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Ricky

No worries, I also worked onboard Katara.

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http://www.charterworld.com/index.html?sub=yacht-charter&charter=fortunate-sun-2422  BINGO,,,I think!

 

 

I have been checking a ship finder website with no luck until today. She finally showed up on her approach to Gibraltar. Perhaps the coverage far out at sea is more sketchy, who knows  Anyway she appears to be the "Fortunate Son" 54 meters out of the Cayman's. The Lady Ann Magee is south west of her as well.

 

 

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/

 

Well, unless the Fortunate Sun has sister yachts, it looks like you found the right boat. Everything seems to match the pictures. The 121-meter number that was given early-on was what threw us off the scent. I have some questions for anybody who might know the answers...how do they deploy the motor-boats on the back deck? I don't see any apparent crane, and they have an overhanging deck on top of them, which makes it appear like they would be difficult to deploy. Are they just for emergencies, or are they used for ship-to-shore transport when the yacht is anchored rather than docked?

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toshi

hydraulic cranes come out on top of the tenders..(horizontal deployment), then once the tenders hang over the water they get lowered.

 

these are the normal tenders for guests (ship to shore) also get provisions, go water-skiing ,  and anything else u can think of..(like bringing the crew to the bar after a busy charter .... :)

 

most likely there is a rescue and emergency tender as well, probably on the bow (better ask the captains on this forum though..)

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Ricky

I would agree with toshi, the tenders likely deploy horizontally on hydraulic beams, and the bulkwalk appears to have a break in it which would suggest it folds outwards to facilitate the tender being deployed.

 

 On a vessel like that, if it is commercial, then as toshi says one of the tenders (likely located on the f'cstle) will be designated as a rescue boat. Traditionally, and in SOLAS, these are required to be red, but in recent years exemptions for yachts have occured with new type approved white combined tender/rescue boat.

 

As toshi also said, they are used for guests primarily. Privacy is a major reason for travelling on a large yacht and being able to anchor away in a remote bay then shuttle in discretely using a small tender is a major advantage for that. I've seen ashore many heads of state and royalty, discretely into a large crowd in a marina in the Med. In addition, many of the more beautiful places to visit aren't accessible in a large yacht.

 

 The design of these large yachts, and the effective use of space is applaudable.

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Ricky, (or anyone) would you say, generally that the contruction, and fit/finish of the super yachts are equal to or better than a typical cruise ship?

 

While I am  asking questions,,,,,,,,,,,,,what type of onboard security against pirates have you seen being deployed over the last few years?

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GIB arrival

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1140 UTC – 5 May 2013 Gibraltar


 

 


 

Good morning please be advised, we are presently continuing  to load lube oil and fuel oil, and will advise when complete and underway direct for Genoa :)  


 

  • GIB arrival was at 0700 UTC

  • Fuel load upon arrival was 18, 800 liters, consumption for this leg was 114,200 L ( 133,000 departure – 18,800 remaining ) 

  • Distanced logged : 3262 nautical miles

  • Time 11.5 days ( due to extended routing due to weather diversion ) 10.5 days RL direct to GIB


 

Passage Plan for GIB – Genoa prepared and will be sent upon departure. 


 

Forecast is for varying light winds, across proposed route to Genoa.


 

Vsat changed to 22w / Med Beam 1.5 days prior to arrival In GIB


 

French cells changed out prior to arrival, on line and operational 


 

 


 

Weather conditions at present E 10/15 knts, 1 meter seas. Overnight watch from 0100 to 0600 was quite bumpy from the East being light ship, thus we slowed slightly which resulted in the slightly delayed arrival.


 

 


 

A picture on departure is to follow as it has cleared up nicely this afternoon.


 


 
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Ricky

Ricky, (or anyone) would you say, generally that the contruction, and fit/finish of the super yachts are equal to or better than a typical cruise ship?

 

While I am  asking questions,,,,,,,,,,,,,what type of onboard security against pirates have you seen being deployed over the last few years?

 

 

 

 

The quality is far superior then a cruise ship, modern cruise ships are designed to fit a certain template (hence many of them look so similar), to be built in the shortest space of time and have prebuilt cabins etc. which are installed in the latter stage of the build.

 

Yachts are almost entirely bespoke, using high quality materials and finished to an exceptional standard. Teak decks are the finest sourced teak, often handpicked. Once the hull is finished, it is faired (smoothed out like a plaster would do to a wall), and then has a paint applied by spray gun to give the gloss finish. This process is incredibly time consuming and needs particular conditions (the dock needs to be totally enclosed, or a paint tent built over the entire ship). The interior finish is often by highly renowned designers, and the technology installed is often state of the art, and would never be used in the commercial world as it’s generally costly and can be temperamental.

 

All that said and done, the yachts underneath are still ships and the larger ones are built to full international standards, and those that are over 3000gt that carry more than 12 passengers essentially meet all of the same passenger ship requirements as a cruise ship would (although some exemptions may be applied). They.also need full merchant licenses on board, so many of the officers are ex-cruise ship.

 

 

The security varies greatly; many yachts have Nepalese/Ghurkhas to provide the day to day security. For higher profile guests, they bring their own security on board when they are travelling. Some of the Middle Eastern owners I have worked on employed ex US Navy Seals when outside of the Middle East whilst others carry Royal Guard/Military all of the time when they are embarked.

 

 I have sailed at times with full naval escorts and also with vessels which carry weapons on board, although this is becoming rarer and rarer as many countries impose serious fines to ‘bond’ these when in port (i.e. Italy, France etc.).

 

 I’d say as a minimum, ex-Navy Seal/SAS when guests are embarked is the norm for high profile guests.

 

 

 

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  • consumption for this leg was 114,200 L ( 133,000 departure – 18,800 remaining ) 
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  • Distanced logged : 3262 nautical miles

 

35 liters / nautical mile

 

8.3 gallons / nautical mile

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Mr. Mike

Gibraltar,,,Pillars of Hercules

 

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Good evening, and what a lovely one it is. Clear skies, calm, and steaming Eastwards with 100% visibility.


 

 


 

Earlier with my arrival notice I overlooked mentioning we took quite a shellacking early this am quite unexpectedly. At around 0300 UTC the winds went from less than >15knt NE to 35+knts NE in the snap of your fingers and lasted 2-3 hrs before dissipating for our arrival. The wind driven sea got very short / steep and swung East and proved to be hugely uncomfortable on the bow keeping all the crew awake most of the night, including myself hanging on with all 4's literally trying to stay in my bunk because we were so light on fuel !  We slowed for safety but still made it into GIB around 0700 UTC / 0900 local.


 

 


 

Since then, we have bunkered, loaded oil, and off we go again towards Cabo de Gata ( SE Spain ) , thence just 15 nm SW of Menorca, Baleric Islands, and RL for Genoa with a 1500 ETA 8 May +/-. Conditions at present are perfect, winds S <5, and the forecast we received for the next 3 days could not be better for this leg !!!!  We trust we won't have a repeat of last night, that was NO fun ! 


 

 


 

Departure was 1600 UTC


 

Course – 82 T


 

Rpm – 1470


 

Speed – 12.5


 

Cabo de Gata – 128 nm


 

Seas – glass CALM at this hour


 

 


 

Hope your having a good Sunday afternoon.


 

 


 

< Hello and good bye to Gibraltar > 

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Mr. Mike

Short report,,,,btw, it is the Fortunate SUN,,,,my bad!

 

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Good day , 


 



































6 May / 12Z UTC  
Our pos:       37.15.63 N    000.23.61 W
Course: 058 T   

Next  WP : SW Menorca
























Distance to WP  :     269 nm

24 hr Distance made good : 248 since departure












Speed:  13.0 knts SOG 


 

Rpm's – 1470


 


































Total Distance Run : 3531 nm
Current ETA Genoa :  08 May 1400 local
























Wind: SW 10  knots 
Seas: SW .5 m  wind driven
Swells : NIL
Sky: clear ( 3/8th )  
Bar: 1014


 

 


 

The below weather chart shows our current position at 14:14 UTC / 1616 local & ship time


 


 

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Almost there....

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Good day, 


 








































7 May / 12Z UTC  
Our pos:       40.16.97 N   005.07.37 E
Course: 036.5 T   

Next  WP ( 15nm off Genoa Sea Buoy ) 
























Distance to WP  :     280 nm

24 hr Distance made good : 314 since departure












Speed:  13.1 knts 

Rpm's – 1470


































Total Distance Run : 3818 nm
Current ETA Genoa :  08 May 1400 local
























Wind: SW 5-10  knots 
Seas: SW .5 m  wind driven
Swells : NIL
Sky: clear ( 6/8th )  
Bar: 1011


 

 


 

Conditions overnight and today thus far remain the same, light winds from the S/SW, and following light seas with essentially no swell. ETA remains 1400 local tomorrow at the sea buoy, with us dockside by 1500 or so at Marina Molo Vechio in the middle of the historic portion of Genoa's port. Will advise tomorrow as we are busy on board with work, preparations and scheduling for the next several days of busyness ! 

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Mr. Mike

The voyage ends in Genoa, with a bittersweet conclusion.

 

Liberty Call!

 

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Good day all,


 

 


 

Please be advised we arrived and are secure in Genoa, Italy ( Porto Vechio Marina ) at 1415 local time. Weather overnight again was quite nice but with a little more sea for some reason from the SW. Overall a very very good crossing with more days than not that were calm or very light, one could not ask for more than that with a very good crew and a proven vessel. Thank you.


 

 


 

Here are some final details ; 


 

 


 

Arrival -                                     1415 local 1215 UTC


 

Distance logged from St Martin –             4,113


 

Distance logged from Gibraltar -             850


 

Fuel on Gib Departure -                     137,200


 

Fuel on Genoa arrival -                    107,231 Consumed 30,000 L


 

 


 

Further, upon rising this am I was very unfortunately advised that overnight there was a shipping accident in the Genoa, Italy harbor itself.  The harbor control tower for the entire port was knocked over completely into the water with as many as 10 people inside, yes  it completely collapsed, as it was hit by a ship that was maneuvering that obviously had a problem of some sort. Resultantly, the port was closed all morning. We slowed some while the phone lines lit up with our agent, and fortunately we were able to gain clearance and enter the port at 130pm and proceed to our berth inside the main port. When passing the incident location, there was a large safety zone keeping vessels at bay, and the reality of the accident hit home for the crew. BIG ACCIDENT with loss of life too. Here below is what the tower looked like before, and now.

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Paul

Damn. Very sorry to hear of this loss.

 

What a hell of an ending to such a great thread. :(

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From Sky.com, 6:22pm UK, Wednesday 08 May 2013:

 

At least seven people have died and six are missing after a container ship smashed into a control tower at the port of Genoa.

 

Unconfirmed reports have suggested engine failure of the Jolly Nero ship could have been to blame for the crash after one of the pilots was quoted as saying: "Two engines seem to have failed and we lost control of the ship."

 

Part of the tower, in which about 14 people were present at the time of the crash, collapsed into the water.

 

One of the victims is thought to be a woman in her 30s, while at least two of the others are men. Six people have been reported seriously injured.

 

Some of those missing are understood to have been trapped under rubble or in a lift which may have fallen into the sea.

 

Some rescue workers dived into the water around the port in a frantic search to find survivors while others have been using dogs trained to find people in earthquake zones to see if survivors were trapped under the rubble.

 

At daybreak, a mobile telephone began to ring beneath the wrecked structure raising hopes of locating people alive, but it rang off before rescue workers could find it.

 

Italian emergency workers found one badly injured man in the rubble of the control tower.

 

The man worked as a telephone operator and has been named locally as 50-year-old Maurizio Potenza.

 

An employee of the Genoa-based Messina Line company, which owns the vessel, said: "There was an accident when the ship was leaving the port.

 

"It ran into the tower, but we don't know why at this point, nor how many people are hurt."

 

Claudio Burlando, president of the Liguria region that is home to the northwestern port city, told SKY TG 24 that the ship was being conducted by an on-board pilot and two tug boats, one in front and one behind.

 

"It was a manoeuvre done hundreds of times. We're all wondering what could have happened," he said.

 

"The weather conditions were perfect, there was no wind, there were no other ships on the move," Luigi Merlo, the head of Genoa's port authority, told reporters.

 

The crash happened during a shift change at the vast metal tower, which meant more people were present.

 

The tower bent over 45 degrees before collapsing, leaving only what looked like an emergency staircase standing.

 

Roberto, the port's night watch, told La Repubblica newspaper: "I heard a terrible din and rushed out of my cabin. It was an incredible sight: the control tower was leaning perilously."

 

The Jolly Nero is almost 200m (655ft) long, 30m (98ft) wide, and weighs over 40,500 tons.

 

The ship's owner, Stefano Messina, choked back tears as he said: "We are all utterly shocked. Nothing like this has ever happened before."

 

The Jolly Nero's captain is being questioned by police on suspicion of manslaughter.

 

Italians are still reeling from the Costa Concordia shipwreck off Giglio island in 2012 which left 32 people dead.

 

Hearings against six suspects in the cruise liner disaster began in Italy on April 15.

 

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