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Mr. Mike

The unions are the workers. One worker stands up and gets fired, a thousand workers stand up and then management has to deal with them and their concerns. You obviously are anti-union. No I am not, you do not listen That's your right. But the right to collective bargaining Within reason! is the law of the land and you have to respect that.

 

Companies will do ANYTHING Define "anything"! to increase profits.Without profit, there IS no company,NO employees, NO unions, NO salaries! The laws that are in place to protect workers are there because of unions. The unions gave us weekends, sick pay, paid holidays, safe working conditions and they built the middle class. I will concede your point, to a degree,,, but it is not that simple! I would suggest you do some reading on the history of unions and their impact on building a strong America.I have and they had a value and a place, and time, and history,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but they (unions) are a jaded , and self absorbed, entities ,claiming to $$$ they have yet to prove they are worthy of!

 

The WTO and NAFTA have helped to destroy unions in this country. American companies are chomping at the bit to send American jobs to poor third world countries that have none of these benefits. Yes we have income re-distribution in this country but it's income going from the bottom to the top, not the other way around. Class warfare is going on but the rich are winning.

 

Until we come up with a solution to level the playing field, then the decline of unions will continue and I despair at the thought of America becoming more like the Philippines, with the haves and the have nots and not much in between.

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but they (unions) are a jaded , and self absorbed, entities ,claiming to $$$ they have yet to prove they are worthy of!

 

And the pimps on Wall St are not?

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Mr. Mike

And the pimps on Wall St are not?

Oh stop it!,,,,,,,,,,,,Wall Street is your problem?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it keeps me above water!
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Define "anything"!

 

How about Walmart for example. Below poverty level wages. Their employees are the worst compensated of any major company in the U.S. I'm sure you'll say "they chose to work there". Well, if that's the ONLY job in town, then it's better than welfare. Most of their employees don't have health insurance and they keep a large percentage of them working 28 hours per week or less to make sure it stays that way. Who pays for their health care? We do. The taxpayers do. Thousands and thousands of their employees have to rely on food stamps just to feed their kids. Holidays? Well now they're opening on Thanksgiving. Christmas will be next. I'm sure these abuses would be much worse if not for laws that were passed years ago to protect workers from companies like Walmart.

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Oh stop it!,,,,,,,,,,,,Wall Street is your problem?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it keeps me above water!

 

I'm sure you loved them back in 2008. How many sleepless nights did you have?

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Without profit, there IS no company,NO employees, NO unions, NO salaries!

 

I said to "increase" profits. I didn't say no profits. Every company has a right to profits. I used to own a large percentage of a company and we paid our employees very well. You can make a profit without "profiting" off the misery of others.

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Having read all of the posts and thought about it a bit I would have to go along with Mr. Mike. He had, by far. the most intelligent responses.

In regards to why some people are more deserving than others. The same with the union officials. Big salaries, generous retirement, lots of opportunities for graft.= Union officials.

How about the U.S. government takes over and runs Hostess.

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I'm sure you loved them back in 2008. How many sleepless nights did you have?

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,honestly,,,,,,,,,,more than a few, but I am still in business!
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I said to "increase" profits. I didn't say no profits. Every company has a right to profits. I used to own a large percentage of a company and we paid our employees very well. You can make a profit without "profiting" off the misery of others.

I agree, never did, and I WILL not!
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,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,honestly,,,,,,,,,,more than a few, but I am still in business!

 

Then I'm sure you very thankful for the taxpayer bailouts...right?

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You can make a profit without "profiting" off the misery of others.

 

I cannot recall any first world, non union, employees who are in misery. For me its about fear/security. The non union employees in many companies have to live with the fear that one mistake, or one bad day that their boss is having, means the end of the job for them.

 

There are some great non union employers. Their employees have respect for the company and do a great job because of it. There are some horrible union jobs where the employees take advantage of their overly secure positions. But the average company vs union relationship is a pretty good way to maintain a balance between profits and working conditions. Do unions cost the company money? Yes. They cost the employees money too but thats life.

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I'm curious what the pay is for the top executives of the unions made last year as they helped cause a company hiring 18,000 of their members to have to close their doors, and lose their 18,000 members their jobs and benefits?

 

I wonder if these same union executives are going to take cuts in their salaries so they can give back some of their pay back to the 18,000 members they personally helped to put on the streets?

 

 

 

 

Well Dems do hate big business; so "YEeaahhh!" score one for the socialist Liberal left...and with so many of those greedy evil big businesses now teetering on the very edge of closure, there will surely be many many more of these little victorious 'Yeah's" for them to celebrate in be coming in the next 4 years. Soon there will be no big business left for the unions to bow, bend, and break, and no union employees to pay the dues necessary to support the big Unions. Everybody wins, and everybody looses... That is what happens when fools try to have their "Twinkies" and eat them too...they all get the "Ho Ho" by the "Ding Dongs".

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top executives of the unions made last year as they helped cause a company hiring 18,000 of their members to have to close their doors

 

Well Sarg, you need to explain how that works. In Unions I have had anything to do with the Top Executives take everything to the membership to vote on. Could be the employees were greedy and voted against the recommendations of the execs. It aint the military, its democracy. The union members voted on everything and are responsible for their own fate.

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Looks like another case of "Ring the bell conductor, I'm on the bus".

 

(UK saying, hope you guys from across the pond can get that)

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