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Hmmmmmm.... a good start but how would we get rid of the other six?

 

Well you could split them up between criminals, gang members, and the Justice Department to give to Mexican drug lords. Then all the guns will be in the hands of criminals and crime will go up.

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the government would have to totally disarm themselves

And these things are going to protect you, how?  The bad guy beats down your door and is coming at you with a bolo, you think calling the Pulis will save you?  They will show up in time to mop up the

Careful of your interpretation of PTSD - I have been diagnosed with it  - it has become the catch all to allow label us as incompetent -for 46 years my wife has managed our finances and I unplugged th

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Well you could split them up between criminals, gang members, and the Justice Department to give to Mexican drug lords. Then all the guns will be in the hands of criminals and crime will go up.

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we could make crime against the law

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we could make crime against the law

That is a good idea. Lets start with Chicago where the gun crime rate is 3 times that of Mexico City and they have some of the toughest gun laws in the country.So we should try making crime illegal.

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Or just tell the government you gifted your guns to your wife. It doesn't mean that you can't still be the one to use them (and control the combination to the gun safe). You can even still hunt using guns "borrowed" from your wife. There isn't a state in the US that requires you to own a firearm before you can buy a hunting license.

They want to totally crap on this Veteran because he does not feel comfortable doing his finances on a computer...

 

 

Yet they seem they have no problem in many States letting any baboon off the street buy one...

 

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Or just tell the government you gifted your guns to your wife. It doesn't mean that you can't still be the one to use them (and control the combination to the gun safe). You can even still hunt using guns "borrowed" from your wife. There isn't a state in the US that requires you to own a firearm before you can buy a hunting license.

 

You can't legally hunt without a gun permit and I bet the government thought of that, too bad they weren't thinking when they implemented O'bummer's health care plan.

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You can't legally hunt without a gun permit and I bet the government thought of that, too bad they weren't thinking when they implemented O'bummer's health care plan.

 

That is wrong. I don't know of a single state where that is true. There is no law in any state that requires you to own the gun you hunt with or have a permit to carry (provided the gun isn't an assault weapon or a handgun and provided you don't conceal it). I have purchased many hunting permits, and they have NEVER asked for a gun permit. If you look in state hunting regulations, you will find that no gun permits are required for long guns (rifles and shotguns) unless they are assault weapons. Most states don't even require gun permits for assault rifles unless they have a full automatic feature.

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They want to totally crap on this Veteran because he does not feel comfortable doing his finances on a computer...

 

 

Yet they seem the have no problem is many States letting any baboon off the street buy one...

 

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That baboon is going to end up with a nice cut around its eye if it pulls the trigger.

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That is wrong. I don't know of a single state where that is true. There is no law in any state that requires you to own the gun you hunt with or have a permit to carry (provided the gun isn't an assault weapon or a handgun and provided you don't conceal it). I have purchased many hunting permits, and they have NEVER asked for a gun permit. If you look in state hunting regulations, you will find that no gun permits are required for long guns (rifles and shotguns) unless they are assault weapons. Most states don't even require gun permits for assault rifles unless they have a full automatic feature.

 

Then this is wrong?

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The only thing to hunt in Illinois anyway is rats. So as has been said before they have some of the most repressive gun laws and areas of the highest gun murder numbers in the US. Interestingly though a non citizen of Illinois does not need a FOID to hunt in the state.

 

Back to the OP this is going to be challenged as a violation of the due process section of the 5th amendment.

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I don't really get this. The title says he has PTSD. That should be a reason to keep him away from fire arms. I is a mental condition that can lead to some very random behaviour.

 

The letter says that he has been banned because of incompetence, it says nothing about him not being able to take care of his finances.

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I'm pretty sure this is not a new issue. It may make the headlines, at least on the Internet. Unless I am missing something, the issue has to do with competency and the veteran's ability to manage their affairs. It is not exclusive to handling finances. This is an issue going pretty far back and has become intertwined with various anti-gun legislation. It is not a creation of the VA.

 

Before I get flamed for this, I want to point out that I am not supporting any sort of right for the USA government to circumvent a citizen's constitutional rights.

 

More power.

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I don't really get this. The title says he has PTSD. That should be a reason to keep him away from fire arms. I is a mental condition that can lead to some very random behaviour.

 

The letter says that he has been banned because of incompetence, it says nothing about him not being able to take care of his finances.

 

 

Careful of your interpretation of PTSD - I have been diagnosed with it  - it has become the catch all to allow label us as incompetent -for 46 years my wife has managed our finances and I unplugged the toilet  cleared the snow and fixed the sink - so what.

 

i know I can't own a firearm but have been cleared if I want one. SURPRISE :rose:  

 

You'd still want me protecting you and your family instead of some lib who'd say an't my job.

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You'd still want me protecting you and your family instead of some lib who'd say an't my job.

 

I certainly wouldn't want you protecting me. I'd prefer that to be done by legislation, the rule of law, a strong legal system and the relevant authorities.

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I certainly wouldn't want you protecting me. I'd prefer that to be done by legislation, the rule of law, a strong legal system and the relevant authorities.

 

And these things are going to protect you, how?  The bad guy beats down your door and is coming at you with a bolo, you think calling the Pulis will save you?  They will show up in time to mop up the blood before it's thoroughly dry.....maybe.  The 12ga shot gun hanging on your wall out of the kids reach is what will save you!  It's not the governments job to save you, it's your job!

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The VA has been mistreating vets for years and they are getting worse.  I used to joke that VA health care is designed to kill you sooner so they VA does not have to pay you any more disability money.  Lately I've come to think maybe this isn't such a joke any more.  The VA like the IRS has become a political tool of a government out of control in search of power.

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