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Swissrider

https://news.abs-cbn.com/

This part is a bit confusing for me: "They must have a valid and existing visa at the time of entry, except for those qualified under the Balikbayan Program" Does this mean they must get a visa at the embassy  first before coming to the Philippines ? Because normally  you will get your 30 day visa on arrival. But who knows, maybe the changed the rules a bit. Also, how they will handle the maxium number per day of 1500 inbound passengers ? Let's say I begin my  trip to Manila and on arrival they say, sorry Sir, border closed, your are passenger number 1501 today. :)

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Kreole

I was under the impression that all foreigners including SRRV holders (but excluding Filipinos living abroad) are not allowed to enter the PH.  Is this a change to that order?  If foreigners are allowed to enter or return, then hopefully that opens up the possibility of a visa run to another SE Asian country, which I had originally planned before the lockdown.

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cookie47
1 hour ago, Swissrider said:

Let's say I begin my  trip to Manila and on arrival they say, sorry Sir, border closed, your are passenger number 1501 today. :)

This is my understanding !,,,I can ONLY comment based on the Australian system. The government  put the International arrival number requirement in the hands of the airline/s and they apparently will not sell you a ticket unless there is a vacancy WITHIN the 1500 as in PH...(or whatever the Australian numbers are/were).... Somehow It's the airlines that were given the task to vet the number's through I guess an airline collaboration.....Controlling the number's Ensured that quarantine positions (hotels) were available as all states STILL have mandatory quarantine.

This is my understanding, Never attempted to use it though.

And this explains why a lot of Aussies were/ and are still stuck overseas although the arrival number's have been increased ?....

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SkyMan

Tourists are still not allowed.  If you don't have a current visa or a Filipino spouse/child, you cannot come.

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govoner
9 hours ago, SkyMan said:

Tourists are still not allowed.  If you don't have a current visa or a Filipino spouse/child, you cannot come.

I think you also have to be traveling with said wife or child.

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Edd
14 hours ago, Kreole said:

I was under the impression that all foreigners including SRRV holders (but excluding Filipinos living abroad) are not allowed to enter the PH.  Is this a change to that order?  If foreigners are allowed to enter or return, then hopefully that opens up the possibility of a visa run to another SE Asian country, which I had originally planned before the lockdown.

Kreole, If you are married then you can leave the Phils with your wife and travel back in together.  If you are not married then it's going to be difficult to work around.  Even my own situation as a 'Foreign Parent of a Filipino Child',  that amendment has also now been removed from the list. 

 

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8 hours ago, Edd said:

Kreole, If you are married then you can leave the Phils with your wife and travel back in together.  If you are not married then it's going to be difficult to work around.  Even my own situation as a 'Foreign Parent of a Filipino Child',  that amendment has also now been removed from the list. 

 

I am not sure why they want to make difficult, especially for foreigners in your position, Edd.  It is so counter productive.  In addition, I have been waiting to submit an application for an SRRV, but the PRA has "temporarily" suspended all applications.  They bring a new meaning to temporary, since the suspension has lasted 8 months.  The reason given at the time is that some classifications allowed younger mainland Chinese men, far younger than retirement age, to qualify.  They were using the loophole to enter and work in the Chinese casinos or online casinos.  That seems like a pretty simple problem to resolve; just rewrite the requirements.  But, apparently that takes many months to complete. 

In the meanwhile all qualified retirees are penalized and the PH loses a lot of money, not only from application and yearly fees, but from the money the retiree would have spent here.  None of it makes any sense to me especially with the economy in the gutter and the covid crises eating up revenue that is desperately needed just to keep the country functioning.  I have long ago stopped looking for rational explanations for how things are done here.  The silver lining for me is that my application for a visa extension beyond the 36 month limit was submitted to the BOI in Manila in September 2020, and thus far, no reply; a case where no news is good news.  As far as I am concerned they can take all the time in the world as long as the PRA opens application submissions before their decision, so I can legally have a extension while my SRRV is in process.

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SkyMan
10 hours ago, govoner said:

I think you also have to be traveling with said wife or child.

Correct.

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Paddy

Reading, or trying to read, the current rules is as confusing as ever however, as I understand it, foreigners with existing visas and Balikbayans can enter. However number 2, there are additional requirements for certain visas. For example, the SRRV requires an approved Re-Entry Request (that’s approved by the DFA and passed to the BI so you can imagine the process to get one might not be quite as simple as sending the PRA an email...)

I am glad that I haven’t needed to go anywhere this past year and more...

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Dafey
1 hour ago, Paddy said:

the SRRV requires an approved Re-Entry Request (that’s approved by the DFA and passed to the BI so you can imagine the process to get one might not be quite as simple as sending the PRA an email...)

I haven't heard yet what DFA exemption is and how to get one?

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Paddy
12 hours ago, Dafey said:

I haven't heard yet what DFA exemption is and how to get one?

I “think” that all you need is a letter explaining your situation/reason for returning. Perhaps I’ll go back through the PRA fb page to find the original explanation (somewhere around last September/October). Since that time the PRA has had a specific email for such requests. 
 

And, btw, SRRV holders are also now supposed to let PRA know when they leave the country. I’ll try and find the reference to that too. 

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Kreole
2 hours ago, Paddy said:

And, btw, SRRV holders are also now supposed to let PRA know when they leave the country. I’ll try and find the reference to that too. 

Speaking of the PRA, I have been waiting for news of them lifting the suspension on SRRV applications.  The suspension was supposed to be temporary, but it has lasted 8 months now.  I just sent a message to the PRA asking for an update on the status.  Has anyone had news of a change?

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Dafey
29 minutes ago, Kreole said:

Has anyone had news of a change?

How long before your visa expires?

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Kreole
2 hours ago, Dafey said:

How long before your visa expires?

It expired in September 2020 and my visa extension was sent to Manila for consideration before the expiration date.  Shortly after that request my lawyer tried to submit the SRRV application and was advised that the process was suspended.  So, I have been in limbo for 9 months.  As per the visa extension, the lawyer effectively said "no news is good news".

However, the suspension is about to be lifted.  Below is the copy of the PRA reply to my email.

Thank you for your email.

We have received information that the PRA Board of Trustees (BOT) has already conditionally approved the lifting of suspension on accepting new SRRV Applications.  The PRA Management will issue an official advisory once the conditions and qualifications have been finalized according to the BOT requirements.  The Marketing Department will resume Pre-evaluation of SRRV Applications and Processing of other SRRV Application-related requests, such as Letters of Introduction (LOI) and Certificates of Pending Application (CPA) and Appointment slots will be opened once the guidelines are ready.  In the meantime, please stay updated through our official website (www.pra.gov.ph) or our Facebook Page (facebook.com/PhilippineRetirementVisa).

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