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Holden (GM) and Ford (Australia) conduct their R&D in Australia and export.

 

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Holden

 

Exports

Holden began to export vehicles in 1954, sending the FJ to New Zealand.[139] Exports to New Zealand have continued ever since, but to broaden their export potential, Holden began to cater their Commodore, Monaro and Statesman models for both right- and left-hand drive markets. The Middle East is now Holden's largest export market, with the Commodore sold as the Chevrolet Lumina since 1998, and the Statesman since 1999 as the Chevrolet Caprice.[106] Commodores are also sold as the Chevrolet Lumina in Brunei, Fiji and South Africa, and to Brazil as the Chevrolet Omega.[133][140] Pontiac in North America also imported Commodore sedans from 2008 through to 2009 as the G8.[141] The G8's cessation was a consequence of GM's Chapter 11 bankruptcy resulting in the demise of the Pontiac brand.[142]

Sales of the Monaro began in 2003 to the Middle East as the Chevrolet Lumina Coupe. Later on in the year, a modified version of the Monaro began selling in North America as the Pontiac GTO, and under the Monaro name through Vauxhall dealerships in the United Kingdom. This arrangement continued through to 2005 when the car was discontinued.[143] The long-wheelbase Statesman sales in the Chinese market as the Buick Royaum began in 2005, before being replaced in 2007 by the Statesman-based Buick Park Avenue.[144] Statesman exports to South Korea also began in 2005. These Korean models were sold as the Daewoo Statesman, and later as the Daewoo Veritas from 2008.[145] Holden's move into international markets has been profitable; export revenue increased from AU$973 million in 1999 to just under $1.3 billion in 2006.

 

 

The only known US bike is the Harley, but they are only still going because Ronald Reagan put a 45% tax on large imported bikes to save the company. I won't buy or ride a socialist bike, not even a Meridian Triumph.

 

Harleys Tarnished Reputation

 

{Flame suit on, knowing its a hot topic in Aus :( }

 

Having driven cars in US, and driven cars in Australia, I cant tell much of a difference.

 

Big heavy engines, soft suspension, heavy all around which effects breaking also, and not very good on a fast bend(basic models, mostly test drives in commodores, Falcons, & I bought a Fairmont) I havent driven sporty cars here). But great for sitting at 100km/h for hours on end.

 

European cars are very different designs, lighter more refined engines, less power, giving good power/weight ratio & braking, and stiffer suspension for the twisty european roads. Japanese cars seem to be the same, although they could be Euro spec jap cars.

 

It made sense to me, given the comparible infrastructure between US & Aus (long drives, over straight roads) But I was under the impression(im sure given the passion for Holden Vs Ford here, someone more knowledgeable can correct me), that they were essentially the same vehicles, with the Aussie cars being advertised as tougher. Whether thats PR, or fact I dont know. Could have stiffer welds or biggers rads something ?

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What political influence is that? Everyone wants help $$$$$$ but no .....

 

 

So you dont think America influences world affairs ???

 

 

 

 

yes that influence and 3.00 dollars will get you a starbucks latte

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the bob,

 

very nice report

 

Still have no idea why america is falling behind on quality cars

 

but the cars you mentioned are low class american cars.

 

do you have the better american cars there?

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the bob,

 

very nice report

 

Still have no idea why america is falling behind on quality cars

 

but the cars you mentioned are low class american cars.

 

do you have the better american cars there?

 

Just my basic theory, I know the question wasnt addressed at me... :(

 

I think American cars are not competitive anymore cause the fuel efficiency for one(probably the biggest factor with the state of the world). Although I heard that that has changed since, and now small engine cars are being made & becoming popular. Whether they have the power/weight ratio of the Euro & Jap models I dont know.

 

But also the finish of the car itself, as its such a competitive market. Americans dont expect to pay much for a car, so the materials put into that car are cheaper, to save costs. When I was there a lot of Americans seemed to take the piss out of their own car manufacturing :shocked: , saying the mechanical quality was poor also.

 

So if you think about it that way, you could buy an American car, that could be poorly made(not my opinion I was only a tourist there, so couldnt judge), drink more gas, and break down more. Or buy a Jap car.

 

On the engine effeciency thing. Most Europeans/Japs have been driveing effecient vehicles for years, so they must have access to the technology. BUt that might mean that they have to re-design the factories, with new machinery etc. Which requires lots of money, and money is scarce. So probably they will import the engines.

 

As for better American cars, do you mean more sporty cars, or more luxury cars ??

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the bob,

 

very nice report

 

Still have no idea why america is falling behind on quality cars

 

but the cars you mentioned are low class american cars.

 

do you have the better american cars there?

 

I only have experience of the Japanese and UK markets, but US manufacturers don't have dealer networks in these countries.

 

Taking Japan as an example.

 

Jeeps were sold in Japan years ago, but the build quality was so appalling that nobody bought them. Hummers were also sold, but they had such bad reliability they were just curiosities.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "better" American cars. If you mean "big" then no. America doesn't really make sports cars, so it's difficult to sell them on performance.

The US manufactures have never really made a car for the Japanese market, they have tried to sell big wallowy V8 sedans with the wheel on the wrong side, but they all look huge and soft compared to the popular imports like BMW and Mercedees.

 

The US cars I've seen here are quite cheap, and have nicely outfitted interiors, but horrendous gas mileage and vague steering and handling, don't inspire confidence on the small roads over here. Resale value is terrible. Not to mention trying to park a full size car like that. A Toyota Crown (Lexus 400) is a big car here.

 

I'd say there are more American cars in the Philippines than in Japan.

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Big bad SUV type cars

corvettes

hummers

pinto sports cars

vega hatchbacks

corvairs

edsel

mustang

comero

 

gas @ 3 bucks a gallon

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Big bad SUV type cars

corvettes

hummers

pinto sports cars

vega hatchbacks

corvairs

edsel

mustang

comero

 

gas @ 3 bucks a gallon

 

In Australia from just general observation.....

 

Big SUV's, yes, but they are actually used for what they are desiged for, off roading in the outback, or as work vehicles. Some of the vehicles are very rugged. But not on a bad way, more like, it would give you confidence to take it over a mountain. A bit like the old version Toyota Hilux.

 

Iv seen very few "just for show" SUV's of the American enormous sizes. Medium size Utes are very popular(half car, half pick up/SUV), both for show & as a work vehicle. There are the BMW/Lexus SUV's, just like everywhere else, and they would be mainly for show.

 

But it doesnt compare to the hugh things i seen on US roads(those things with 6 wheels).

 

As for the others, I have seen Mustang type cars(and 1/2 actual mustangs), big engine sporty things. No corvettes, or anything like that, but they are probably here somewhere.

 

There's a lot of European & Jap cars here. The Local brands is the most popular though.

 

If you took away the 2 most populare cars, Ford Falcon & Holden Commodore, then took away the Utes & work vehicles. I think you would be left entirely with Euro & Jap cars.

 

An Aussie is probably going to get on here and rip through my posts, telling me im all wrong, so hopefully you'll get a better idea when one does.

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Ozepete

 

i'm just a little frustrated that a country as large as the usa is fighting to survive,when it was us that lead the world for so many years

we are the country that supports most of the world

 

how is it that you caught up with us?

 

 

We(Australia) have a similar land mass.

A population of about 20 million living mostly on the coast.

Alot of undevelloped resource ie coal, iron ore, uranium,gold, tin etc

Infrastructue to get those resources to port

We have a limitless demand for those resource ie China

 

On the downside we have the same calliber of idiots running the country but the resources booms is such that even they can't f##k it up

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Big bad SUV type cars

corvettes

hummers

pinto sports cars

vega hatchbacks

corvairs

edsel

mustang

comero

 

gas @ 3 bucks a gallon

 

Do Americans even buy SUV's any more?

 

corvettes, Cheap, fast in a straight line, dubious cornering. Skyline GTR will show it a clean set of heels for the same price, with a lot less drama.

 

hummers, only if you have the support of the US military to keep them going?

 

mustang Niche market, styling hasn't aged well.

 

The others on your list are all 'very' obsolete.

 

You missed the Dodge Viper, which is about the most 'sporty' one I can think of because it was developed for endurance racing.

 

 

Most US car manufacturers lost the plot because they opted out of international competition. Racing round in circles in steel bodied coupes, might give manufacturers good product recognition, but it doesn't improve the breed.

 

Ford (Europe) has competed, with success in races like the World Touring Car Championship and the World Rally Championship. It is lessons learnt in this kind of test, that are now being used back in the US and have led to Fords recovery.

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Ozepete

 

i'm just a little frustrated that a country as large as the usa is fighting to survive,when it was us that lead the world for so many years

we are the country that supports most of the world

 

how is it that you caught up with us?

 

Hi Fanboat,

I can understand your frustration.

You are right and unfortunately Australia is following the USA into the same hole only at the moment we are, and have been, somewhat protected by huge natural resources and willing markets.

Just bloody lucky thats all, and yet we have leaders that want to screw that up too! Idiots that couldn't run a chook raffle!

When or if countries can get back to being led by leaders who have the balls to do what has to done (like it or not) instead of what they think will get them re-elected, then and only then will great countries be great again.

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Ozepete

 

i'm just a little frustrated that a country as large as the usa is fighting to survive,when it was us that lead the world for so many years

we are the country that supports most of the world

 

how is it that you caught up with us?

remember money is like shares of stock in a country and i'm sure there are a lot more US dollars floating around out there than there are Aussie Dollars

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