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udonthani

1000 dollars a month for just having an American kid

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udonthani

I was talking to a US expat the other night who has had a kid here by a local woman.

 

much to his own surprise as well as mine, he found out that he is entitled to a Communist-type handout from the government of the United States, for having a kid here.

 

WTF is this?

 

I thought WE in Europe were supposed to be the socialist ones?

 

turns out that Communism didnt' die with the Soviet Union. It just re-invented itself in the USA.

 

in Britain there is no friggin' way anybody would be entitled to that amount of money for just having a kid here. The most they could possibly hope for, and they might not even get that, is a bit of Child Benefit that would entitle them to about $120 a month.

 

is the US taxpayer aware that some overweight, balding, alcoholic sixty something bum can go into some bar on Fields and get some Samar bargirl up the duff and then get them, the US taxpayer, to fork out a thousand dollars a month for eighteen years?

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Majorsco

I haven't heard of this. What is the link or quote to back up the OP?

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udonthani

it is not the first time I've heard of this. A couple of other US expats in Cebu were discussing it as well a few weeks ago. Only the figure quoted that time was only seven hundred dollars a month, not a thousand.

 

but even $700 a month is enough to just propel somebody, just like that, into the top 20% of earners here.

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Majorsco

If true, and I doubt it, there are millions of children all over the world that would be collecting and it would be noticeable on the budget.

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USMC-Retired

He gets a Social Security Benefit for a child.  Example is you can get up to 80% of your retirement additional just for a child or called family benefit.  

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Majorsco

May be, but isn't there also a requirement for beneficiaries to be:

 

American citizens, or

 

Legal permanent residents living within the US.

 

Other social security benefits stop if these two conditions not met. I suspect the child benefit would be the same.

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KID

 

 

turns out that Communism didnt' die with the Soviet Union. It just re-invented itself in the USA. in Britain there is no friggin' way anybody would be entitled to that amount of money for just having a kid here. The most they could possibly hope for, and they might not even get that, is a bit of Child Benefit that would entitle them to about $120 a month

 

Probably the SS

 

In America we don't send our welfare babies on out of country vacations like one of your fellow Brits said your tax payers do-----lol

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dc3driver

My 2 kids get USA Social Security. They are known as "minor dependents of a retiree". Their combined payment about equals my benifit. All legal, a system I was forced to pay into for my entire working life.

They do not have to live in the USA either.

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Knowdafish

It is a SS benefit for those that are retired and collecting Social Security. The parent collects a % of their normal monthly retirement in the form of an additional payment made out for their child. It is a benefit that those who paid into SS are entitled to and has nothing to do with "communism" or even socialism as the o.p. has inferred. 

 

I know of one local U.S. expat that is collecting a monthly check for his young son. 

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USMC-Retired

A child just needs a Conslers Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA).  Then you will submit that to the SS administration.  Then add it to your benefits.  There is no residency requirement for Children.  They will continue to get this benefit until they are 18 years of age. Even after your death.

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Majorsco

Interesting, but the number qualifying would be far lower than discussed since the consular form would require the citizen parent to prove the citizen responsibility or for the citizen to acknowledge the relationship.

 

Therefore all those children of GFs or bar girls are likely out of luck.

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USMC-Retired

For the longest time I thought what a scam.  However lets take a step back.  You pay into this system 7.65% of your pay your entire working life.  The average man pays into this system $345,000 dollars (interest and such).  His monthly benefit would be $1,875.00.  He would have to live by today's Social Security standards 82 years and 4 months.  So what happens to all that money when a person dies and has not gotten his entire benefit.  You guessed it.  

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udonthani

there is no way any kid in Britain would be able to get that huge amount of money while being born overseas and having no  connection, at all, with Britain except that one of their parents happened to be a citizen of te country (and who might themselves, citizen or not, only have a tenous connection with it).

 

700 dollars or a thousand dollars a month, is a huge amount of money here. It automatically propels somebody into the top flight, of earners. There must be an incredible amount of fraud, and/or attempted fraud going on.

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throttleplate

as an american living in the ph i feel better now about having a child.with the ss office in manila it makes it that much easier to get this done.

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