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Monsoon

I gave up my Coppenhagen smokeless habit  14 years ago in Manila.   I could still find it..but it was harder and more expensive to find so I had my last dip on Dec 31st 1999.  I have only missed it occasionally after the rough initial weaning off period.     Moving here will give you a good reason to quit.   You of course can still find it as mentioned above..but its not in your face at every gas station and store.   NO regrets.   My wife wasn't happy though as we used to share the same spittoon. (just kidding if you are reading honey) 

 

Need some goal setting poster material:   plenty more at :   search google images  "smokeless tobacco effects"

 

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These are the effects of american style chewing tobacco which has been cured at higher temperatures and perhaps other additional chemicals added.  

 

From practical experience when I used american chewing tobaccos in the distant past I used to get noticeable effects on my gums, sores, 'white dead tissue' etc. I do not get this from snus. I also use far less snus than cigarettes or chew. I attribute this to there being no other chemical additives. 

 

The rest i have taken from an article I found, but have read the same thing in many different places. There have even been government studies in Sweden. No health care institute will come out and say 'using tobacco is safe.' But when it comes to snus, its safer than the alternatives (except abstinence of course). 

 

The first primary difference between the two varieties of smokeless tobacco is that unlike dip, there is no need to spit while using snus. This is due to the processing of the tobacco used to make each variety. Whereas dip is fire cured, Swedish Snus is pasteurized, thus taking out the harshness of the juice and allowing you to swallow. Personally, I find that snus is superior to dip in work in school environments, as well as other places where you may not be able to spit.

The issue of curing also brings about the next difference between the two types of tobacco, health implications. Snus has been shown to contain substantially less quantities of tobacco specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) than dip, and it is these TSNAs that are often implicated in causing cancer among healthy individuals (one variety of dip contained 127ppm of TSNAs compared with 3.7ppm with a type of Swedish snus). However, in comparison to cigarettes which contain over 1,000 TSNAs per cigarette as well as tar and other chemicals, both are much safer alternatives to cigarette smoking.

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Half Baked

I could mail you a pouch of homemade chaw, E.B.

 

See how you like the stuff before going to the effort of making it yourself.

Not sure how to go about doing that.  Sounds like something I wouldn't mind, though. Thanks, Boss.

 

IM me and let me know how .

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throttleplate

I used Copenhagen for many years while in the military,when I got my physical for release the dentist looked at my teeth and gums and said I have receeding gum line from the snuff being stuffed in my lower gums and I had white spots on my lip.I immediately quit,had withdrawls such as headaches but still have my gums and lower jaw.

 

What I liked about Copenhagen was it gave me a intense buzz or a relaxing buzz depending on time of day and I enjoyed the spitting,something about spitting made it more enjoyable.I always was able to drink beer and have a dip in my lip,it took some practice but I mastered it,also I never swallowed it but some guys did,i never could understand why they swallowed Copenhagen or the less harsh skoal or Kodiak.

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samatm

I used Copenhagen for many years while in the military,when I got my physical for release the dentist looked at my teeth and gums and said I have receeding gum line from the snuff being stuffed in my lower gums and I had white spots on my lip.I immediately quit,had withdrawls such as headaches but still have my gums and lower jaw.

 

What I liked about Copenhagen was it gave me a intense buzz or a relaxing buzz depending on time of day and I enjoyed the spitting,something about spitting made it more enjoyable.I always was able to drink beer and have a dip in my lip,it took some practice but I mastered it,also I never swallowed it but some guys did,i never could understand why they swallowed Copenhagen or the less harsh skoal or Kodiak.

 

TP  I can relate. 

Just like smoking there were times of day that were just not complete until  "...just a pinch between the cheek and gum."       The drive from Houston to Okie City was a one can event.  Cope n Coffee was  not a bad marriage.    Still love to thump can of snuff to pack the tobacco..    Ok..better stop thinking about or I might fall off the wagon.   but yeah the cope buzz was and  flavor were nice .   But still very happy not  to mess with the mess anymore! 

 

I had the white spots many times.. one abscess scared me  cold turkey for a month but it was easy to get started again.  

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Philtex

Bought at Gasino Mactan before. Red Man.

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Boss Ross

Any chewing tobacco available in Cebu? Local or otherwise, full leaf, snuff, long cut, doesn't matter.

I searched "chewing tobacco" and found nothing.

 

Thanks,

Todd

I am fairly certain I saw what looked like Levi Garette at a stall in the SM Mall. Have a friend who chews home made and I was going to buy him some as a treat. Can't say exactly where it was but it is a stall in the halls, not a store.

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Denis

 

 

Or just head to the biggest local market and ask around.

heaps in argao market...

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BossHog

About flavoring chewing tobacco:

 

You can use the food flavoring oils used in making hard candies to flavor your chaw.

 

LorAnn (available on Amazon and seems to be the preferred brand) makes good quality food grade oils. Just be careful to start with a TINY amount. They're very concentrated. Much more so than what you'd find at the grocery store.

 

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http://www.amazon.com/LorAnn-Candy-Flavoring-Oils-FLAVORS/dp/B006OG0B9Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1385364874&sr=8-3&keywords=LorAnn+oils

 

If you like Beechnut you can opt for spearmint or wintergreen.

 

My other choices would be apple, apricot, peach, and maybe even mango.

 

Would skip the peanut butter and bubblegum flavors, lol.

 

I'm sure you can buy flavor oils here but not sure about the quality/strength. Very light though and maybe something to throw in your luggage.

 

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Also found some recipes today for Swedish snus. Basically you pulverise the tobacco in a meat grinder into a fine powder, mix with salt water amd bake for 24 hours at low temp. Mix again and bake 12 more hours. The recipe I found makes two kilos of snus! Will experiment after my first harvest comes in in a few months and has been dried/cured.

 

Will keep you guys in mind to be guinea pigs when the first batch is done.

 

&&&

 

No Fixed Address: the Maryland 609 seeds you sent are germinating now. Hoping to move them to seed trays by midweek. Photos to follow.

 

 

 

 

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Monsoon

About flavoring chewing tobacco:

 

 

Boss you got me very intrigued now about making my own... 

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