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"Military men are just dumb, stupid pawns to be used to control foreign policy" a quote made by Henry Kissinger. Google it if you don't believe me.

 

In reality they could care less about retired and former military, as you are a perceived drain on the system. Just do some research into how the VA treats disabled vets and that will tell you all you ever need to know.

 

None of my children will ever serve in any military, in any country, period. As the economy continues to fall apart in the USA, they will not have a shortage of applicants who have no alternative.

 

I did my time in the USMC so I can say this stuff ; to anyone who wants to hate on me.

 

 

 

As time goes on I may or may not want to "hate on you" but never for speaking your mind

 

Semper Fi

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I think I would have liked to see a drastic cut in foreign aid (most especially Pakistan - they got over a billion dollars every year for last decade) over any cuts to military personnel; active, reti

I know I am late in replying to this thread, but have you ever checked the voting records of Republicans vs Democrats when it comes to support for Veterans? I also would like to know your source rega

Fine, start with the people that did nothing for what they're getting.

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"Military men are just dumb, stupid pawns to be used to control foreign policy" a quote made by Henry Kissinger. Google it if you don't believe me.

 

In reality they could care less about retired and former military, as you are a perceived drain on the system. Just do some research into how the VA treats disabled vets and that will tell you all you ever need to know.

 

 

The intellectual elites have always viewed the military that way. They went to great lengths to avoid even getting drafted.

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MarinePride

The intellectual elites have always viewed the military that way. They went to great lengths to avoid even getting drafted.

I just wish that the young people would wake up to it all. When I was 18, I didn't have a clue because there wasn't an internet.

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Call me crazy but we have as president a man who hates his country. Read his writings do a Google search instead of looking at his Colgate smile and teleprompter speeches.

 

I won't call you crazy since it's a bannable offense to say derogatory things about members of this forum, but I will say that the above statement is wrong and that my respect for you is diminished along with the other moderator who posted his hate filled rant in this thread. The same people that constantly yell about deficit reduction are the same ones that cry when their entitlements get cut. Welcome to the party pal.

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Man, the liberals are coming out of the woodwork, today! :rofl:

 

I think most everyone here knows how I feel and how much I support the military fighting men and women. So, I won't go into that. But, they deserve a hell of a lot more than they have ever gotten, from the US government. They need our support.

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I think I would have liked to see a drastic cut in foreign aid (most especially Pakistan - they got over a billion dollars every year for last decade) over any cuts to military personnel; active, retired, or disabled.

 

Take care of our own first and foremost.

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TheMatrix

When you put a wolf in charge of the heard of sheeple and then one should not be too surprised if there are bits taken out of our asses.

 

fer sure, fer sure!

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USMC-Retired

The biggest cut was restructuring the military retirement for all military that was less then 15 years. It will save the government money because it will go on the back of irresponsible young adults that do not invest in the future. It has nothing to do with current benefits but future ones. If you read on how they are going to restructure the retirement benefits for the military for future you will see.

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With the economy the way that it is I know it is not popular but the best thing to do for the country long term is to cut cost. As things get better then you add your pet entitlement programs, not now. And especially on the back of needed services and programs such as the military. Don't believe me, ask the RP. The RP is hit every year with natural disasters but because the AFP is a skeleton crew at best, they are not in position to aid in rescue efforts on a regular basis. Thats due to the the AFP and the PNP being the slush fund for crooks like the Ligots and the country suffers. if the States continues as James actually stated in his post the US military will be on the road towards becoming like the AFP. Call me crazy but we have as president a man who hates his country. Read his writings do a Google search instead of looking at his Colgate smile and teleprompter speeches.

I sincerely hope there is a Truman - Regan type leader still being produced by our culture, one who steps up from out of the wings, and forcefully leads the bunch of yahoo yes-men we presently have to choose from. It seems like the man with the biggest balls, in the Halls, these days actually belong to Hillary: and that is just sad. Maybe that leader was aborted while still a fetus.........................................

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The debt ceiling has been raised by every president since the 1960's by I believe the figure is 18%.The president inherited a mess.Every step he takes is hammered for political gains.Then we find that when the opposition may get in in 2012 does nothing different,only its camoflauged as a different package.When the opposition gets in they will then again hammer this president that he caused the problems for the USA but its wrong in the minds of the opposition to disclose that the one before this pres. caused the mess.You know who that was.And the beat goes on..................and military will now be cut.

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eventually if they really want to fix things everyone's gonna have to take a bite of the shit sandwich

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I won't call you crazy since it's a bannable offense to say derogatory things about members of this forum, but I will say that the above statement is wrong and that my respect for you is diminished along with the other moderator who posted his hate filled rant in this thread. The same people that constantly yell about deficit reduction are the same ones that cry when their entitlements get cut. Welcome to the party pal.

 

I think the information that Headshot provided is very good - but open for discussion - House Republicans are not that concerned with pay and benefits as they are with building Jets with two different engines so that two different House Districts will receive funding in two different states -

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Man, the liberals are coming out of the woodwork, today! :D

 

I think most everyone here knows how I feel and how much I support the military fighting men and women. So, I won't go into that. But, they deserve a hell of a lot more than they have ever gotten, from the US government. They need our support.

 

I don't think there is anyone on this forum that doesn't know what stripes I wear - But there is one thing that I keep up on and that is benefits for Veterans - in my post #4 I ask that each of you look at how your representatives voted on different bills - you can get this information from just about any of the Service Organizations - VFW, DAV, American Legion, IAVA to name just a few - please ignore the rhetoric and look at the voting record

 

You talk about Reagan - Reagan had an idea that would save money - he wanted all Veterans who were receiving care through the VA system to re-apply for their benefits - while they were re-applying they would be removed from the benefits listings - now when Reagan was president there were a lot more WWII Vets around so this idea may have impacted some Fathers and Grandfathers - imagine how you would have felt if your Father had lost a leg in WWII and he lost his medical care and wheel chair, while re-applying for his benefits

 

Needless to say ALL the Service Organizations pushed back on that Idea and the idea was dropped.

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I've been away from the computer since I started the post, so thanks to Headshot for filling in for me.

 

I heard it on CNN yesterday morning. They are considering cutting benifits in some areas, but want to give a pension to thoes who served less than 20 years. Seems like a big juggling act, with the usual smoke and mirrors, so one one can figure out what is REALLY going to happen in the end.

 

The part that got me was nothing was said about the contractors millions of dollars in profit, but the grunts were getting too much "entitlements" and, as you know, we can't expect them to make a decient living while defending their country. Just large corporations should do well defending this country. Makes me sick.

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Stranded Shipscook

The American public wanted a disillusioned military-hating socialist-loving snake oil salesman in charge and it was bound to happen. When you put a wolf in charge of the heard of sheep and then one should not be too surprised if there are bits taken out of our asses. Obama will be reelected in a landslide and then we all will take that thrill ride together to the bottom of the abyss, the fix is already in boys..

 

I told my son to never join the military, rather instead let some damn cowardice politically-correct God-hating tree-hugging socialist-groupie send off his kid to get killed trying to protect his worthless disloyal anti-American ass.

 

Hi James, i also love when you talk like that, a real word artist.

 

Just one mistake in your argument (which is in principal absolutely correct, i am also against cuts of benefits for the soldiers, they should be the last)

 

The cowardice poltically correct GOD hating tree hugging socialist groupie would not send ANYONE to other countries getting killed. They would cut the entire military down to a level of protecting his nation within its borders against attacks from outside.

That is all i am adding.

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