David_LivinginTalisay 1,115 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) http://www.thedailyheckler.com/dswd-and-the-mystery-of-the-relief-goods/ Copy posted Philippines Politics http://www.livingincebuforums.com/topic/66096-dswd-and-the-mystery-of-the-relief-goods/ This may have been a different Disaster and under GMA as President, but do you really think the Government Politics and the Philippines 'System' involving DSWD for Relief Aid Donated Goods, has improved and become more efficient since then? October 24, 2009 by Lynn Filed under: Grr | 13 comments - These people posting to that Blog Report of October 24, 2009, as recently as yesterday in November 2013, perhaps don't think so:- Comments (13) Jacob says 11/23/2013 at 10:05 pm Nung gone ella ung site. please save the pictures. back it up Reply Angel Mejia says 11/24/2013 at 3:24 pm 2009 more ie, when Ondoy. GMA president, queen of corruption. 2013 to replace 4 calendar years ie obsolete. You did not read what Yung date? You do also know as DSWD Secretary Esperanza Cabral e during the time of Gloria Macapalmukha-Aroyo? Reply Ren says 24/11/2013 at 5:10 pm They are all the same, useless!! Reply Ren says 24/11/2013 at 10:15 am Good thing I ought to Pinas.Kung No, maybe I turned to government officials!! Basically overload!! Reply Barron says McFurry 11/24/2013 at 2:22 pm OMG! This is so rude. Government agencies of the Philippines are totally not systematized. They are selfish and evil. Poor filipino victims. They do not have heart for the poor. Burn them to hell. Reply Will Dough says 11/24/2013 at 2:24 pm Poor Filipino! Evil government. Tssss Reply Ara Mae says 11/24/2013 at 2:25 pm Poor victims. Whoever wrote this blog, right dare you! If you want many ways, against the inside of reasons. Shame on them! Reply Angel Mejia says 11/24/2013 at 3:17 pm Please be reminded that this was During typhoon Ondoy in 2009, When the DSWD secretary was ESPERANZA Cabral and the president was Gloria Macapagal-AROYO. OCTOBER 2009 PA YAN. I HOPE YOU GUYS READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN, THIS TIME IN ITS ENTIRETY, SO YOU WILL NOT MISINFORM yourselves. Reply Lynn says 11/24/2013 at 4:21 pm Thanks for pointing it out, Angel. I reposted Ella's original post on October 24, 2009, as indicated underneath the repost. Should people really read more carefully. Reply Ren says 24/11/2013 at 5:06 pm Whether yun ke 2009 or current year, nothing change! They just consistent, they are all bloody useless f_cking!! Reply Arnold says warpeace 24/11/2013 at 4:34 pm not sure international auditors to audit the donations? Need international auditors along with local volunteer auditors for sure be accounted the donation. The government we have now .. pure corrupt ... be defeated just as men behold the politica .... we have to be vigilant to SAFEGUARD the welfare of all fellow citizens affected .. (Including my own family in Palompon) ... Hopefully .. We do have there .... God Bless ... Reply ramon pastor says 11/24/2013 at 5:00 pm this is pure propaganda and nothing else you want to divert the peoples attention from the corruption right in front of your ice happening at this moment Reply Ren says 24/11/2013 5:09 pm and You are insane Kabayan, wake up! The above is Google Translate'd version of the comments, here is the original text:-- See more at: http://www.thedailyheckler.com/dswd-and-the-mystery-of-the-relief-goods/&usg=ALkJrhj9YJDN2bMvLFWmrQFC3EYxy551pw#sthash.YpnkLD0Y.dpuf Jacob says 11/23/2013 at 10:05 pm Wala na ung site nung ella. please save the pictures. back it up Reply Angel Mejia says 11/24/2013 at 3:24 pm 2009 pa yan, nung Ondoy. Si GMA ang presidente, reyna ng corruption. 2013 na palitan mo na calendar mo 4 years na yan obsolete. Di mo nabasa yung date ano? Di mo din alam na si Esperanza Cabral e dswd secretary nung panahon ni Gloria Macapalmukha-Aroyo? Reply Ren says 11/24/2013 at 5:10 pm They are all the same, useless!!!! Reply Ren says 11/24/2013 at 10:15 am Mabuti na lang ala na ako sa Pinas.Kung Hindi, baka nakapatay na ko ng government officials!!!! Sobra na Talaga!!!!!! Reply Barron McFurry says 11/24/2013 at 2:22 pm OMG! This is so rude. Government agencies of the Philippines are totally not systematized. They are selfish and evil. Poor filipino victims. They don't have heart for the poor. Burn them to hell. Reply Will Dough says 11/24/2013 at 2:24 pm Poor Filipino! Evil government. Tssss Reply Ara Mae says 11/24/2013 at 2:25 pm Kawawang mga biktima. Kung sino man sumulat ng blog na ito, tama ka dyan! Kung gusto maraming paraan, pag labag sa loob maraming dahilan. Shame on them! Reply Angel Mejia says 11/24/2013 at 3:17 pm Please be reminded that this was during typhoon ONDOY in 2009, when the dswd secretary was ESPERANZA CABRAL and the president was GLORIA MACAPAGAL-AROYO. OCTOBER 2009 PA YAN. I HOPE YOU GUYS READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN, THIS TIME IN ITS ENTIRETY, SO YOU WILL NOT MISINFORM YOURSELVES. Reply Lynn says 11/24/2013 at 4:21 pm Thanks for pointing it out, Angel. I reposted Ella's original post on October 24, 2009, as indicated underneath the repost. People really should read more carefully. Reply Ren says 11/24/2013 at 5:06 pm Ke 2009 man yun or current year, nothing change!!! Pare-pareho lang Sila, they are all bloody f_cking useless !!!!!! Reply warpeace arnold says 11/24/2013 at 4:34 pm wala bang international auditor na mag audit sa mga donations?? Kailangan ang international auditors along with volunteer local auditors para sigurado ma accounted ang mga donation. Ang government natin ngayon..puro na kurakot… ma bilang lang ang toto-ong tawo sa politica…. we have to be vigilant to safeguard the welfare of all kababayan na nasalanta.. (including my own family in Palompon)… Sana.. may roon tayong magawa…. God Bless … Reply ramon pastor says 11/24/2013 at 5:00 pm this is pure propaganda and nothing else you want to divert the peoples attention from the corruption right in front of your ice happening at this moment Reply Ren says 11/24/2013 at 5:09 pm You are insane Kabayan, wake up!!! - See more at: http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?anno=2&depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=tl&tl=en&u=http://www.thedailyheckler.com/dswd-and-the-mystery-of-the-relief-goods/&usg=ALkJrhjHFTBJNttgrhyRtSaMaEJUYaYDEw#sthash.owonnbxm.dpuf Edited November 24, 2013 by David_LivinginTalisay Link to post Share on other sites
Alan S 4,607 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Worth noting that, "This blog post is dated October 24, 2009 and is therefore unrelated to the aftermath of Typhoon Yolanda." 1 Link to post Share on other sites
David_LivinginTalisay 1,115 Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 I realise it was talking about DSWD and Disaster Relief Goods being warehoused by DSWD and not only did this cause delays but food was rotting in these warehouses instead of getting tp where it was needed, and when it was needed.OK so it was a report about the DSWD under GMA as president, so is NOT Current News,Did I post it under Current News or the Typhoon Yolanda Thread? Are you telling me it is not relevant, just because it it not the current disaster ie Super typhoon Yolanda, or because you think/know the Philippines wont make such mistakes again, and this report is not relevant any more? So answer these Questions:- Is the DSWD still involved in receiving, processing and distributing Aid Relief (coming in from donations - not major relief Organisations and recognized Charities)? Do the DSWD have such warehouses full of goods, and if so what happened to them? If the answers confirm the DSWD is still in charge of such AID Relief Goods, has the DSWD improved it's efficiency, and no longer warehousing and re-packaging, causing delays and prolonged suffering for the people that needs such Aid Relief ASAP? Link to post Share on other sites
hoz 240 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Why don't they deliver the raw goods, straight off the boat or plane to the disaster area and let the people who are there repack? These people, for the most part, have nothing to do and would probably enjoy being able to take charge of their lives in a small way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Davaoeno 37,477 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I realise it was talking about DSWD and Disaster Relief Goods being warehoused by DSWD and not only did this cause delays but food was rotting in these warehouses instead of getting tp where it was needed, and when it was needed. OK so it was a report about the DSWD under GMA as president, so is NOT Current News, Did I post it under Current News or the Typhoon Yolanda Thread? Are you telling me it is not relevant, just because it it not the current disaster ie Super typhoon Yolanda, or because you think/know the Philippines wont make such mistakes again, and this report is not relevant any more? So answer these Questions:- Is the DSWD still involved in receiving, processing and distributing Aid Relief (coming in from donations - not major relief Organisations and recognized Charities)? Do the DSWD have such warehouses full of goods, and if so what happened to them? If the answers confirm the DSWD is still in charge of such AID Relief Goods, has the DSWD improved it's efficiency, and no longer warehousing and re-packaging, causing delays and prolonged suffering for the people that needs such Aid Relief ASAP? And people accuse me of being argumentative !! Posting 4 year old information knowing that people will assume it is currently relevant is not cool . 4 Link to post Share on other sites
stevensanph 141 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 So answer these Questions:- Is the DSWD still involved in receiving, processing and distributing Aid Relief (coming in from donations - not major relief Organisations and recognized Charities)? Do the DSWD have such warehouses full of goods, and if so what happened to them? If the answers confirm the DSWD is still in charge of such AID Relief Goods, has the DSWD improved it's efficiency, and no longer warehousing and re-packaging, causing delays and prolonged suffering for the people that needs such Aid Relief ASAP? The exception on import taxes is only for donations given to the DSWD as confirmed by customs last week. I don't have the link to hand, but it was in the Typhoon thread. DSWD take the goods and send them to their warehouses, where they are repacked (they confirmed the story about removing the ketchup from indonesian donations to prevent it from 'spoiling'). So the question is: why do they need to repack? Link to post Share on other sites
Administrator +Salty Dog 68,961 Posted November 25, 2013 Administrator Share Posted November 25, 2013 I wondered why GMA was mentioned in OP as I didn't notice it was an old blog post at first. Link to post Share on other sites
hoz 240 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 "More than two weeks ago, super typhoon Yolanda (Haiyan) has wrecked havoc in majority of the Visayan islands. The government said they have responded in a “timely” fashion. Did they really do so? How come issues about timely repacking and distribution of relief goods arises from time to time? Various personal accounts in social media posted their dissatisfaction on how our government reacted to the disaster. Their rants may be true or not; however, we should all give them the benefit of the doubt. So who is telling the truth, the government or the people? You decide." http://tenminutes.ph/fr-government-people-clash-truth-yolanda-aftermath/ Link to post Share on other sites
Art 6,548 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 " We have to ensure that all relief goods particularly food items are fit for human consumption and still in good condition. That is why we inspect the contents of the bags, especially their expiration dates,” Department of Social Welfare and Development Secretary Dinky Soliman’s reply in a press release." Way to go insult the Indonesians for helping. Link to post Share on other sites
PeteHK 579 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 It's quite likely that some (many?) of those in authority still don't get the plot. The plot could run something like this: 1. The eyes of the world have been on your country on a scale unmatched since the 1980s. 2. The international community has responded to your crisis with great generosity: both governments and ordinary people have donated aid and money on a very large scale 3. Those that donate have a right (yes, a right!) to know that what has been given has been used effectively and appropriately 4. If you think a Typhoon Yolanda cannot ever happen again, then sadly you are almost certainly wrong 5. If aid donations are abused the international community may not be as generous next time round should that eventuality arise (and personally of course I hope it does not arise) 6. If you believe the international media will just go away and forget about what has been happening over the past 3 weeks you are also wrong 7. Look forward to CNN, BBC etc, etc coming back to Tacloban and other places to do follow up reports - imagine Anderson Cooper tracking down some of the victims he interviewed just a couple of weeks or so ago and asking them how the relief effort helped them. Link to post Share on other sites
spooks 1,729 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) It's quite likely that some (many?) of those in authority still don't get the plot. The plot could run something like this: 1. The eyes of the world have been on your country on a scale unmatched since the 1980s. 2. The international community has responded to your crisis with great generosity: both governments and ordinary people have donated aid and money on a very large scale 3. Those that donate have a right (yes, a right!) to know that what has been given has been used effectively and appropriately 4. If you think a Typhoon Yolanda cannot ever happen again, then sadly you are almost certainly wrong 5. If aid donations are abused the international community may not be as generous next time round should that eventuality arise (and personally of course I hope it does not arise) 6. If you believe the international media will just go away and forget about what has been happening over the past 3 weeks you are also wrong 7. Look forward to CNN, BBC etc, etc coming back to Tacloban and other places to do follow up reports - imagine Anderson Cooper tracking down some of the victims he interviewed just a couple of weeks or so ago and asking them how the relief effort helped them. This pre supposes that they , do not hold your breath, they care alright but they care about something totally different and how it gets stockpiled in their bank accounts. a reduction in aid will be ok for them as they will just release less etc. Then again they could care a whole lot more than I suspect, and I hope they do. Edited November 27, 2013 by spooks 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JohnSurrey 544 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I heard it goes something like this: The supplies come in Anything decent or sellable (mineral water) is skimmed or swapped for lower grade product - especially the rice Anyone who voted for the ruling party gets invited to pick up some relief goods - large bag Anyone who voted for the other side but is on the register (electoral) gets invited to pick up some relief goods - small bag Remainder is sold for benefit of local government officials Relief generally consists of 5 kg rice, 2 can of sardines, 2 can of meatloaf and 2 packs of soup noodles - large bag Relief generally consists of 2 1/2 kg rice, can of sardines, can of meatloaf and 2 packs of soup noodles - small bag 1 Link to post Share on other sites
David_LivinginTalisay 1,115 Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Perhaps this is the root cause (or lack of rather):- http://manilatimes.net/aquino-failed-to-implement-and-fund-p1-b-civil-defense-law/54289/ Contrast with how Australia and Canada deal with natural disasters:- http://getrealphilippines.com/blog/2013/11/are-donations-to-the-relief-and-recovery-of-yolanda-victims-in-the-philippines-all-going-to-waste/ The Noy who cried wolf November 27, 2013 by FallenAngel No doubt that many of you have heard of “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”, one of Aesop’s fables. A shepherd boy repeatedly tricks villagers nearby into thinking that wolves are attacking his flock. When the wolves do come along, he cries for help once again, but the villagers do not believe him anymore. Thus, the wolves eat his sheep. Moral of the story: “This shows how liars are rewarded; even if they tell the truth, no one believes them.” Now, on the basis of his parents’ name and his pedigree, then presidential candidate Benigno Simeon “BS” Aquino III had been able to convince the electorate that he could be trusted. I’m guessing that even those who didn’t vote for him back in 2010 wanted to trust him when he became the official winner in that year’s presidential elections, though they were watching him closely. The Philippines, after all, prides itself in being a “democracy”; thus the decision of the majority must be respected, whatever it may turn out to be. When we define what it means for BS Aquino to be trusted, it means that he would be competent and qualified to lead a nation of 100 million (and counting). He would make decisions for the greatest good of the Filipino people. He would put the national interest above his clan’s own. He would finally be the one to make sure that government operates more efficiently and effectively than it had in the past. It did not take long for BS Aquino to show that he couldn’t be trusted with the highest government post, though. Remember the Luneta hostage situation in August 2010? Eight (8) Hong Kong tourists ended up dead because of the failure of several Philippine institutions: the Philippine Media, the Philippine National Police, and the local and national governments. And BS Aquino was nowhere to take command responsibility at that time. Three years later, he still hasn’t. Maybe dealing with hostage situations wasn’t yet one of BS Aquino’s government’s strong points at that time. Let’s see now, what if his government’s strength then actually lies in responding to natural calamities? After all, the Philippines does get hit by 20-odd typhoons a year, with the occasional armed conflict and earthquake thrown in for good measure. Surely, BS Aquino’s government must be good at disaster management, right? 2011, typhoon Sendong (Washi) came. Typhoon Sendong killed at least 1,500.Typhoon Sendong left. Unfortunately, the calamity response was mismanaged. Malacañang did admit their excessive pre-occupation with former president Gloria Arroyo, though, so let’s give them brownie points for that. 2012, typhoon Pablo (Bopha) came. Another 1,000 or so dead. Another mismanaged calamity response. And the government patted itself on the back prematurely for its supposed “preparedness”. Disaster response? Nope, looks like it didn’t take long for BS Aquino’s government to show their incompetence in that field either. How about respect for the rule of law? How about, let’s take him up on his promise to fight corruption? Let’s see how he did there: The Supreme Court implements a TRO on the travel ban that would have prevented former president Gloria Arroyo from getting treatment for her health condition abroad. What did BS Aquino’s Department of Justice (DOJ) Secretary Leila de Lima do? Through her, his government defied the SC order and arrested her anyway, even without charges being brought forth at that time. Former Chief Justice Renato Corona was also a target of BS Aquino’s “anti-corruption” drive, all because he was appointed by Arroyo, never mind that the Judicial Bar Council (JBC) had been ok with it. BS Aquino wanted him impeached. He even resorted to using pork barrel (allegedly, of course), the ultimate device for government corruption here in the Philippines, to convince 188 congressmen to “see things his way”. Ultimately, Corona was impeached, but BS Aquino’s government trampled on his constitutional rights to do so. And the sad part about all this is that the Filipino people, at that time, didn’t seem to give much of a sh*t! Hey, that’s just the first two years of his term, up to 2012. And he’s been racking up the baseball strikes and errors while only half the game is over! 2013 was “eventful”, to say the least, and at the start of it, BS Aquino had a lot of opportunities to improve the standing of his government in his critics eyes. By the way, it was an election year. Leopards don’t change their spots. 50-year old boys still cry wolf. March 2013 – BS Aquino’s government left the men of the sultan, recently-deceased Jamalul Kiram III, to die at the hands of the Malaysians. Nobody’s saying that the troops of the Sulu sultanate did the right thing; why it eventually turned out the way it did (into one big mess, for short) was because BS Aquino did not want to listen to what Kiram had to say about the Philippine claim to Sabah. BS Aquino instead was more concerned about campaigning for his Liberal Party (LP) senatorial bets, and making sure the Bangsamoro Framework Agreement (which Malaysia played a big part in, by the way), would come to fruition. The actions of Kiram and his men, however, doused cold water on the latter. August 2013 – around that time a habagat hit Metro Manila. Same thing also happened in August of 2012. The response was the same, however: no official word from his government several days after the storm hit. In 2012, he came out to one site with his senatorial bets, which reeked of epal. In 2013, he defended his delayed appearance by claiming that he was coordinating with his cabinet secretaries. September 2013 – the Zamboanga situation broke out. We all know how that went. Noynoy went down there to personally oversee the operations, but it looks like it didn’t speed up the resolution one bit, did it? October 2013 – an earthquake affected Bohol and Cebu and other nearby areas. Yes, BS Aquino went to the site, but what critics consider insensitive was that he didn’t cancel his trip to Korea despite the need for leadership during the crisis management. No one could stop BS Aquino, allegedly because one of the highlights of that trip was for him to receive recognition on behalf of his father, Ninoy Aquino, who covered the Korean War in the 1950’s as a correspondent for the Manila Times. November 2013 – Typhoon Yolanda (Haiyan). Enough said. BS Aquino started off on the wrong foot by blaming officials of the hardest hit area, Leyte, Tacloban city in particular, for the lack of response. All despite the fact that they were among the victims too, and despite the realization that nothing could have prepared Leyte for the strength of that storm. Plus, he and his government officials were desperate to project an image to the rest of the world that they had the situation under control, even if reports from foreign correspondents on the ground had made it glaringly obvious that that wasn’t true. By the way, does anyone remember Noynoy Aquino’ telecast at the end of October? “I am not a thief.” That was his way of doing cover-my-ass for the scandal with the pork barrel and the Disbursement Acceleration Program (DAP) that broke out. Unfortunately, when you do nothing or are powerless to stop thievery in your own backyard, hardly anyone will believe you when you say you are not a thief, or complicit to it. You’re any one of three things: incompetent, indifferent, or blind. Back to the Typhoon Yolanda situation. BS Aquino’s government is now accused of padding the death count, keeping foreign donations to themselves, and using the Department of Trade and Industry’s (DTI) Diskwento Caravan to sell relief goods to the typhoon victims. The first item isn’t so surprising, given that BS Aquino was so concerned about there being zero casualties. For the second item, there were quite a few who volunteered to repack goods for the operations of the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) who also told their stories about DSWD Secretary Dinky Soliman’s alleged belief that foreign donations were too good for the victims, thus they be given local sardines instead. Stories and reports persist; make of that what you will. The DTI Secretary Greg Domingo has an official statement regarding the Diskwento Caravan. Even if he is telling the truth, that the Diskwento Caravan isn’t being used to sell relief goods to the victims, it’s hard to believe him, or any government official in BS Aquino’s government, for that matter, because it has been crying wolf ever since. *** There you have it. BS Aquino and his government had used all up all their “trust credits” with the Filipino people early on. BS Aquino has shown so far that he is not above telling lies just to keep his image squeaky clean, or because he has a perverse sense of self-righteousness. The credibility that BS Aquino’s government has with the Filipino people is now at an all-time low; he and his government have been consistent in being under-performing and/or non-performing. That’s what the Philippines gets for following a man who cannot lead, as a wise man once said. It’s just sad that Filipinos had to fall off a cliff before they could finally learn just how much their naivety and collective dysfunction would eventually come back to bite them in the ass. Related Posts: Noynoy Aquino’s presidency has been nothing but one big… Faster than a speeding bullet – Noynoy Aquino to the… Why Noynoy Aquino has and does not have to be at every… Sec. Mar Roxas character exposed in interview with… Korina Sanchez is Mar Roxas’s wife! 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