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abw

Just wondering why anyone would go into Hospital for treatment of Dengue since there is no treatment available, I have had it and saw a doctor who diagnosed it and said do you have insurance I said yes he said go to Hospital I said what for, I hear there is no treatment for it he said thats correct but they can watch you LOL

 

Now unless its the bleedig type (very dangerous) no hospitalization should be needed since they can do nothing to treat you

 

Save your money. get a check up make sure its not the bleeding type then wait it out.

 

Painful for sure I was sick as a dog for 3 days and then weeks of painful muscles joints.

 

TFC

 

 

Maybe you should take the advice of your doctor in the future. I also had dengue some time ago. My doctor told me to go straight to hospital, as my platelet count was dropping fast. The reason they strongly recommend you go into hospital is so they can monitor your platelet count. If your platelet count drops below a certain level (which can happen very quickly), you will require a transfusion. A kid (17-18) went into the emergency at same time as me. But he'd left it too late, went into shock and died soon after. Sometimes doctor knows best.

 

Andrew

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Stranded Shipscook

In the view of Big Robs departure on April 1 due to complications of his gall bladder operation, i think his remark, that the health care here is excellent, should undergo a little more intense investigation

 

sorry , i could'nt' resist :angry2:

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Davaoeno

A good report but a couple of questions if I may.

 

The hospital you were in, was that Dumaguete (dgte?) or Cebu? You mention that Caritas covers you for certain hospitals but you don't mention if it covers hospitals where you live. The cost you say is a little more than your ankle bill, is that per annum or for the 10 years. If per annum, I would save the annual premiums as if you dont claim, that is a lot to lose each year. Better to have a credit card with a decent credit limit.

 

 

 

hopefully we can get your questions answered UZI

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greatplace

I don't have medical coverage at the time so had to pay the total bill myself.

 

So after the op and recovery I looked around for medical coverage and took out thier insurance (Caritas Health Shield Expanded Gold). The payment was for the whole 10 years period but you have to be under 65yrs of age.

 

It would now cover me in Silliman Medical and Holychild hospitals here. It covers you in most of the big private hospitals thru out the Philippines. The only hospital that I know off that it doesn't cover is called the Asian Hospital in Manila. The insurance for that is about $1,500 per year.

 

One of the divers here in Dauin was bitten on the lip and had it ripped open by a trigger fish and had to be rushed to the Asian Hospital in Manila for plastic surgery.

 

The staff at the resort in Dauin are all covered by a medical insurance company in Hongkong which uses that hospital. And by the way the staff are foreigners that have this insurance not the pinoy's like cleaners, bar staff and waitresses etc.

 

I don't know if this is the best coverage around in Phil. But I am not cover anymore back in aussie. Not even in the public heath system because I have lived outside of the country too long. If I returned for public health treatment I would have to prove I am back to stay.

 

And frankly my dear that is never never going to happened.

 

This was in Dumaguete (dgte) not Cebu. This was Silliman Medical where I had the operation

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digiteye

In the view of Big Robs departure on April 1 due to complications of his gall bladder operation, i think his remark, that the health care here is excellent, should undergo a little more intense investigation

 

Yeah, one can buy a decent murder way cheaper than 1,5 million. baseballbat.gif

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tuanj

Spot on Andrew. The reason you need to be in the hospital is so that they can monitor the platelet count-and the dextrose administered intravenously is another reason. I suppose you could stay at home and force fluids into you and come in for blood work every 12 hours or so but that seems like asking a great deal of yourself when you are incapacitated by fever and fatigue. I was glad to be in hospital for the two days it took me to get back to my normal self and in hindsight I'm very grateful that I didn't try to treat myself as an outpatient.

 

As for the quality of care, I was at Cebu Doctor's for two nights and was not terribly impressed with the staff. There seemed to be a few very capable doctors and everyone else was sort of running around with their heads cut off. Not that I haven't seen similar incompetence stateside. They did silly stuff to me like waking me very early in the am to ask me how many times I had urinated since 10 the previous night. Kind of a pain in the ass when you're trying to get sleep, rest that you need. There were other times when I felt they had not adequately monitored my vitals. Food was okay, after I asked them for Filipino food which was a lot better than the American meal. The price was a pleasant surprise too, 16,000 PHP for everything, of which 6000 PHP was the hospital owner's fee, also a doctor. Can you say "gouging'?

 

Next time I'm in PH, I'll definitely be getting insurance for the trip. 16 grand was manageable but 160,000 PHP would have broken my bank and not left much for anything else. Akong dos centavos.

 

Maybe you should take the advice of your doctor in the future. I also had dengue some time ago. My doctor told me to go straight to hospital, as my platelet count was dropping fast. The reason they strongly recommend you go into hospital is so they can monitor your platelet count. If your platelet count drops below a certain level (which can happen very quickly), you will require a transfusion. A kid (17-18) went into the emergency at same time as me. But he'd left it too late, went into shock and died soon after. Sometimes doctor knows best.

 

Andrew

 

 

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mpt1947

I wasn't going to say anything about my health problems, but something happened today in my village, that I thought I would share with you all, but first the background

 

I am a 64 yrs old Vietnam Vet - I have Diabetes due to exposure to Agent Orange. I have not yet been to the VA - scheduled for July 13-14.

 

When I arrived last July, I slowly stopped taking my meds and felt great - I do take Concentrated Mineral Drops, and I would watch what I ate, especially after my encounter with my Ameba (Fred). I had lost about 35 pounds and have been able to maintain that lost - that was in October of last year. Most of my illnesses have been weather related - would have a reaction to too much Sun, I would get colds due to rapid temperature changes - still get an occasional cold/stuffy nose.

 

This past March when the weather turned really hot - I started drinking any thing wet - Coke, Pepsi, Root Beer (I am a recovering Alcoholic), Gatorade, Juices and water. I also got into Candy - and I was eating a lot of rice. During April I got sick to my stomach and vomited three weeks out of 4 - during the first week of May I got sick again and one of my brother in laws called for an ambulance - my wife was not at home - she arrived at the same time that the ambulance got there. My Blood Sugar was taken in the Ambulance 330+ and then again when I arrived at the Hospital - 370+ I was given insulin (I take drugs) and was released about 2 days later - Since then I have been taking my drugs, watching my carb intake (I do not eat rice any longer), and check my Blood Sugar 2x a day (for the first two weeks I had checked in 3x a day.) So far it seems I have things back under control - Besides my diet, I am exercising and getting plenty of rest. And watching the heat.

 

This morning my wife got a call from her mother who volunteers at the village clinic - they had a copy of my medical record from my hospital stay and wanted to interview me - Wondering how and why they had my record we walked over. It seems that if anyone in Cebu City is admitted to a hospital regardless of the reason, a report is made to the City and then to the Barangay, then to the Village. I was called in so they could do a follow up with me.

 

At first I felt that my private life was being intruded on - what right did they have to do this? But thinking about it, it makes sense. If I had some kind of communicable disease they should be aware of it. By knowing about me and that I am an American, they can make sure some one is available that can speak English - by letting them know what drugs I take they can have a small supply available - may get them free or at a discount - Also if I have questions regarding my health care, between appts at the VA, I can check with them - cost FREE

 

So, although it would seem that this is an intrusion on my life, in the long run it isn't - it is another resource and I am going to take advantage of it

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JesseBo

I visited Chong Hua 6 times last month for tests, only to find it extremely hot and dirty. you have to do everything yourself, pick up your results ( blood tests, X-Rays, etc...) and worse of all - no appoinments taken, All is first come first served! If this is Cebu's best, we are all in trouble. I was scheduled for MRI - every visit I was told to come back as they were booked full. I was scheduled for a stress test, but the doctor was absent that day. I was told there would be a 6 hour wait just for a sonorgram of my liver! I had to go back 3 times to finally find the specialist to read my catscan. They still have no clue as to cause of my problems - extreme headaches and total fatigue after only a small amount of working. This place is pitiful. I am scheduling a trip back home this year and plan to get tests run there to find out my problem. DO NOT get seriously sick here.

 

But to get back to topic, everything was covered 100% by my wife's insurance Maxicare Healthcare.

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streak03

Normally, If I have anything serious I need to get done, or get a yearly physical exam, etc I go to Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok. Its about the best hospital I have ever been in and takes my insurance no problem. I have Aetna Global through my employer, but I would pay out of pocket if I had to in order to be seen in a decent, clean hospital. I have been to the local hospital/Dr's offices in Bacolod for a couple of minor things and was certainly not impressed.

 

Streak

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Jawny

I had a minor surgery done in Chung Hua over a year ago. The surgery was done well and the surgical staff and the operating facility seemed very nice (what I saw was while on a gurney). I am quite satisfied with the surgery and the staff. As well, the cardiology unit seemed excellent. I had to be screened as all patients do prior to surgery.

 

The facilities were primitive as far as room and food etc. The staff (nurses) on the ward were total airheads. For example, I was awakened at midnight after having been given a sedative for the early morning surgery. The reason....I had to sign a form for the staff to fetch my surgical gown and they had forgotten to get the signature during the day.

 

The cost was reasonable though they did an odd thing. When I checked in I was asked if I had any meds I took and of course I informed them of some routine stuff. Turns out, they included that in my bill, though I had brought with me my own meds. When I asked about it, they explained they were out of stock, but billed me as if I had been receiving them. Oh well, it was better than the $20,000 bill I got for an overnight stay of my infant son at the military hospital in Seoul years earlier.

 

I would recommend Chong Hua for most procedures. I would advise getting lab work done elsewhere (such as Precision Diagnostics).

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smokey

the longest streatch i had was at cebu doc.. the student nurses drove me crazy trying to pratice on taking blood pressure .... the door to the cr on the bottom 6 inches had a black mold i did not like this... i was giving a laxitive only to be told MY cr in my room did not work and i would have to use the one in the hallway... i was wheeled to meet the knife at 5 am but the mesh they sew in was not there so i spent 5 hours laying there waiting.. after the deed was done and i wanted to check out the bed had this plastic on it and was very slippery the tv was like a 12 inch way high on the wall and no remote control you had to ask someone to step on the stool to change the channel the day before check out a guard came in with a wheel chair to bring me to the acct. office i chose to walk with two drips in and you drag them poles along and he helped me to the office i knew i would need money and had the wife bring down most of the money but alas there are always unexpected extras and was helped to the ATM machine .. if i had to do it again i would try to make it back to the us and if not well roll the dice

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enoonmai

I recently spent 22 days in Chong Hua following a serious motorbike accident on 9/27. I had surgery a week after the accident to remove my spleen which had been badly damaged in the accident. I had insurance so, after 3 days in ICU, I was put in a private suite on the 10th floor which was very nice, a long way from primitive, although the food was awful. My gf was allowed, even encouraged, to sleep in the room so she could attend to me, that would have never happened in the states. I wouldn't call the staff airheads but there were a few that seemed not to care much, but they were exceptions. Not an easy job what they do. At first I was awakened around the clock for all kinds of minor things but that's just a matter of talking to your doctor, they can put a quick stop to that and did for me. The level of care in the ICU was very high. Thankfully, I don't have much experience with hospitals but I feel that the overall care I received was excellent. I'm slightly biased, however, because they did save my life.

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TheDuke

Your brave man Robert. I wouldn't let them operate on my dog.

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lazydays

Short, sweet, concise... thanks Rob.

 

Who is your health insurance provider? My Filipino family talks about Phil Health, is that available to foreigners? If not, can you recommend a provider?

 

Jessie, yes Philhealth is available to foreigners, you can be added onto your wifes policy as spouse.

Foreigners may now have their own Philhealth policy, handy if single, but you must prove permanent residency (Visa and ACR- I card) to qualify. (Not Tourist).

 

The cost is now P300 per month, paid quarterly/half year/ or annually. (Gone up since abw days).

Even if one has Private Health Policy they sometimes only pay out 80%, so Philhealth is still a good idea for picking up the shortfall.

 

Check out their website for more info.

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Stranded Shipscook

I only can share 3 experiences in all the years.

1.) Cebu Doc (sever Constipation case, don't laugh, its possible) 2 days in and everything ok, costs moderate, Food lousy, Private room good value for 1100PhP/day with cable/aircon/bath. Hydration fl;uids and med's including doctors and all that 1600 hP. (1998)

 

2.) cebu Doc, had x-rays done and an examination of my shoulder/clavicle after an accident. All straightforward and no problems. Waiting time moderate. All in all 2500 PhP incliding Meds, and an "x-belt" for my torn ligaments to pull the Clavicle back in position. (2009)

 

3.) lately, Government District Hospital in Balamban, examination of Head and Neck trauma, some stitches on my head, multiple wound disinfection and bandaging, 2 tetanus shots PhP 180. i got treated immediately, but this was coincidental because nobody else was there. They wanted to keep me 48 hours for observation, (PhP150/day) but i declined that because my gf studied nursing. The doctor in charge however contacted her a few times via SMS and checked upon my status.

 

All in all i can not say anything negative for a poor country like the Philippines, they are better of than other places i have been. I think, the USA did a great job in the medical system they have build up here during the short period of time. ( One gotta be fair ! )

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