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MOTORISTS passing through the South Road Properties (SRP) in Cebu City should avoid overspeeding or get penalized.

This after the Cebu City Transportation Office (CCTO) has acquired a radar speed gun to help detect the speed of vehicles passing along the SRP.

With their speed gun, the CCTO can now start implementing City Ordinance 2621, which requires vehicles passing through the SRP to move within a speed limit of 60 kilometers per hour.

The ordinance, which was authored by Cebu City Councilor Raymond Alvin Garcia, was enacted in April this year.

Paul Gotiong, CCTO spokesperson, said drivers caught driving beyond the speed limit may be penalized with a P2,000 fine and attendance of a four-hour seminar for the first offense.

For the second offense, the motorist will be required to pay a P2,500 fine, attend a four-hour seminar and spend three hours for community service.

But a motorist caught the third time will be required to pay a P3,000 fine and have his or her vehicle impounded.

Gotiong said the CCTO is testing one speed gun for now before acquiring more. It is now being used by the personnel assigned at the SRP. 

 

Jeez, after 50 years of driving ya get slapped for a few ks over and you then got to go and listen to some wanker at a seminar..

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1906629/Cebu/Local-News/CCTOs-speed-gun-to-end-SRP-speeding-to-be-enforce-at-SRP

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Dafey
2 minutes ago, cookie47 said:

attendance of a four-hour seminar

I remember going to one in the US. If you go you insurance won't go up after a ticket. Mostly teenagers and this old fart. The instructor went around the room asking why each person was there. When ghe got to me I answered, "because I got caught"!

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An article from the Daily Mail UK About the accuracy issues of a speed gun....

 

The great speed gun scandal

This is the heart-stopping moment every motorist dreads. As you drive along the road, a police officer points a laser speed gun towards you. Glancing at the dashboard, you breathe a sigh of relief: the speedometer reveals that your car is travelling below the 30mph limit. But a month later, a letter drops through your door. You face a fine for speeding and penalty points on your licence.

It is claimed that you were driving at 41mph - not 28mph. Can that high speed really be true? Staggeringly, the answer may be no.

Motorists accused of driving too fast on Britain's roads insist the real culprit is a laser speed gun officially approved by the Home Office and used by almost every police authority in the country. For the Mail has discovered that the LTI 20.20.gun is seriously flawed.

In our tests, it wrongly recorded a wall as travelling at 44mph, an empty road scored 33mph, a parked car was clocked as doing 22mph and a bicycle (in reality being ridden at 5mph) rocketed along at an impossible 66mph.

Imported from America, the LTI 20.20. is used in nearly 3,500 mobile speed units hidden in police vans or cars and mounted on motorbikes.

 

Speed traps - nearly half of which now use laser gun technology - reap more than £100 million each year in fines. This is shared between the police, the Highways Agency, the courts, the Home Office and local authorities. Ironically, some of the huge sum is used to pay for even more police speed reinforcement teams relying on exactly the same laser speed gun at the centre of the Mail's investigation. Rigorous tests

We subjected the speed gun to rigorous tests. Alarmingly, we discovered it was prone to wildly wide-of-the-mark readings, even when set up according to the police's own guidelines and the manufacturer's handbook.

In other tests, we found the equipment was measuring the speed of overtaking cars instead of the one being targeted.

Today, the Mail can expose the scandal of a speed enforcement industry in which the collection of fines is considered paramount - whatever the consequences for innocent drivers caught in police traps by faulty readings.

In the past nine years, an extraordinary one-in-five drivers has been fined for speeding, despite many protesting their innocence.

Lawyers we spoke to say motorists are now rebelling by refusing to pay fines and fighting their cases through the courts.

One voicing concern is Barry Culshaw, a Southampton solicitor currently acting for 15 drivers nationwide. "They complain of huge errors," he says. "Drivers say they were within the speed limit and yet the LTI 20.20. recorded them doing excessive speed."

Another disquieting discovery is that vital video film - often taken at a speed-trap site for use as secondary evidence - is often mysteriously withheld from motorists by the Crown Prosecution Service.

On at least ten occasions the Crown has suddenly dropped the case against a motorist when ordered by a judge to hand over the telling footage.

Michael Morgan, who runs a British website collating complaints against laser speed guns, said: "The authorities often wriggle rather than release the video, which would expose the laser gun to scrutiny in a court of law. No doubt they fear the enormous consequences, including a clamour for fine refunds and compensation over the loss of licences or even livelihoods." Expert witnesses compromised

Alarmingly, the Mail can reveal, too, that the main expert witness used by the CPS to convict motorists in such cases - a former police officer named Frank Garratt - also makes his living as boss of the company importing the devices into Britain. Perhaps not surprisingly, Mr Garratt, a millionaire, told the Mail the LTI 20.20. works perfectly well.

One of the gun's toughest critics is Dr Michael Clark, Europe's leading expert on laser technology. He is a former company director of a British firm making laser detection equipment for traffic lights and car parks.

Dr Clark was clocked, apparently speeding, by a laser gun three years ago. He fought his case through the courts, proving he was travelling below the limit. He has acted as an expert witness on behalf of many motorists since.

"I was drawn into this controversy because I know about laser science. I do not rely on my court appearances or the speed enforcement industry to make a living," he told the Mail when we asked him to help - without payment - in our experiments.

Dr Clark says that the gun is defective because its wide beam can easily pick up the wrong vehicle. Furthermore, if the device is not held firmly on the target - and this is a difficult task - it can produce an erroneous speed result by "slippage".

Reflections from road signs and from other cars - even one stationary on the kerbside - can also make the laser gun misinterpret the truth.

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There was a a very high profile Case the media picked up in Australia where a fixed speed camera "apparently" clocked a lady in a Datsun 120y at some ridiculous speed (130+ kph.) (Very small 1200 cc car).They took the car to a racetrack and a professional driver drove the wheels off it and could NOT get 130 kph...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-365563/The-great-speed-gun-scandal.html

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1 hour ago, cookie47 said:

 

MOTORISTS passing through the South Road Properties (SRP) in Cebu City should avoid overspeeding or get penalized.

This after the Cebu City Transportation Office (CCTO) has acquired a radar speed gun to help detect the speed of vehicles passing along the SRP.

With their speed gun, the CCTO can now start implementing City Ordinance 2621, which requires vehicles passing through the SRP to move within a speed limit of 60 kilometers per hour.

The ordinance, which was authored by Cebu City Councilor Raymond Alvin Garcia, was enacted in April this year.

Paul Gotiong, CCTO spokesperson, said drivers caught driving beyond the speed limit may be penalized with a P2,000 fine and attendance of a four-hour seminar for the first offense.

For the second offense, the motorist will be required to pay a P2,500 fine, attend a four-hour seminar and spend three hours for community service.

But a motorist caught the third time will be required to pay a P3,000 fine and have his or her vehicle impounded.

Gotiong said the CCTO is testing one speed gun for now before acquiring more. It is now being used by the personnel assigned at the SRP. 

 

Jeez, after 50 years of driving ya get slapped for a few ks over and you then got to go and listen to some wanker at a seminar..

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1906629/Cebu/Local-News/CCTOs-speed-gun-to-end-SRP-speeding-to-be-enforce-at-SRP

My question is are they actually going to pursue and pull over people or stand on the side of the road and flag you down.  The second doesn't work too well in other countries I've seen that done.  

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2 minutes ago, cvgtpc1 said:

My question is are they actually going to pursue and pull over people or stand on the side of the road and flag you down.  The second doesn't work too well in other countries I've seen that done.  

Yes good point..Well at least (at the moment) you won't be getting a surprise letter through the letterbox knowing the non existent nature of Phillpost....😂.

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samatm

I hate to see radar guns finally making it here...shucks soon they will even bring in breathalyzers

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24 minutes ago, samatm said:

I hate to see radar guns finally making it here...shucks soon they will even bring in breathalyzers

Absolutely, although I don't agree with drink driving, the subsequent road blocks/random testing etc would be another nail in the coffin so to speak.

Breathalyzer..

I was threatened(so to speak) in Western Australia with arrest if I didn't supply a decent flow of breath (you get 3 goes apparently). I had recently been fitted new dentures that I had not got used too using......ha ha ha.🥴🙃....

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SmokyMtnRon

Stupid, stupid, stupid. You've got a divided 6 lane highway and they determine the speed limit should be 60 KPH? 60 KPH is only 37 MPH. How about just teach the people how to drive.

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4 minutes ago, SmokyMtnRon said:

Stupid, stupid, stupid. You've got a divided 6 lane highway and they determine the speed limit should be 60 KPH? 60 KPH is only 37 MPH. How about just teach the people how to drive.

Have to agree , However even with vehicle inspections.. pfff,I wouldn't want to see SOME vehicles going faster than 60kph. Mainly the smoke belching ,bald tyred, 8 wheeler brigade....

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Goetz1965

60 is ok on SRP for the locals - that road is more potholes than road usually - even I always have difficulties going over 80.
But I guess they just asphalted it new and its much easier to speed now - so tthere is of course no coincidence to use radar guns now...

But, in 2-3 month speed is down to 5- already with all the potholes lol

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