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The shutdown. A glorious US initiative that could be expanded internationally.


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from an Australian economics/libertarian website http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/10/06/the-shutdown-movement/

 

The shutdown movement

 

As Newt Gingrich points out, US Government shutdowns have a long history. There were 12 under former Speaker Tip O’Neill when Ronald Reagan was President. The shutdown is a result of a funding gap where the US Congress fails to pass the Budget presented by the executive branch. While Australia came close to a shutdown in 1975, with delays in the passage of the supply bills, we have not enjoyed a period of Government shutdown.

 

The longest shutdown period in the United States was 21 days from 15 December 1995 to 6 January 1996. Gingrich was the Speaker.

While these periods of shutdown are little more than an annoyance, the concept could be relied upon elsewhere. For example, why not shutdown the OECD, UNESCO, UN, IMF and World Bank?

 

As has been noted many times in the Cat, there has been substantial mission creep in these international organisations. Their civil servants enjoy large tax-free salaries (with the exception of US citizens working at international organisations who are required to pay taxes to the US government). They have moved well beyond their founding frameworks and mandates and no international organisation has been put to the sword since 1946.

 

The League of Nations was disbanded in 1946, with the final motion agreed

The League of Nations shall cease to exist except for the purpose of the liquidation of its affairs.

and its resources sent to the newly formed United Nations.

 

Can there be any doubt that international organisations have evolved to serve the interests of their employees rather than members? But how can we rid ourselves of organisations which have long since passed their use-by-date?

 

Take the OECD. There are too many vested interests who lobby for its continuation, from the employees to the Ambassadors sent from member states. It would be difficult, if not impossible, to reach a consensus to terminate the OECD.

 

But the shutdown option could be a start. Australia could set the example by ceasing to fund the OECD and withdrawing our delegation from Paris. Other countries might join Australia, starving the OECD of funds. Let’s not forget it has a massive liability in its pension fund, with many of its older employees retiring over the next decade or so. Unlike a Government, the OECD and other international organisation cannot impose a tax. If member states withdraw or refuse to finance the OECD, it would quickly become bankrupt.

 

Even a temporary shutdown of an international organisation could be helpful, showing the world how unnecessary the organisations have become.

 

The shutdown. A glorious US initiative that could be expanded internationally.

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Time for a good housecleaning.

 

Everybody knows it in their gut.

 

What cannot go on forever, won't.

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MarinePride

Where's the real shutdown?  Only 83% of the federal gov't is shutdown and it's designed to make the life of the average citizen inconvenient for those rare instances you deal with the .gov.  Those in gov't, on furlough, are going to get back pay and are enjoying a free vacation right now.  Don't believe the media outlets that are trying to make this out to be something more than it really is.  The only people getting hurt are everyday people.

 

Obama still has his golf course to play on and chefs to cook, so life is good if you're him.

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it's designed to make the life of the average citizen inconvenient for those rare instances you deal with the .gov.

 

Especially when they DO show up for work. And those instances are about to become much less rare ...

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Majorsco

Obama on the golf course during a national crisis reminds me of Nero playing his lire as Rome burned. Same detachment from reality? Or more like European royalty thought history. No wonder he's called King Barry by many.

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Obama on the golf course during a national crisis reminds me of Nero playing his lire as Rome burned.

 

And the barbarians are in Congress gleefully sacking the treasury- and then borrowing money to sack it some more.

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I'm getting so sick of people saying Obama plays golf all the time.  During his first 4 years he has played an average of once every 2 1/2 weeks.  Eisenhower played 800 rounds in 8 years.  That's almost twice per week.  George W. Bush took more vacation days than any President in history.  Did you same guys complain about him when he was hanging out in Texas?  If you want to complain about something, how about the fact that the VA regional offices are being shut down denying services to veterans while the Congressional gym is still open as it's considered "essential".

 

Or, you could complain about the fact that congressman work about 130 days per year and if you ever watch C-Span, most are not even there when it is a "work" day.  I didn't see any posts about the fact that lots of Congressman actually vote while they are drunk.  Boehner is a known alcoholic and this is the guy who's running the place.

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Majorsco

Yes Bush took a lot of time at his ranch where he also conducted international affairs. Putin and several other world leaders held meetings at the ranch. How many world leaders has Obama been dealing with in person with his golf? Answer is none. Also his expensive Martha's Vineyard vacations. None.

 

Out of respect to the troops Bush gave up golf while troops were on combat due to the optics and to boost morale.

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Yes Bush took a lot of time at his ranch where he also conducted international affairs. Putin and several other world leaders held meetings at the ranch. How many world leaders has Obama been dealing with in person with his golf? Answer is none. Also his expensive Martha's Vineyard vacations. None.

 

Out of respect to the troops Bush gave up golf while troops were on combat due to the optics and to boost morale.

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Yes Bush took a lot of time at his ranch where he also conducted international affairs. Putin and several other world leaders held meetings at the ranch. How many world leaders has Obama been dealing with in person with his golf? Answer is none. Also his expensive Martha's Vineyard vacations. None.

 

Out of respect to the troops Bush gave up golf while troops were on combat due to the optics and to boost morale.

Bush spent 452 days of his presidency in Crawford, Tx.  He must have met with hundreds of world leaders right?

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Being President of the U.S. has to be the most stressful job in the world.  People expect you to be "on the job" 365 days per year.  Is it too much to ask that he gets a few hours every two weeks to relax?  

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Being President of the U.S. has to be the most stressful job in the world. People expect you to be "on the job" 365 days per year. Is it too much to ask that he gets a few hours every two weeks to relax?

 

At what cost to the taxpayer? Why are taxpayers paying millions for Michelle's jaunts in Spain with an entourage of over 100? Why are taxpayers paying millions for their annual rich elbow rubbing vacation in Martha's Vineyard? Michelle can't even fly on the same plane thus driving costs higher.

 

Presidents are never off duty so the number if days out of Washington is a red herring. Cost to the taxpayers isn't.

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Yea, 

 

At what cost to the taxpayer? Why are taxpayers paying millions for Michelle's jaunts in Spain with an entourage of over 100? Why are taxpayers paying millions for their annual rich elbow rubbing vacation in Martha's Vineyard? Michelle can't even fly on the same plane thus driving costs higher.

Presidents are never off duty so the number if days out of Washington is a red herring. Cost to the taxpayers isn't.

Yea, I guess you're right.  All those trips to Texas cost the taxpayers nothing.  But California?  Now that's expensive.


At what cost to the taxpayer? Why are taxpayers paying millions for Michelle's jaunts in Spain with an entourage of over 100? Why are taxpayers paying millions for their annual rich elbow rubbing vacation in Martha's Vineyard? Michelle can't even fly on the same plane thus driving costs higher.

Presidents are never off duty so the number if days out of Washington is a red herring. Cost to the taxpayers isn't.

Bush must have left his staff and the Secret Service in Washington and flown coach.  Right?

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