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If you are an American citizen and are expecting a baby to be born outside the USA, please read the following information regarding registering your child born abroad: Registration of Births and Claims to US Citizenship

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dirtsquirter

I just went through the whole process. Just wanted to update the pricing you can expect to pay. We should have checked out the online deals for staying at the Cebu Waterfront Hotel and Casino, which is where the US Consulars office is located. I could have stayed 3 nights, with an awesome breakfast buffet included, on the 16th floor in a king sized bed, for 8000php. I stayed instead just 2 nights and we paid about 7000+. At the consulars office, we needed my son's passport size photos in hand, so we ran out to the nearest passport ID photo shop and got them done, then back to the consulars office to take care of the paperwork. It cost me about 10,000 php for the registering of his birth abroad, and his US passport. I chose the delivery service from the Manila embassy, and the documents were delivered straight to my door for about 325 php by air 21. I received an email about a week after we applied, and the embassy wanted to see proof of my being in Phil during the time of the conception, and pictures of her during her pregnancy, and also proof of our ongoing relationship before marriage, and family pics of my son as he grew. I supplied this info, then a new request some time after for my divorce papers, which I had exemplified before I left RI. A few weeks after sending that, I was notified my documents were on their way to me. I received every pic, and every original document back with my son's US Consular's report of birth abroad, and US Passport. Now he has 2 of each, one for the Philippines, and one for the US. I am so glad I did this now, it's important for him, and now he has a choice about education, and also where he will live when he is older. Hope this helps someone.

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tripsigg

I'd also like to add to this, even if the child was born in another country, you can still register through the Consulate in Cebu, they'll forward the information to the applicable embassy to issue the CRBA.

 

Also don't assume you'll need a DNA test, even if not married. I registered my youngest son's birth even though I wasn't married to his mother at the time of birth and in spite of the fact that it was registered when he was already 5 years old. No dna test or anything, just a quick 2 minute interview and then show pictures of me there when he was born.

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Benny

I'd also like to add to this, even if the child was born in another country, you can still register through the Consulate in Cebu, they'll forward the information to the applicable embassy to issue the CRBA.

 

Also don't assume you'll need a DNA test, even if not married. I registered my youngest son's birth even though I wasn't married to his mother at the time of birth and in spite of the fact that it was registered when he was already 5 years old. No dna test or anything, just a quick 2 minute interview and then show pictures of me there when he was born.

 

I thought that was changed at the beginning of this year. I have been helping my friend go through this process. The US Embassy will only accept appointments through their automated online system and they require that applicants go with their family to Manila for the interview.

 

To change the focus of the subject slightly, I think there may be two standards depending whether you are a pensioner. A U.S. pensioner can get up to an additional 50% of his pension (I think up to a maximum of $500 - maximum two children) as a child benefit through Social Security. There is definitly heightened scrutiny involved by the US Embassy when a pensioner is involved. For instance, I only know a few pensioners who have gone through this process and they have each all received an unscheduled home by embassy staff. These staff members will even question neighbors. One of them told me they asked his neighbor if the neighbor believed he (pensioner) could still have sex at his age. I find this rather invasive and disrespectful - if true (the US Embassy visited, but many people here tell outrageous stories).

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USMC-Retired

dirtsquirter How old was your son when you applied? I find that a bit over the top if he was a newborn. Anyone have experience with a newborn? Also was the passport part mandatory or is that just something you did? What was the breakdown of fees? Thanks

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J n J

I read recently on the USCIS site that as of 1/1/2011 that CRBA's are no longer available,unless in the military or government service.Which is extremely bad news.Is this true? I do not want to father a child in the fils if he/she will not automatically be conferred with U.S. citizenship via CRBA.The article stated that the child born after that date would get a green card and would achieve citizenship like any other immigrant.I found it to be rather outrageous as U.S. citizen means U.S. citizens children are U.S. citizens.

Can anyone clarify this?This is IMPORTANT.

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dennis1105

I read recently on the USCIS site that as of 1/1/2011 that CRBA's are no longer available,unless in the military or government service.Which is extremely bad news.Is this true? I do not want to father a child in the fils if he/she will not automatically be conferred with U.S. citizenship via CRBA.The article stated that the child born after that date would get a green card and would achieve citizenship like any other immigrant.I found it to be rather outrageous as U.S. citizen means U.S. citizens children are U.S. citizens.

Can anyone clarify this?This is IMPORTANT.

Go here, http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship.html This explains that what you heard is not true. Just that the CRBA will we issued from New Hampshire, not Manila.

Dennis

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SkyMan

I'd also like to add to this, even if the child was born in another country, you can still register through the Consulate in Cebu, they'll forward the information to the applicable embassy to issue the CRBA.

So am I reading in this that a child born in another country can be applied for the CRBA in CEBU? But if the child didn't haveUS citizenship and therefore a passport, how did they get to Cebu?

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I thought that was changed at the beginning of this year. I have been helping my friend go through this process. The US Embassy will only accept appointments through their automated online system and they require that applicants go with their family to Manila for the interview.

 

To change the focus of the subject slightly, I think there may be two standards depending whether you are a pensioner. A U.S. pensioner can get up to an additional 50% of his pension (I think up to a maximum of $500 - maximum two children) as a child benefit through Social Security. There is definitly heightened scrutiny involved by the US Embassy when a pensioner is involved. For instance, I only know a few pensioners who have gone through this process and they have each all received an unscheduled home by embassy staff. These staff members will even question neighbors. One of them told me they asked his neighbor if the neighbor believed he (pensioner) could still have sex at his age. I find this rather invasive and disrespectful - if true (the US Embassy visited, but many people here tell outrageous stories).

 

 

According to my lawyer back in the states, the child will be eligible for 50 percent of what the pensioner draws. For example, if you draw the max, 2100 per month, the child will get 1050.00, if you have two children, the amount does not go up, it is split between children. For example, for 2 children each will receive 525.00, and so on and so forth. No extra money for extra kids.

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I read recently on the USCIS site that as of 1/1/2011 that CRBA's are no longer available,unless in the military or government service.Which is extremely bad news.Is this true? I do not want to father a child in the fils if he/she will not automatically be conferred with U.S. citizenship via CRBA.The article stated that the child born after that date would get a green card and would achieve citizenship like any other immigrant.I found it to be rather outrageous as U.S. citizen means U.S. citizens children are U.S. citizens.

Can anyone clarify this?This is IMPORTANT.

 

NOT true!

 

LinD

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dc3driver

 

 

According to my lawyer back in the states, the child will be eligible for 50 percent of what the pensioner draws. For example, if you draw the max, 2100 per month, the child will get 1050.00, if you have two children, the amount does not go up, it is split between children. For example, for 2 children each will receive 525.00, and so on and so forth. No extra money for extra kids.

Not quite....I live in Cebu City & my kids get Social Security as minor dependents of a retiree. Each kid would get about 50% of my benefit, so the amount is doubled. I was out of the country when the SS people came to Cebu, the wanted to see the kids in person. In their infinite wisdome they made it a 3 way split,(of the amount the kids would get) in other words it is divided 3 ways between each kid & their Mother as the caretaker of the children. This is an advantage for us as you must make an annual accounting of where the money went, but for the kids only. The 1/3 of the amount that my wife gets does not have to be accounted for. I opted for a reduced amount of SS, starting to take it at 62, the kids get it 'till they are 18, so it is a smaller amount per month, for a longer period. Hope this helps......

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dirtsquirter

dirtsquirter How old was your son when you applied? I find that a bit over the top if he was a newborn. Anyone have experience with a newborn? Also was the passport part mandatory or is that just something you did? What was the breakdown of fees? Thanks

Our son was 6 month's old when we applied. Not sure what you mean by "over the top"? The US Passport was something we wanted him to have, as he already had his Philippine passport, and you need a CRBA to receive his US Passport. It was not mandatory. The fees are as follows - Exec fee: $25.00, Minor Passport: $40.00, Passport Surcharge: $40.00, CRBA: $100.00. All prices are in US Dollars. The total was 9430 php. I don't think you can do this at the consulars office in Cebu anymore, a friend who went through this after me said he had to go to Manila to file the paperwork. If anybody knows if this is correct, just post it here to help someone else.

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David Spicer

The easist way to do this is at an Embassy Outreach. We did it in 2008, it was painless, and we had the CRBA and passport in about 6 weeks.

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dirtsquirter

I did this in August 2010, so I don't know what they allow now, but my guess is you will need to travel to Manila. The expat who did this just 2 months after me said the Consul in Cebu won't accept them. He had to fly to Manila.

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