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What to do when REAL Human Trafficking is suspected?

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The whole idea of needing to enter Hong Kong as a tourist first before continuing to Serbia makes it seem like a shady deal.

 

Why not just a plane ticket from Cebu to Serbia if legit? The cheapest route that I see from Cebu to Serbia is through Doha on Qatar Airways.

 

Even if her flight is through Hong Kong, then continues to Serbia, there should be no reason to enter Hong Kong as a tourist on the way.

 

Has he specified how she will be traveling from Hong Kong to Serbia?

 

Going to Hong Kong as a tourist is probably the easiest way a Filipina can leave the Philippines. Many Filipinas do it for whatever reason, so it is hardly uncommon. The facts that her mother lives in Hong Kong (so she has an address she can give to Immigration) and that the family is greasing the skids so she can go makes everything else a moot point. This girl is already as good as gone. All anybody can do at this point is pray that we are wrong and that she will live happily ever after.

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Even if her flight is through Hong Kong, then continues to Serbia, there should be no reason to enter Hong Kong as a tourist on the way.   Has he specified how she will be traveling from Hong Kong to Serbia?

 

I really appreciate the way forum members share the concerns I have about this.  Its something that makes a guy grit his teeth as he 'shuts up' around family members.  So, to the points you raised, It is actually quite logical that she would visit Hong Kong first because her mother works there and she would want to say goodbye to her mother (I have no knowledge of her father).  It is also quite convenient as a way of avoiding some DFA rules (which is what raises at least one red flag).

 

I have no knowledge about how she will travel from Hong Kong to Serbia and no one is likely to tell me at this point.

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Davaoeno

I really appreciate the way forum members share the concerns I have about this.  Its something that makes a guy grit his teeth as he 'shuts up' around family members.  So, to the points you raised, It is actually quite logical that she would visit Hong Kong first because her mother works there and she would want to say goodbye to her mother (I have no knowledge of her father).  It is also quite convenient as a way of avoiding some DFA rules (which is what raises at least one red flag).

 

I have no knowledge about how she will travel from Hong Kong to Serbia and no one is likely to tell me at this point.

 

And I am sure that all of us who basically say to stay out of it wish her nothing but the best and hope that all is above board [ altho not usual by our cultural standards] and that she finds true happiness with her new husband 

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panther

Simple Man, I hope you will keep us informed as this drama plays out. It would be nice to know if the girl boards the plane and what happens to her then. I would suppose that once she gets to Hong Kong, she will get a ticket and documents, or an escort to accompany her to whatever her final destination is. It would also be nice to know if she is ever heard from again after she leaves Hong Kong.

if she does make it to serbia she won,t be heard from again the serbians treat their own women badly never mind philippinas she,s doomed  trust me

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Cipro

Well, I'm glad I don't have a bunch of meddlesome retired coots with their noses in my business. *ducks*

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samatm

There are agencies in Serbia fighting and helping trafficked women.   Perhaps you can give her  some phone numbers to have on hand incase she gets in trouble.   From my reading on the situation Serbia is transit point and the trafficked find themselves locked up on Italy , Romania, all across Europe and even into the US .  

 

They probably want her to go to HK to work on her Serbian Visa and get other European  paper works in place.   She via skype:   "Slobadan,  why do I need a visa to Italy ? "    " My darling its supposed to be a surprise , but we are taking our honeymoon in Rome ! "

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tom_shor

While that is all very true, there is no hard evidence to show that this girl is doing anything besides visiting her mother in Hong Kong. If the girl's family has sided with her on this, and have closed ranks, then there is nothing that Simple Man can do to stop her from leaving. To even attempt to do so would undoubtedly destroy his relationship with the family. He has already warned them that he doesn't think this is legit, so at least they won't come back and ask him why he didn't warn them if she goes missing. The "Serbian" guy has no intention of setting foot in the Philippines, so he will never be liable to Philippine laws. You are beating a dead horse.

Well you could be mistaken on one point. If it turns out he was right it is quite possible the family will still blame him. They certainly won't accept the blame themselves. This is a lose lose situation.

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tom_shor

if she does make it to serbia she won,t be heard from again the serbians treat their own women badly never mind philippinas she,s doomed  trust me

If this is trafficing she may never even set foot in Serbia. She might vanish in Hong Kong.

 

Well, I'm glad I don't have a bunch of meddlesome retired coots with their noses in my business. *ducks*

So if we hear of a plan to off you we should keep it to ourselves?

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tomaw

Well, the age of consent is 18 here. You may stretch a thing or two to warn them not to send off anyone under 18 to meet a BF in a foreign country, doing so would be an accessory to the crime punishable in the Philipfpines or something to that effect...

 

I would tell them to wait until she is at least 18 (use email, Skype for a while) and see how her BF would react to that news…

 

Besides, if he is really serious, he would fly all the way to the Philippines... I would... ;)

I would alert the Philippine Authorities (the police, customs, imigration etc.) as to her age and what her plans are. They may be able to prevent her from leaving the country. If they can deny passports for legitimate people than they can certainly deny a passport for this one. Just let them know that she's just 17 years old and may be falling into a trafficking trap. Edited by tomaw
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Headshot

Well you could be mistaken on one point. If it turns out he was right it is quite possible the family will still blame him. They certainly won't accept the blame themselves. This is a lose-lose situation.

 

Well...yeah...I understand that; but even if they do, it won't be the same kind of "blame" that they will give him if she is actually prevented from leaving the Philippines. If it turns out he was right, there will never be any confirmation that he was. She will just disappear without a trace. The relatives will make up all kinds of excuses why she isn't writing, emailing or calling...too busy in her new life, no internet, so happy she forgot about the family, etc. I would definitely advise against any, "I told you so" comments from Simple Man (although I doubt he would anyway).

 

They may or may not ever get around to blaming him for not stopping her...and if they do, they will be admitting that they were wrong. Admitting that they are wrong is the one thing that Filipinos dread even more than taking blame. So...maybe. More likely, no blame will be assigned, and they will just continue to hope she will eventually contact them. However, if she gets stopped from leaving the country, the result will be known immediately...and the blame will also be given immediately...to Simple Man. I see it as a definitely lose - possibly lose situation.

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Cipro

So if we hear of a plan to off you we should keep it to ourselves?

If it's as vague and unfounded as this yes please keep it to yourself.

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smokey

if she does make it to serbia she won,t be heard from again the serbians treat their own women badly never mind philippinas she,s doomed  trust me

come on did you read that on a milk carton ?  people are people world over some are good and some are bad 

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jtmwatchbiz

tough spot your in simple man.

 

i will probably get flamed for this, but i kinda know how it must feel to be helpless and dreading what may very well be a horrible fate for the gal. if it was me i would smooth things out with the family this weekend, then gift the girl with her very own shiny new laptop which was conveniently infected with a spy program that will forward everything taking place on the laptop to your own email address. from there i would read what's going on, make an educated decision one way or another, and if need be put an abrupt end to the relationship by intercepting and corrupting/sabotaging the communications between the two "lovebirds" without anyone being privy...including your wife. not exactly PC and it does violate her privacy, but in this situation it would be the lesser of the evils - as far as her being violated.      

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Davaoeno

 

nfected with a spy program

 

or a keyboard logger 

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jtmwatchbiz

or a keyboard logger 

 

 

yes and as i mentioned it should be the type that forwards info to his email rather than needing access to the laptop once it's given to the gal. there will be no more question as to the situation then, and the methods of disrupting the impending trip are endless if it is determined to be needed.

 

i would also not post anything about it here if the OP decides to go this route...just keep it to himself and do what he has to do. 

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