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Cary

Exactly Willie.

 

Ron;

 

As I said before you will have your good and bad areas and good and bad people to know and to avoid. Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds to me that you are reading too many of the bad stories that come out about the RP. No doubt many of those stories are true and some are overblown. Again just like anyother place. Like you I came from so. cal, Los Angeles, specifically. And many of my in-laws were always texting me of the horror stories they heard. I told them the same as I am telling you, some of its true, alot overblown just like any other place. Another thing, Nittany Lion made a great point about your wife. she will be a great source of information and safety for you here as well as her family. As best as you can, turn off the tv, relax and come enjoy your life in the RP.

 

 

Ronald said, "Am wondering after reading all the criminal stats and corrupt cops/officials on a one to ten scale with ten being the most secure and safe how do you feel in the PI? After reading some of the bad happenings regarding theft, robbery, snatchers, and even getting thrown in the "Pokey" for a extortion attempt, or because someone got upset about a non significant issue, does any of this have you concerned or overly concerned? I've been there several times and course not always felt it was a "safe haven", but at the same time enjoyed my time there but then again...would I really want to live there?? Ok, anyway can I have your thoughts, ratings on a one to ten regarding safety and security in the PI?"

 

 

Ronald, you've been in touch with Fanboat since he got back? Talk to him. He would be a great person to talk to about any concerns you may have.

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Baldy

My rating will be 3.

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ronaldnn

Ronald said, "Am wondering after reading all the criminal stats and corrupt cops/officials on a one to ten scale with ten being the most secure and safe how do you feel in the PI? After reading some of the bad happenings regarding theft, robbery, snatchers, and even getting thrown in the "Pokey" for a extortion attempt, or because someone got upset about a non significant issue, does any of this have you concerned or overly concerned? I've been there several times and course not always felt it was a "safe haven", but at the same time enjoyed my time there but then again...would I really want to live there?? Ok, anyway can I have your thoughts, ratings on a one to ten regarding safety and security in the PI?"

 

 

Ronald, you've been in touch with Fanboat since he got back? Talk to him. He would be a great person to talk to about any concerns you may have.

Haven't had any issues with my physical safety and am not worried about that, only mostly concerned about the corruption and scams....Sure have been in touch with Fanboat...nice guy with much infor...

and thanks for writing back...Ron

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USMC-Retired

Lets be real people. Cebu is a large city with large city problems. The justice system is not going to protect you. The system here does not work in your favor. So are you safe? You are the envy of every poor Filipino. They want what you have. However if you attack life like that you will make your life safer.

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smokey

you cant compare what happened to yourself as a judge as to how safe a place is.... the biggest bitch i have with the Philippines is the lack of police response ... If someone does break into your house and your lucky enough to hear it you can grab your cell phone and lock yourself in the bathroom and the next day your still in the bathroom waiting for the police to show up...As long as its legal to have your wife own a gun and you dont have small children in the house do it best investment you will ever make, If your lucky you will never have to use it and if your not so lucky you will be glad you had it.

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musicman666

i never felt i would be killed for no reason while walking through dodgy areas of cebu.. i never felt safe walking through the badlands of LA and i have done both!

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T.S.

usually I keep my wear shorts that have side pockes with velcro covers, so don't have to worry about getting pickpocketed.

 

Are they "cargo pants" style pockets? I met an American soldier at the airport once on his way back to Japan. He thought his wallet would be safe in the velcro side pocket of his cargo shorts, but somebody managed to slice the bottom of the pocket open with a razor or something without him noticing. He showed me the shorts and I was amazed that they were able to cut it all the way across the bottom of the pocket without him feeling it.

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tom_shor

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6 I counted 6. Go for the gusto.

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Ricky

usually I keep my wear shorts that have side pockes with velcro covers, so don't have to worry about getting pickpocketed.

 

Are they "cargo pants" style pockets? I met an American soldier at the airport once on his way back to Japan. He thought his wallet would be safe in the velcro side pocket of his cargo shorts, but somebody managed to slice the bottom of the pocket open with a razor or something without him noticing. He showed me the shorts and I was amazed that they were able to cut it all the way across the bottom of the pocket without him feeling it.

 

I have met people who first realised this when they feel the blood trickling down the leg... Is a common practice in quite a few places, Shanghai, Prague, London.

 

Let's not kid ourselves that the Philippines is the safest place; it certainly has its increased hazards for the naive westerner. It's just a case of adapting, altering your behaviour and finding the right balance for quality of life vs being streetwise and responsible.

As a parent, I worry more about my children when in the Philippines then I do when we are in England, but thats also partly because of us living in the middle of a large city. I'm also careful with my posessions, how I dress and how I behave to try and keep a nice low profile. This works fine for us, but it is a case of adapting.

On the other side, there are many many positives, and you just have to balance everything on the whole. If you really worry, it comes down to making a list of the pro's and con's.

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eggnoggin

Looking extra happy or goofy is the trigger for most opportunists ...the criminal lives in a universe where all happiness vulnerability and optimism is manufactured by preying upon those actually experiencing it...the places you visit and live in the pi are controlled for the most part by criminal politicians all the way down to pickpockets on the street...its a business...errant activity is pretty small...youre always being watched ...from home to the market...from the massage parlor to the bar..there are around 12 major extortion ploys run to conclusion a week in ac ...because most involve drugs or the underage scam most guys just lay an anonymous trail of poopie to the plane..dont let a large balance build up in local banks...dont follow the exact same routine at rent time every month..dont tell the hookers and masajistas what a big shot u are..when the hair on the back of your neck stands up slow down a little and gear up to trip the wife and go for help...if its your no 1 girl ...make sure you dont mislay the phone number for that honey in davao ..be sure and scream like a stuck pig and dodge from side to side...screaming ..what did i tell you about having to ask three times for another cold one while im watching a game?...the length of this dissertation and the ensuing interest in hearing its conclusion should give you a little wiggle room ..nothing like a spectacle to mesmerize your attackers....ask to borrow a little occassionally from neighbors or the maid...act crazy when working in the yard or while washing the car..wear socks of different colors with your sandals ...plant some baby ruths in the yard and munch down on one when your asshole neighbor is scopin you out...squeeze the dog a while... reach down like youre goin for a fresh one ...insanity and unpredictability are your friends... givem a big grin with lots of chocolate on your teeth and lips...most of the time its coming and you know it ....once a week set your alarm clock for every hour at night ...youll remember your dreams and write them down every hour or so...youll see the people watching and wishing you harm in them... :cooking:

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The Mason

I don't worry about my physical safety in the Philippines any more than I did in the US, but I do worry a lot more about property crimes and petty theft.

 

Snatchers and property crime are rampant here. My in-laws never leave their house unoccupied. They always make sure somebody is home so they don't get robbed. My stepson has lost 2 cellphones to snatchers in the past couple of months. Granted this is anecdotal evidence, but I think its a fairly common experience for most Filipinos.

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Looking extra happy or goofy is the trigger for most opportunists ...the criminal lives in a universe where all happiness vulnerability and optimism is manufactured by preying upon those actually experiencing it...the places you visit and live in the pi are controlled for the most part by criminal politicians all the way down to pickpockets on the street...its a business...errant activity is pretty small...youre always being watched ...from home to the market...from the massage parlor to the bar..there are around 12 major extortion ploys run to conclusion a week in ac ...because most involve drugs or the underage scam most guys just lay an anonymous trail of poopie to the plane..dont let a large balance build up in local banks...dont follow the exact same routine at rent time every month..dont tell the hookers and masajistas what a big shot u are..when the hair on the back of your neck stands up slow down a little and gear up to trip the wife and go for help...if its your no 1 girl ...make sure you dont mislay the phone number for that honey in davao ..be sure and scream like a stuck pig and dodge from side to side...screaming ..what did i tell you about having to ask three times for another cold one while im watching a game?...the length of this dissertation and the ensuing interest in hearing its conclusion should give you a little wiggle room ..nothing like a spectacle to mesmerize your attackers....ask to borrow a little occassionally from neighbors or the maid...act crazy when working in the yard or while washing the car..wear socks of different colors with your sandals ...plant some baby ruths in the yard and munch down on one when your asshole neighbor is scopin you out...squeeze the dog a while... reach down like youre goin for a fresh one ...insanity and unpredictability are your friends... givem a big grin with lots of chocolate on your teeth and lips...most of the time its coming and you know it ....once a week set your alarm clock for every hour at night ...youll remember your dreams and write them down every hour or so...youll see the people watching and wishing you harm in them... :biggrin_01:

LOLZ! Buang.

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m60man

No worries mate!

 

How do you feel in So Cal? Nothing bad happens there, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

how do you compare California to cebu oh because they both start with a C.... ?? Sorry .... the most important safty factor is when you dial 911 someone shows up at your house well here that is a dream unless your the mayor or someone with a special phone number to call... no i am kidding you will be very safe here just dont drink, loan money , wander the streets at night , dont use hookers , dont dress nice , dont wear jewlery , dont ride jeepneys , dont yell ,scream, or insult anyone with brown skin and or dark hair and you will be snug as a bug in a rug... Now if you plan on breaking any of these rules get your wife to get a carry permit and pack a 45 and a few spare clips

 

We do have 911 service for police,fire and ambulance here in Davao City, and they do respond! As a friend of mine found out a week ago or so. He was out in his yard firing his (wifes) .45 (in province) someone called 911, they responded........he won't be doing that again unless it's with his finger and hollering bang bang :biggrin_01: But all in all the neighbors feel safer now...hahaha. As for me and my safety, I really don't worry about it, besides after a bottle of Tanduay I become 10 foot tall and bulletproof. :D

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Jess Bartone

.....once a week set your alarm clock for every hour at night ...youll remember your dreams and write them down every hour or so...youll see the people watching and wishing you harm in them... :chopper:

 

Hey thanks Eggnoggin, I haven't tried this one yetwink_01.gif

 

And go easy Easy, lalaki buang could never come up with advice so obscure and yet so logical.

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broden

.....once a week set your alarm clock for every hour at night ...youll remember your dreams and write them down every hour or so...youll see the people watching and wishing you harm in them... :chopper:

 

Hey thanks Eggnoggin, I haven't tried this one yetwink_01.gif

 

And go easy Easy, lalaki buang could never come up with advice so obscure and yet so logical.

i work at night and i'd rather sleep through it

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smokey

No worries mate!

 

How do you feel in So Cal? Nothing bad happens there, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

how do you compare California to cebu oh because they both start with a C.... ?? Sorry .... the most important safty factor is when you dial 911 someone shows up at your house well here that is a dream unless your the mayor or someone with a special phone number to call... no i am kidding you will be very safe here just dont drink, loan money , wander the streets at night , dont use hookers , dont dress nice , dont wear jewlery , dont ride jeepneys , dont yell ,scream, or insult anyone with brown skin and or dark hair and you will be snug as a bug in a rug... Now if you plan on breaking any of these rules get your wife to get a carry permit and pack a 45 and a few spare clips

 

We do have 911 service for police,fire and ambulance here in Davao City, and they do respond! As a friend of mine found out a week ago or so. He was out in his yard firing his (wifes) .45 (in province) someone called 911, they responded........he won't be doing that again unless it's with his finger and hollering bang bang :D But all in all the neighbors feel safer now...hahaha. As for me and my safety, I really don't worry about it, besides after a bottle of Tanduay I become 10 foot tall and bulletproof. :)

 

 

 

 

 

well come to cebu and try calling its 166 in the Philippines , for police 160 for fire 161 for ride to the hospital and if your neighbor is giving you a hard time call 1 800 WHITE GUY we had some guy firing an armarlite one sunday morning and called the guard who said Sir the police already went up there and said its ok the one using the armorlite is only practicing and will stop when he has no more bullet

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goggleye

I just got home from 40 days in Cebu

i lived in Talambam and worked in Banilad at an korean english academy

while i was there i rode jeepneys and habal habal all over the place, often at night. Went to the Carbon-Colon area numerous times. Now i didnt do stupid stuff. I didnt go walking down alleys in Colon at night or hang out drunk at bars at 3 am by myself, just used common sense. During all that time I never felt threatened. People were universially warm and friendly, always helpful if i had a question? How do i get to Asilo or the Metro Mall? They seemed anxious to help me. I felt at home and comfortable the whole time.

As long as you avoid the same stupid stuff there as in the US you should be fine.

I think you have to have a mindset that most people are basicallly good.

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Markham

No worries mate!

 

How do you feel in So Cal? Nothing bad happens there, right?

how do you compare California to cebu oh because they both start with a C.... ?? Sorry .... the most important safty factor is when you dial 911 someone shows up at your house well here that is a dream unless your the mayor or someone with a special phone number to call... no i am kidding you will be very safe here just dont drink, loan money , wander the streets at night , dont use hookers , dont dress nice , dont wear jewlery , dont ride jeepneys , dont yell ,scream, or insult anyone with brown skin and or dark hair and you will be snug as a bug in a rug... Now if you plan on breaking any of these rules get your wife to get a carry permit and pack a 45 and a few spare clips

 

I hate to shatter your bad dream about life here, but there are cities in the Philippines that do have full 911 services (fire/police/ambulance/paramedic). One such is Davao.

 

 

 

Mark

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DeezNuz

I just got home from 40 days in Cebu

i lived in Talambam and worked in Banilad at an korean english academy

while i was there i rode jeepneys and habal habal all over the place, often at night. Went to the Carbon-Colon area numerous times. Now i didnt do stupid stuff. I didnt go walking down alleys in Colon at night or hang out drunk at bars at 3 am by myself, just used common sense. During all that time I never felt threatened. People were universially warm and friendly, always helpful if i had a question? How do i get to Asilo or the Metro Mall? They seemed anxious to help me. I felt at home and comfortable the whole time.

As long as you avoid the same stupid stuff there as in the US you should be fine.

I think you have to have a mindset that most people are basicallly good.

 

Ahhh..so you're the guy I see being followed by the pick pockets everytime I am out that way.

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ronaldnn

Lets be real people. Cebu is a large city with large city problems. The justice system is not going to protect you. The system here does not work in your favor. So are you safe? You are the envy of every poor Filipino. They want what you have. However if you attack life like that you will make your life safer.

 

LET'S GET REAL???

EASIER SAID THEN DONE...READ THE LATEST POST REGARDING CRIME!!

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goggleye

I just got home from 40 days in Cebu

i lived in Talambam and worked in Banilad at an korean english academy

while i was there i rode jeepneys and habal habal all over the place, often at night. Went to the Carbon-Colon area numerous times. Now i didnt do stupid stuff. I didnt go walking down alleys in Colon at night or hang out drunk at bars at 3 am by myself, just used common sense. During all that time I never felt threatened. People were universially warm and friendly, always helpful if i had a question? How do i get to Asilo or the Metro Mall? They seemed anxious to help me. I felt at home and comfortable the whole time.

As long as you avoid the same stupid stuff there as in the US you should be fine.

I think you have to have a mindset that most people are basicallly good.

 

Ahhh..so you're the guy I see being followed by the pick pockets everytime I am out that way.

 

 

thats-funny.gif nah I moved just a few bare essentials in a small light wallet i carried deep in my front pocket

if they were trying i didnt notice and didnt lose anything! thumbs_up.gif

i love the openess of the people there- almost anyone is happy to talk to you -

often you get asked? are you alone??? where are you going??? are you married???? the nursing students love to hear they can make 2.5 to 3 million pesos per year in the US! and the pharmacy students about piss their pants when you tell them they can start at 4.5 to 5 million pesos per year steve.gif

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DeezNuz

 

 

thats-funny.gif nah I moved just a few bare essentials in a small light wallet i carried deep in my front pocket

if they were trying i didnt notice and didnt lose anything! thumbs_up.gif

i love the openess of the people there- almost anyone is happy to talk to you -

often you get asked? are you alone??? where are you going??? are you married???? the nursing students love to hear they can make 2.5 to 3 million pesos per year in the US! and the pharmacy students about piss their pants when you tell them they can start at 4.5 to 5 million pesos per year steve.gif

 

 

are you alone???

This is so they can determine how many of them will be needed to rob you.

 

where are you going???

To make sure they can push you off into an inconspicuous area to facilitate, the above.

are you married????

Maybe they want to rape you too?

 

the nursing students love to hear they can make 2.5 to 3 million pesos per year in the US!

...and with a little trip back to your place late one evening, you can provide the cute ones some pointers.

 

 

and the pharmacy students about piss their pants when you tell them they can start at 4.5 to 5 million pesos per year

Man...you should work for the recruiting deparment of a local Nursing University.

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DeezNuz

Not too burst anyone's bubble...

 

Scaredy Cats shouldn't move to the Philippines, nor any other third world country. meow...

 

 

On a serious note...Philippines is as safe as you make it. You start walking around near the squatter areas in the middle of the night, you are 50% more likely to get held up. Then, if you start utilizing alternative methods of circumventing typical municipal or goverment processes you are bound to be placed in an awkward situation.

 

Do everything legally, associate with the right people and be aware of your surroundings and you can be part of the hundreds of thousands of other foreiners that reside here safely.

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Willie

Lets be real people. Cebu is a large city with large city problems. The justice system is not going to protect you. The system here does not work in your favor. So are you safe? You are the envy of every poor Filipino. They want what you have. However if you attack life like that you will make your life safer.

 

LET'S GET REAL???

EASIER SAID THEN DONE...READ THE LATEST POST REGARDING CRIME!!

 

Ronald, the RP is very safe for seasoned travelers and expats, but if you're that worried about crime there, then you probably shouldn't go (or have you been?). Spend your money on a trip somewhere that you'll have peace of mind.

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ronaldnn

Lets be real people. Cebu is a large city with large city problems. The justice system is not going to protect you. The system here does not work in your favor. So are you safe? You are the envy of every poor Filipino. They want what you have. However if you attack life like that you will make your life safer.

 

LET'S GET REAL???

EASIER SAID THEN DONE...READ THE LATEST POST REGARDING CRIME!!

 

Ronald, the RP is very safe for seasoned travelers and expats, but if you're that worried about crime there, then you probably shouldn't go (or have you been?). Spend your money on a trip somewhere that you'll have peace of mind.

 

Willie...Thanks for your input.....I've been there in the Philippines 4 times in the last 12 months, and Costa Rica, Colombia, and a few others several times....I am not worried about the crime so much, I think I can handle myself quite well, more like the shaky flaky government et el....know what I mean. I see you have been there 9 times and do you live there now?

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