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He's certainly maintaining a high profile for someone who's a guest in another country, isn't he? The nail that sticks up gets pounded down. He'd be better off keeping his mouth shut and letting his lawyer handle it in my opinion. And in future, assuming he doesn't get deported and blacklisted for disrespecting Filipinos, he should take pains to carefully obey all of the laws here.

 

Exactly. He's making open accusations in public against officials.

 

He will be out of this country, unless he is extremely lucky, very soon. Lucky? He may be luckier to leave, actually.

 

Either way, he is definitely not the brightest cookie in the box.

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This guy really has no sense, and especially no sense to be living and acting that way in the Philippines.

It also appears from some of the videos that he feels this is humorous.

I can assure you that the people he is pissing off don't find it as humorous.

NEVER, EVER humiliate a filipino !!!!!!!!!!

Classic case of morons coming to the Philippines and thinking with their western minds. BAD IDEA.

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He has armed thugs making death threats against his family. You don't get that by being Joe Cool, that's for sure. What ticks me off is that people like him make all foreigners look bad to the Filipinos, like the old adage about one aw shit wiping out a dozen attaboys. I don't want people here mentally putting me in the same category as this guy. The same thing goes for the high rollers that come here, adding to the idea that all Americans are rich. But that's a rant for another topic later on.

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I spent a lot of time in africa....in countries where food was growing on trees for free......literally ....while people went malnourished and hungry 10 miles away.....who then decided to bolo 500,000 of their neighbors and inlaws...and sell the parentless children into slavery.....just because they could....i grew up seeing lots of heads hanging above bridges ...on road signs and posts in the p i in the late 40s... gee eyes from the base streaming out the gate and tearing the town apart when someone was jailed on a trumped up scam by local yocals...eating fish heads and rice..helping to splash down the buffalo and lead him home with my buds..there are some wonderful intelligent talented people on a treadmill in the pi.....it is what it is ......it sure aint no "upwardly mobile freeway" for whitey ;)

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One thing that comes to my mind is that this American has made multiple public

claims to "own" the fishing boat. Under the fisheries laws of the Philippines,

and the 1987 constitution, commercial fishing can only be entertained by

Philippines citizens;

 

Section XII, article 2 of the 1987 constitution states;

 

"The State shall protect the nation's marine wealth in its archipelagic waters,

territorial sea, and exclusive economic zone, and reserve its use and enjoyment

exclusively to Filipino citizens."

 

Under the fisheries laws, a foriegner can fish for sport reasons only, not

commercially. He can fish, but not sell fish. If in fact as he claims he "owns"

this boat, he is breaking the law and his equipment (boat) can be confiscated.

 

He can legally own a maximum of 40% of a corporation that owns a boat, but if he

is going public that "he owns it" he may find himself on the short end of the

stick.

 

At any rate, something is "fishy".

 

Food for thought.

 

Larry in Dumaguete

 

 

 

 

 

 

well larry as he is MARRIED when he says me he means WE..

 

He must have done something to piss people off

 

 

 

 

 

 

yea he is guilty of having money and being white

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Exactly. He's making open accusations in public against officials.

 

He will be out of this country, unless he is extremely lucky, very soon. Lucky? He may be luckier to leave, actually.

 

Either way, he is definitely not the brightest cookie in the box.

 

 

 

He may also be a very principled and brave guys as his Filipino wife. Some have refused to give into armed robbery, so why should he?

 

Lets assume he did break a law...... there is legal redress for it and that was not to take the boat out of the water and burn it in the town center, hence the run for open water.

 

For those of us who live here and have children who will be raised as Philipinos what example are u going to set.

 

Personally none of mine will grow up as serfs or with a serf mentality. They will not be brought up as thugs or abusers of authority. Best contribution I can make.

 

Trying to change the Philippines, no of course not, just not prepared to tell it as it is for fear of being told to leave or die is also not acceptable.

 

Yes I am a disenfranchised tax payer with no rights, but I am a permanent resident and not a guest or a lodger on an extended tourism visa.

 

Hiding in a hole is not an option for those who are making a family commitment here. may not be our country but it will be our childrens, that is our responsibility.

 

then again, thats just my opinion.

 

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Hi Mike,

 

To make myself a bit clearer, I wasn't really debating whether he was right, wrong, fishing illegally, or legally. That wasn't my concern at all. Let's say he was fishing legally. I was only saying that he should have gone about this in a different manner.

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Hi Mike,

 

To make myself a bit clearer, I wasn't really debating whether he was right, wrong, fishing illegally, or legally. That wasn't my concern at all. Let's say he was fishing legally. I was only saying that he should have gone about this in a different manner.

 

I'd agree, he even seems to admit to wrongdoing (almost) at one point and say "yes, and I know the fine for that, it's 1000", but he's acting like a stubborn little kid who's intent on picking a fight with the school badass.

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Don't know that this article in today's edition of Gold Star Daily clarifies anything but it does present some perspective from Gingoog officials point of view . Out of curiosity can you folks in Cebu access the Gold Star Daily on-line as some of us here " can't get there from here " . :-)

 

 

Gingoog officials have filed a complaint against American Randy Stirm, his wife and the crew of FB Cherry 1 for alleged illegal fishing and for taking back the fishing boat that was seized by authorities on the waters off eastern Misamis Oriental.

 

Gingoog Mayor Ruthie Guingona yesterday said this even as she confirmed that she ordered big fishing boats that enter Gingoog Bay seized.

 

The order was for a group composed of the Bantay Dagat, Gingoog Bay Alliance, Navy and the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), among others, to protect Gingoog

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So the fishing boat was escorted to the pier by authorities and then they get back in and try to make a run for it. Did I see that right?

 

I certainly understand the guys frustration with the entire scenario but I question his response. Running from the authorities after they have already seized your boat or car or whatever is just going to make things worse. And they dont need a warrant to seize the boat if its doing something illegal they can just take it and arrest anyone they suspect.

 

Whats with his accent, has he been in the Philippines so long that he now talks like a Filipino?

 

 

And the entire reason for this was to protect the small time fisherman from big fishing boats. If I had a boat that big I'd be out in deep water anyway.

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It would seem that Randy's boat was indeed fishing illegally, too close to shore. The government acted against his boat the same way they have against others that were owned by Pinoys. Randy, understandably, was upset, but he reacted rather than thinking clearly. First his boat fled from the law, then he stole the boat back after it was impounded- all adding to the charges against him. He wasn't very wise in my opinion.

 

The dismantling of the outriggers was necessary so the boat could be moored next to a pier. I saw some of those boats when I was in Bohol last weekend- they have long bamboo outriggers sticking way out on the sides, so they have to be moored away from docks and piers. Regarding other damage to the boat and the missing net, that's something Randy should have pursued via legal means.

 

I expect that now he's facing some rather hefty fines, jail time, deportation, some of the above, or all of the above. He should have taken the deal they offered him to get his boat repaired and returned to him in exchange for a portion of the catch. Better half a loaf than none. He could always move to another area and start fishing in different waters where that syndicate doesn't operate.

 

One thing I find interesting is that the syndicate was formed in the first place to counteract armed threats by bigger fishing boats against the small fishermen there, and that syndicate is now using the same tactics against the larger boats. Similar things seem to happen everywhere where the fish stocks are dwindling: when catches are poor people start fighting over the remaining fish. It happened over the salmon along British Columbia and over the codfish on the Grand Banks. In those cases they didn't have the navy firing on boats, but some of the fishermen did fire a few shots at each other.

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As an aside, they say he's an American but his accent sounds unlike any American one I've ever heard: perhaps Norwegian? Does anybody know if he's a naturalized American citizen and if so, where he's originally from? Just curious.

 

Edit: wh00ps, I did it again! Jay here. :D

 

No he is not Norwegian, we don't have that type of accent. To me he sounds more like he is of Asian assent, but I will not bet on it. Listen when he say something sounding like Philippino words, to well spoken for any English speaking nationality :lol:

 

 

I just don't want this to fall on Norwegians, we are more in the habit of makings asses of ourself in bar's, getting drunk and stupid. This however, is most common among people from Tr

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As an aside, they say he's an American but his accent sounds unlike any American one I've ever heard: perhaps Norwegian? Does anybody know if he's a naturalized American citizen and if so, where he's originally from? Just curious.

 

I thought that was his approximation of a Filipino accent. I have cousins in Manila who speak in that "sing/song" manner. (I was told people from Iloilo speak that way also, but I've not been there.)

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No he is not Norwegian, we don't have that type of accent. To me he sounds more like he is of Asian assent, but I will not bet on it. Listen when he say something sounding like Philippino words, to well spoken for any English speaking nationality :)

 

 

I just don't want this to fall on Norwegians, we are more in the habit of makings asses of ourself in bar's, getting drunk and stupid. This however, is most common among people from Tr

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BTW, Jungle Jil's blog said that charges against Randy were finally filed: fishing with "activated fishing gear" in municipal waters: fine, somewhere around P1000. Case closed. Or not: I bet either he, his wife or their boat will meet with an "accident" by the end of the year. He upset too many people and made them lose face. I'd relocate pronto if I was him.

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