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All hilarious stuff.

How any non Asian can equate respect with wearing of western style long trousers in Asia seems to me to be mental gymnastics.

 

OK, immigration has a dress code so you abide by it, you don't have to be wedded to it.

 

Then again, what do I know - 'Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society.' Mark Twain.

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I would always wear long trousers at the BoI office anyway, regardless of whether or not they were enforcing any dress code.   I am the same when I go out in the evenings too. A couple of nights ago

Personally, I'll dress any way that makes the process go easily. I always prefer to have low paid govt employees feel good when I deal with them. They are less likely to screw over someone who "play

Actually I disagree, many of us laugh of this focus on being able to go to BI as a bum and homeless. For me, this total lack of respect!   Show some respect, then you have less trouble in this count

JSL-USMC

The late Johnny Carson, star of the Tonight Show on TV for many years once came into a club without a tie and was turned away. He went back to his room, put on a tie and went back barefooted. They showed him to his table.

 

I don't know what that has to do with anything but I thought it was funny. When in Rome...

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The late Johnny Carson, star of the Tonight Show on TV for many years once came into a club without a tie and was turned away. He went back to his room, put on a tie and went back barefooted. They showed him to his table.

 

I don't know what that has to do with anything but I thought it was funny. When in Rome...

I miss Johnny. He was a class act. Along with Ed.

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udonthani

 

 

And funnily enough, they call all applicants by all their names.  I think it's something they just read off the passports.  

they call me by my first name close up. 

 

when they read the name on the tannoy they use the full name but once I get to the counter they become more familiar and call me by the first name on the passport. I have after all been going to that office regularly for 10 years now, for much longer than you have, so it is not really surprising. 

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Each one of the dozen Filipino guys, almost all of whom were under 30, were wearing long trousers.

 

Good for them, maybe they can carry around a portable air conditioner for your friend. Not everyone is built for this heat. I've been here for 7 years now and it doesn't matter what I do my body refuses to be acclimatized to this place. If I go outside in long pants i will melt. I already melt with short sleeves and shorts. By the time i get to the mall (or wherever im going) in an aircon taxi my shirt is literally dripping with sweat. Not overweight. Just can't stand this fecking heat and humidity. Right now in my room i'm borderline sweating with a fan on highest setting and aircon pointed at me. Sometimes I can't even breath. Not to mention, I think you've been here to long as "Just cuz" is not a valid reason to do anything unless you're a filipino. I'm thinking maybe your logic has be acclimatized to this country along with your body.

 

If you can handle it, good for you. Not everyone can.

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I say bullcockadoodle. I have shorts and golf.shirts that cost more than my slacks. Ive seen people "dressed appropriately" at immigration that looked like bums. I can go to the post office in shorts, LTO, why not immigration? One shows respect for a country in their.actions, not by wearing slacks/trousers.

 

Hell, they use to have a guy that would sit out front with pants and shoes "for rent".

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OK, immigration has a dress code so you abide by it, you don't have to be wedded to it.

 

Well, technically, you do have to be wedded to it as they wouldn't let me get married without having sweat pour off my face wearing long sleeve shirt and pants. Tiny little aircon in the office of the guy was useless. 10 People standing around in a 5x5 room like an oven breathing in each others heat. There was a wet spot on my chest and back the size of a basketball. It looked great in the pictures, long pants, long shirt, tie, and my face dripping with sweat and a giant wet spot on my chest. Comfort is first. I will wear long shit if it's comfortable to do so. It will never be comfortable to do so here, so I never will.

 

Now that they've got rid of this rule i can finally throw away my pants. I can't count the number of times i've been bounced out of BI for wearing nice shorts and a shirt. Meanwhile they let homeless looking dudes in wearing rented pants and rented shoes. Only in the philippines! This rule had nothing to do with anything related to respect or looks. It was all about some d*ckless filipino wanting to bend over every foreigner that visits the country and stick his tiny little non-existant d*ck in their ass.

 

What do you find more reasonable an explanation? That a power mad filipino wanted to piss off on all the tourists and foreigners, or that it was about "respect"?

 

I got bounced out of the casino a couple times too for wearing shorts. What do I not look good enough to participate in the debauchery?

 

And with regards to koreans, japanese, etc, I've seen plenty of them wearing shorts all over the place.

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Good for them, maybe they can carry around a portable air conditioner for your friend. Not everyone is built for this heat. I've been here for 7 years now and it doesn't matter what I do my body refuses to be acclimatized to this place. If I go outside in long pants i will melt. I already melt with short sleeves and shorts. By the time i get to the mall (or wherever im going) in an aircon taxi my shirt is literally dripping with sweat. Not overweight. Just can't stand this fecking heat and humidity. Right now in my room i'm borderline sweating with a fan on highest setting and aircon pointed at me. Sometimes I can't even breath. Not to mention, I think you've been here to long as "Just cuz" is not a valid reason to do anything unless you're a filipino. I'm thinking maybe your logic has be acclimatized to this country along with your body.

 

If you can handle it, good for you. Not everyone can.

I do realise that not everyone can handle the heat. Also I realise I am quite unusual in that I can - considering I was brought up in temperate climes. I worked, and outside as well, in climates as hot or hotter than this before I ever came anywhere near soth east Asia. But in any case I think the difference between wearing t-shirt and shorts and wearing lightweight long trousers and shirt with collar geared to a tropical climate is totally negligible. If you can't handle the heat, you are going to be uncomfortable in both kinds of apparel, equally.

 

 

 

And with regards to koreans, japanese, etc, I've seen plenty of them wearing shorts all over the place.

you seem to be forgetting that they are foreigners just exactly the same as we are. And they come from more temperate climates with freezing cold winters just like many of us do. So it is hardly surprising that many of them dress inappropriately according to local norms, just like some of us can.

 

years I ago I remember being in Thailand when this came up was with a bunch of foreigners and I stated that you almost never see adult male Thais who aren't bums wearing shorts, certainly in cities (which is true ; you don't). Then one of them said oh look at that guy across the street he's Thai and he's wearing shorts.

 

well I walked over and talked to him. It turned out he wasn't Thai at all but a Japanese tourist. Or another time I was in Ubon Ratchathani and I saw what looked like a group of Thai tourists, mixed sexes, in shorts. They really stood out, from a distance. Again, I was curious enough to go up to them and talk to them to try to explain to myself the anomaly. It turned out that they weren't Thai at all either but second generation Lao-Americans (though not Hmong) from California.

 

you just have to accept that in south east Asia it is the norm for males and especially if they have any stake in society at all (i.e. they have jobs) to wear long trousers. That is just the way it is. It is not that difficult to get your head around it. Sure, you can wear shorts if you want and I do myself all the time. But when I do, I know that I am sticking out more than I otherwise would. When I wear long trousers, and especially at night, I know I blend in much better.

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I wear long pants here in Cebu. I guess i'm lucky as my father was born and raised in panama and I have his genes (no pun intended). the heat does not bother me though at night I do put the air on low sleeping only with underwear on.

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Living in Japan near 40 years I was expected to stick to a dress code. There clothes are like uniforms. But its a good code. Casual uniform is jeans. Holiday uniform is shorts. At home anything goes, the less the better. Old habits die hard and I still stick to it. Those with white bandy legs sure look like tourists to me!

I assure you it is common usage among quite a chunk of the English speaking world.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeveless_shirt Types of sleeveless shirtsAnother term, used in England, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, Nigeria, and New Zealand, is[/size] singlet.[/size]

Lol, that's black underwear he's wearing. My choice for gardening for sure.

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I think it all depends on the guard out front. Maybe he occasionally gets a cut from the guy who rents pants and shoes out front.

 

The do enforce the rule against Filipinas at times also. They wouldn't let my wife in last summer because she was wearing a skort which is half skirt and half shorts used for playing tennis.

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they are not enforcing it right now it is true. I got in in flip flops yesterday for the first time ever.

 

they have always enforced it on Filipinos. It is not just foreigners. Just last year I forgetfully turned up in flip flops as opposed to strap-around-the-back sandals, which are OK, and they wouldn't let me in. I was with a girl so I thought no problem she can go in for me. But she was wearing strapless sandals too, so they wouldn't let her in either.

 

I don't think the guy on the door is necessarily getting a cut from the shoe and trouser man.

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I wear long pants here in Cebu. I guess i'm lucky as my father was born and raised in panama and I have his genes (no pun intended).

Must be Levi's to last this long.

Lol, that's black underwear he's wearing. My choice for gardening for sure.

I certainly didn't need that image in my head.
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Just last year I forgetfully turned up in flip flops as opposed to strap-around-the-back sandals, which are OK, and they wouldn't let me in.

 

And these are the people who call you by your first name, and treat you like a long lost friend, whose been a regular visitor for more than 10 years.

 

:itsokay:

 

I've been a regular visitor there for nearly 3 years, they know me by all my names, and I have never been refused entry (or a visa for that matter).   :yahoo:  BUT you've been many more times than me.  Hmm  what does that tell you?

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I don't think the guy on the door is necessarily getting a cut from the shoe and trouser man.

 

And you know this how?  Are you a mind reader?   :cool:

 

You should have stopped after the first 3 words.

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