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I am assuming that you guys in Cebu like me in Manila are constantly having the telephone lines stolen and having them replaced. My point is just Simple Man said there is no way its not seen or known. But nothing is said. Nothing. Just like Robert I have taken before I moved here my nieces and their friends to Enchanted Kingdom, its the RP's Disneyland and they were at the time younger than 13. And like Enoomai said if it was not for the Forum I would not have known about the law. And those that say he should have a recipt, etc. Really? Again I am assuming that in Cebu like Manila you have signs all over the place saying get a recipt, demand a receipt,etc. Again, because we do not have all the facts and to me the relatives were not the ones who called the PNP and the PNP has already found him gulity has me giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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i personally have nothing to say at this point on is he guilty or not... and looking back i remember taking not one young girl 12 years old but also her sister 14 years old in a taxi to a resturant fo

Even if his intentions are good, he deserves the hassle for his stupidity, ignorance, and naivete for a 67 year old.

The sad part is, as my wife pointed out, they can and likely will manipulate the girl into saying whatever they want in an effort to justify this arrest. The guys intentions may well have been good (h

http://www.lawphil.n..._7610_1992.html

 

 

Section 3. Definition of Terms.

(a) "Children" refers to person below eighteen (18) years of age or those over but are unable to fully take care of themselves or protect themselves from abuse, neglect, cruelty, exploitation or discrimination because of a physical or mental disability or condition;

 

Section 10. Other Acts of Neglect, Abuse, Cruelty or Exploitation and Other Conditions Prejudicial to the Child's Development.

 

(b.) Any person who shall keep or have in his company a minor, twelve (12) years or under or who in ten (10) years or more his junior in any public or private place, hotel, motel, beer joint, discotheque, cabaret, pension house, sauna or massage parlor, beach and/or other tourist resort or similar places shall suffer the penalty of prision mayor in its maximum period and a fine of not less than Fifty thousand pesos (P50,000): Provided, That this provision shall not apply to any person who is related within the fourth degree of consanguinity or affinity or any bond recognized by law, local custom and tradition or acts in the performance of a social, moral or legal duty.

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I wonder if all the people expressing righteous indignation and calling this guy stupid, ignorant, naive etc would themselves be aware of the terms of RA 7610 and the Anti-Child Abuse Law if not for forums like this? Maybe he doesn't spend all his time reading them as some do.

 

I found out today that I'm stupid, ignorant and naive! I have had 3 trips to Cebu and had never heard of it. The last trip I had my girls neice stayed with us quite a lot. When we were out....in a taxi and Lenny went into a shop....or in the mall and I was somewhere with the neice and Lenny was in another store, there were times where I could be deemed to be alone with her....Is this a crime? Could I be charged with child abuse from this?

 

Definately an eye opener for me!

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Republic Act 7610 or the Anti-Child Abuse Law declares unlawful any person “keeping in his company a minor, 12 years or under or who is 10 years or more his junior in any public or private place” when the adult is not a relative or has any “bond recognized by law, local custom and tradition” or is not acting in the performance of a social, moral or legal duty.

 

Is taking a little girl to the doctor on her parents go-ahead not a moral duty?

 

 

 

 

I typed in "hassle" not punishment. He's a Darwinian candidate for sure good or bad.

 

At his age I would imagine not.

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I hope to hear the complete story some how because many a times we try to do good for others with out thinking about ourselves , for his sake I hope it was for the good. He should have some family with him just so there would be no misunderstanding.

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now I wonder if the guy was not a foreigner ..........................................................

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Apropos for a pedophile, a horrible fate for a Samaritan.

 

Just want to point out he maybe be a pedophile but there is no law against THAT, what you probably meant was "child molester", which is different. Pedophilia speaks to thoughts and desires, they feel attracted in an inappropriate way to prepubescent persons, but they may or may not ACT on it. Depends on the person.

 

Child molesters are those who have acted wickedly.

 

 

 

 

And thats the freakin problem! We automatically assume that all old guys are perverts so that we can't even help a kid anymore. Is that what you want to see here? If he's a perv then hang him. If he's trying to help because the kid has no parents and the grandparents have no money or are not able to travel to Cebu then give him a medal. If the neighbor does not like him for whatever reason, tell him/her to mind their own business. I can tell you from experience that when a REAL crime is committed the neighbors don't see shit.

 

Thank you god I feel like I'm the only one who tries to assume the best sometimes.

 

 

 

 

i personally have nothing to say at this point on is he guilty or not... and looking back i remember taking not one young girl 12 years old but also her sister 14 years old in a taxi to a resturant for a surprise birthday party for the youngest and the reason i was tasked to bring them as their mom ,,, my wife was already there setting up the baloons and banners... i never crossed my mind at that time that i could of been arrested but i guess if i was i could look foward to lots of things being said about me in a forum,, guess my mind wasnt thinking of how it would look only that this would be a day to remember for the youngest daughter of my wife... silly me lets at least wait for the glrl to say something

 

Indeed, I have a house full of GF relatives here and I really (now) have to be careful because the law essentially assumes all men are sex perverts. Marvelous.

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He would have been ok if Filipino because he does not stick out like a turd in a punch bowl.

 

His ignorance of the law is no excuse for his action. It is not like he was going to a birthday party or to a theme park. That your wives are aware of. He is an individual traveling alone with only a underage girl. He did not just travel to the doctor he got on a ship and sailed with her over night. Stupid.... If he is innocent I have an investment program I would like to get him involved in.

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Why is that we spend so much time trying to get these people off - trying to make excuses for them - if a 67 yr old Filipino was found at an airport, train station or anywhere else in Australia with a 9 yr old girl, with no documentation that he was a friend of the family, or that he had just come from a hospital or a doctors office - how much time would you spend wringing your hands about this poor foreigner being railroaded?

 

 

How do we know that he doesn't have documentation? Would the police tell us? The press?

 

I seem to recall a man named Berger who had a rock solid alibi that the police knew about early on, but yet he spent two weeks in lockup while police attempted to build a case against him anyway, KNOWING FULL WELL HE WAS INNOCENT!!!

 

Give the man the benefit of the doubt, "innocent until proven guilty?"

 

Not in this country.

 

Larry in Dumaguete

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I don't see why the guy went himself, when I'm sure there are plenty of family that would have taken the trip with the girl.

 

I was not aware of the law, but I would feel uncomfortable walking around with a 9 yo girl that was not blood related to me in the Philippines. I think any sensible person should understand how that would look and the attention it may draw.

 

So interesting question... Has anyone living in the Philippines that has a young daughter to your Filipina spouse, been questioned as to why you are alone with a young Filipina? Sometimes it's not obvious that mixed children are mixed. Has anyone had problems with this?

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Section 10 says "ANY PERSON" so that is male or female

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I have an investment program I would like to get him involved in.

 

 

damn, not another one !! we havent even gotten the last one sorted out yet !!

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well, in another thread i advised foreigners to stay clear of single mothers for this reason (as well as others). General consensus seemed to be I was bonkers.

 

It is quite simply far too dangerous to be around children/minors in this country;

 

first because it is illegal (which is fair enough the Philippines has decided to tackle child abuse as they see fit, which is their right)

second the "hang em high" drunken vigilantes say no smoke without fire and act accordingly.

 

My advice: it doesn't matter what your intentions are - stay away from minors.

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To date i have never been approached or asked by any authorities. I have been asked by the lookie loos were the nieces mine. Look Tim and others make good points that at the very least he is as stupid as a bag of rocks if he is innocent. But to fry him for not being up on the laws here I say you better fry 99% of the population too because most locals are not aware of the laws of their own country too. And Yes Mike you are right that its required to give receipts but I can't tell you how many times I have gone to the store, etc and I was not given a receipt. And I know I am not alone even though the BIR signs are all over the place. I say for the PNP not to get excited because he is a foreigner but rather contact her relatives and talk to them first. After its determined that he did kidnap the girl charge him. If on the other hand they gave him permission then slap him a fine and let him go.

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