very unpleasant, and not because it is directed at Americans, rather, because it is just so overgeneralized and so negative . . .  It is just ugly.

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Tagalog is the basic language in the Philippines! It's spoken in Filipino politics, movies, TV and radio stations nation wide and English
as well as Taglish :wink:
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I had an emotional reaction to an earlier characterization of American (but it could have been any group) that I thought was worth posting--at least to me.  Some times things that are said intended to be humorous can actually be propagating unfortunate thoughts or thought patterns to people who are susceptible to such negativity.

I was not intending to attack or flame the poster.  I will try to be more careful how I respond in the future.

I have reread this post and threads and truly like and appreciate the original question and the thoughtfulness put into it and the poster's follow-up thoughts.  I think it is an excellent question and discussion to have.

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I had an emotional reaction to an earlier characterization of American (but it could have been any group) that I thought was worth posting--at least to me.  Some times things that are said intended to be humorous can actually be propagating unfortunate thoughts or thought patterns to people who are susceptible to such negativity.

I was not intending to attack or flame the poster.  I will try to be more careful how I respond in the future.

I have reread this post and threads and truly like and appreciate the original question and the thoughtfulness put into it and the poster's follow-up thoughts.  I think it is an excellent question and discussion to have.

 

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as well as Taglish :wink:

 

I love how the television melodramas always have some really important thing in english "get out before I take this knife and end it all!!!" in the middle of Tagalog, it makes watching TV for a non-speaker mildly entertaining.

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I stick to English. It's the worlds language. I see no reason to spend all the time and money to learn a language just to impress some 10-20 people that I speak to who probably rather speak and improve their English anyway. Seems like a waste of time, esp if you live in the city like I do.

 

I see a few expats speak very fluent Cebuano/Tag and I have mixed feelings... not sure if they're super smart or super dumb.

 

And a lot of times I see the local who's being spoken to in Cebuano seem very uncomfortable and weirded out, like as though, as the OP put it, a horse was talking to them.

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If you socialise with a group of pinoys youd call true friends, then perhaps youll learn. 

I don’t think making an academic study of it is the right approach.  You have to be truly immersed.

 

Most foreigners drink with eachother and live a lifestyle that isn’t as communal as average local.  Nothin wrong with that, its what were used to.

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Yes if for no other reason than to exercise your brain.

 

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Learning a foreign language is not easy and takes time. If you're not into it, it's cool - you can easily survive just about everywhere in the Phils without understanding the first word of Cebuano or Tagalog. But to listen to the lame excuses offered against knowing the local language is somewhat pathetic. I liken it to a lazy loafer who's got a belly big enough to hide his lap criticizing all the "fools" that waste so much time going to the gym.

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