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Exactly the question I asked why would they. His only response was why not.

 

 

 

Why not ?

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dude i am 60 years old now and have been hearing of one dooms day after another and yet still we are here... just enjoy life and let the skittso types worry about end of days.

The OP article is full of shit and nonsense.   I suggest to read decent newspapers/magazine with real and full background info.   here is one :   http://www.spiegel.de/international/

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What a load of absolute rubbish. The very last thing Russians want is to be part of the EU or the Euro and there is nobody in the Russian administration even faintly in favour. Prime Minister Putin - who will be Russia's next President - is dead against such a move.

Exactly the question I asked why would they. His only response was why not.

 

i say it again.. why not ? we just have to wait maybe a decade or two.

 

As modern (changed) times showed, nothing is impossible. I wish we had a forum dating back to 1985 with some guys opinion about what has happened since 1989.

 

Lets talk about it in ten or twenty years.

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Then why not for many countries to join. It makes no sense. There has to be a reason they would or why you think they would. I can see no economic or benefit to the EU or those countries. In 10-20 years we may see a world currency. Though I doubt it.

 

- The USA is so fecked up economically, that the "commie" Chinese and Russian now own them.

 

As for that statement they own a piece of paper that says we own you money. There is no collateral behind that piece of paper. They actual own nothing. It is the glory of Fiat Currency. Just ask the 50% that have Greek paper.

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As for that statement they own a piece of paper that says we own you money. There is no collateral behind that piece of paper. They actual own nothing. It is the glory of Fiat Currency. Just ask the 50% that have Greek paper.

i already said in the next post, that i was "pulling a leg".

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Then why not for many countries to join. It makes no sense. There has to be a reason they would or why you think they would. I can see no economic or benefit to the EU or those countries. In 10-20 years we may see a world currency. Though I doubt it.

 

They are joining, mate, not many left to join.

World currency ? is most probably possible when US and EURO get interlinked, which they talk about.

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The Euro is like the ideas of utopia.

Great in theory, but will never happen.

 

Unfortunately we, the public, are paying for an experiment that benefits the few, and does nothing for the majority (except cost them money).

 

And, before anyone says, "you have vote", no we dont. All our political parties made solemn promises to hold a referendum but failed to do so because they know the outcome wouldnt be what they want.

 

In other countries, the same has happened so they kept on asking until the EU gestapo got the answer they wanted.

And when they dont, they, the unelected officials, just force their own people and policies into positions of power.

 

It is the most corrupt, immoral and unethical organisation ever.

But, we dont have any say in the matter.

And THAT is good reason why war can often be the only answer!

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The Euro is like the ideas of utopia. Great in theory, but will never happen.

 

Ehmm it already happened quite a while ago now, except for those that did not join :rofl:

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i say it again.. why not ? we just have to wait maybe a decade or two.

 

It will never happen - not least because it would be of no benefit to Russia or Russians. Do you really think a family living in Vladivostok would appreciate being told how to run his life by some nincompoop bureaucrat sitting in an office ten time zones away? I don't think so.

 

Next you'll be telling us that the United States will join the EU and the Eurozone. Oh wait .. you already hinted as much:

 

World currency ? is most probably possible when US and EURO get interlinked, which they talk about.

 

But who is "they" - certainly not the Americans!

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Germany is strong now for 2 main reasons. They have a work ethic and ingenuity nearly as strong as Americans, and when they joined the EU changing from DM's to euros devalued their currency which is a huge advantage to exporters. Similarly to China, except the Chinese illegally keep their currency low which will be one of the things that drives them under from internal strife and corruption.

 

It is Germany that will make or break the EU at this moment in time.

 

And Catman you can't call right wing people Nazi's because Nazi's were socialists with most of the same goals as American democrats.

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Mark my words, you are not seeing the collapse of Western Europe, what you are witnessing is the Rise of Germany. They are the true card holders and beneficiaries.

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It will never happen - not least because it would be of no benefit to Russia or Russians. Do you really think a family living in Vladivostok would appreciate being told how to run his life by some nincompoop bureaucrat sitting in an office ten time zones away? I don't think so.

LOL, they are used to it since generations...try to think and feel like a Russian.

 

Next you'll be telling us that the United States will join the EU and the Eurozone. Oh wait .. you already hinted as much:

Both Central banks work on it actually.

 

 

But who is "they" - certainly not the Americans!

I hope they dear members don't jump at my throat now, but who has ever been asked by their respective governments of what to do or not? That applies for all countries.

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Germany is strong now for 2 main reasons. They have a work ethic and ingenuity nearly as strong as Americans, and when they joined the EU changing from DM's to euros devalued their currency which is a huge advantage to exporters.

 

It is Germany that will make or break the EU at this moment in time.

 

And Catman you can't call right wing people Nazi's because Nazi's were socialists with most of the same goals as American democrats.

objection - German work ethic is beyond any means. One could best describe it as national obsessive compulsive disorder :twocents: I can't (won't) say anything about ingenuity though.

 

Devalued ? Actually the Euro suffers from severe overvaluation towards the US$, taken into context the original idea of 1:1, its now about 50% higher than the average since the early 90ties. All Exports got way more expensive (for the US or US$ countries) its a sheer miracle that the Economy survived this debacle over the past 10 years.

Same applies to the UK btw. their Pound "lost" value, which makes their exports cheaper and their Imports more expensive.

But they can sustain their local market with "home" products.

 

No comment on your "NAZI" joke. (I hope it was a joke)

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Mark my words, you are not seeing the collapse of Western Europe, what you are witnessing is the Rise of Germany. They are the true card holders and beneficiaries.

The good thing is that its either all rise or fall. Its the EU, not a singular country anymore.

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Nazi's were socialists with most of the same goals as American democrats.

 

 

You must be a very devout Republican indeed to state that American democrats have most of the same goals as the Nazi's did !!

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You must be a very devout Republican indeed to state that American democrats have most of the same goals as the Nazi's did !!

 

No actually I'm a libertarian/conservative. Both Nazi's and democrats are left winger that promote socialism, gun control, environmental issues, government control of business, and eugenics(subjugation/elimination of minorities).

 

Who do you think gave Hitler his ideas on racial purity? That came from the US, specifically the democrat party. The clinics in Germany euthanasia of the handicapped were inspired by Democrats.

 

The civil rights bill was pushed through by republicans with democrats in opposition.

 

78% of all abortion clinics are in minority neighborhoods.

 

Welfare was designed as a weapon against both capitalism and minorities. Before welfare black single mothers were only 24%, the just surpassed 80% because why have a father around when you can get a free check.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#Germany

During the 1930s and 1940s, the Nazi regime forcibly sterilized hundreds of thousands of people whom they viewed as mentally and physically unfit, an estimated 400,000 between 1934 and 1937. The scale of the Nazi program prompted one American eugenics advocate to seek an expansion of their program, with one complaining that "the Germans are beating us at our own game".

 

Nazi's being conservative is the greatest bit of propaganda in world history. They were simply a different flavor of socialists than the communists which is why FDR didn't want into WWII because democrats favored Hitler and Stalin. In fact the Venona Project proved most of FDR's administration was comprised of soviet agents.

Hell the prime minister of canada flew down to tell FDR his administration was compromised and he didn't believe him or he supported it.

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