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Well as a forum member and not as a moderator i must tell you that this comment is a flagrant  piece of garbage  and totally unworthy of being posted -.   Posting that people deserve to be murdered

I would love to see a complete chronology of the events that led up to this murder/suicide. This didn't start when he walked through "security" and into the Palace of Justice with two guns. It sounds

No one has said that you are not allowed a point of view Alan. They have just said that in this case your point of view stinks.   And also  that it is unusual for you  to say such a nonsensical kind o

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Eventually it escalated into the doctor trying to force the old man out of the country via his connections.

 

 

If this is true then I appreciate a bit more his frustration.  This is the same method that many filipinas have used/tried to use to get rid of foreign husbands and take their property. I have been threatened this way twice myself.  [ once in a business deal, and once by a friends gf who states she has no use for foreigners - she even tried to get my friend deported ! ]

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He shot a mother in the head! 

 

 

I believe that is the 2nd time you said that, and it makes no sense to me.  Shooting someone is shooting someone, and whether or not they are a mother or a father, or a woman w/o children or a man w/o children is irrelevant 

 

Maybe she was a terrible mother who only cared about her career and her children were actually raised by a string of yayas  and the children wont even know she is gone - maybe the children are grown up -[ which is probably the case since she was in her 40s in which case her kids are most likely in their 20s] 

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Pope had been quoted as saying at the time that the pistol he was carrying was for self-defence.

"I wanted to be prepared," Pope said to ABS-CBN News in the Philippines last year. "This guy, Rafols, once came to my apartment at 2 o'clock in the morning with two armed police officers and an armed bodyguard with their guns out and swung a baseball bat inches from my face."

 

Both of these articles are worth reading - but i cant open them : [ thank you Woolf ]

 

Who is John Pope?

 

Neighborhood dispute triggered it all

 

So according to Pope his life in his condo was made a living hell by the doctor he killed.  Seems the doctor was president of the HOA . Seems money was stolen by the manager but the doctor refused to properly investigate or prosecute.  Seems the doctor was making threats against Pope backed up by armed guards - guns in hand.  Seems the doctor got the condo guards to continually harass Pope .  Seems that when the 2 men couldnt settle their dispute the doctor then had the HOA [of which he was president] complain to the Canadian government in an effort to get Pope deported.  Seems Pope -during his formative years - was an American .  [ ok - that one i just put in for fun-lets face it, no country has a monopoly on crazies]

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as much as you might like to . I have certainly had such feelings.
I think this is Alan's point in a nutshell.
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He shot a mother in the head! 

 

 

I believe that is the 2nd time you said that, and it makes no sense to me.  Shooting someone is shooting someone, and whether or not they are a mother or a father, or a woman w/o children or a man w/o children is irrelevant 

 

Maybe she was a terrible mother who only cared about her career and her children were actually raised by a string of yayas  and the children wont even know she is gone - maybe the children are grown up -[ which is probably the case since she was in her 40s in which case her kids are most likely in their 20s] 

 

 

 

I said it the second time because he (Alan S) wrote "At least he did something." I was trying to wake him up. Maybe it is just me, but the notion of sneaking up on a mother and shooting her in the head precludes my having sympathy for someone. It is weird having to explain this. On one of the links there is a picture of her with her family. Even if her kids are now in their 20s, I am sure that they are very traumatized, as would be her husband.

 

Your muttering, "Maybe she was a bad mother..." is weird. 

 

And I, both times, mentioned the two men he murdered, too, and did not seek to make light of their murders.

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as much as you might like to . I have certainly had such feelings.

I think this is Alan's point in a nutshell.

Feelings plus two dollars equals one cup of coffee. The guy went on a murder spree. No amount of psychobabble can diminish his guilt.

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The guy went on a murder spree. No amount of psychobabble can diminish his guilt.

You quote a comment on Alan's post and then talk about the guy on a murder spree?

 

About your comment, diminished capacity DOES diminish guilt to a jury of his peers, good thing you are not one of his peers.

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Your muttering, "Maybe she was a bad mother..." is weird. 

 

 

 

You know that I only said that because you were making a big thing out of her having born children at some point in her life. I have no problem about what you say on this whole subject -except your making it sound like motherhood is next to Sainthood   lol 

 

 

btw I dont mutter- I state my views quite clearly I believe .  

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The guy went on a murder spree. No amount of psychobabble can diminish his guilt.

 

You quote a comment on Alan's post and then talk about the guy on a murder spree?

 

About your comment, diminished capacity DOES diminish guilt to a jury of his peers, good thing you are not one of his peers.

Most murderers are angry. Let's see---"Anger is a form of temporary insanity"---acquit!  Face it---it is  VERY easy to judge this guy fully guilty of his actions. 

 

Alan's post, which also praised the notion of shooting Filipino (presumably) politicians (this forum is getting loopy---it should not have allowed that to be said) got mealy-mouthed about the murderer's culpability.

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There used to be the defence of " irresistible impulse"   ie I just couldnt stop myself  !!

 

 

 They have done away with that now as  a defence 

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