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fred42

I just read this on a Facebook group.
Might be truth in parts of this theory?

 

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Intercultural Issue 1a)

Part of the reason why one should not argue with most Filipinos is because while they may be extremely fluent in English, they still by and large, come from a peace-based, SE Asian, Hindu-Buddhist cultural background. Yes, they have been Catholic in rites, but their genetics are mainly Indo-Chinese. Thus, most act in the same calm manner, conflict avoiding way just as Thais and Cambodians do. So, they usually have little to no experience in carrying out long logical arguments or being challenged to a debate.

Educated Westerners on the other hand, from early in life are often skilled in the art of verbal debate and Greek logic ( even though they may not realize it is Greek). They easily discern various logical fallacies and counter-argue quickly.

Many Filipinos have little of such experience and can be easily defeated in such a debate because they often have no such training. They can beat us in patience and acceptance, but not when we use hard logic to challenge their point of view.

However, if defeated, many can feel "pain" and may resort to ad-hominem and then just begin to intensely dislike you.

They do have their own very soft way of convincing people, but it's an art of its own. Not exactly Greek. How they do it is still something I am still learning. But it's never a direct challenge. Way more passive. Ours is Karate, theirs is Aikido.

 

 

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Dafey
33 minutes ago, fred42 said:

they still by and large, come from a peace-based

I always thought Filipino history was largely at war

33 minutes ago, fred42 said:

However, if defeated, many can feel "pain" and may resort to ad-hominem and then just begin to intensely dislike you.

It's a matter of saving face. That is definitely an Asian trait.

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BossHog
3 hours ago, fred42 said:

 they still by and large, come from a peace-based, SE Asian, Hindu-Buddhist cultural background. Yes, they have been Catholic in rites, but their genetics are mainly Indo-Chinese. Thus, most act in the same calm manner, conflict avoiding way just as Thais and Cambodians do

Three major problems:

1.) The genetics here are overwhelmingly Austronesian and not Indo-Chinese.

2.) The thesis conflates genetics and culture which is problematic and a slippery slope.

3.) The argument ignores the regional Islamization of the archipelago from the 13th century onwards. Maynila itself was founded by Muslims not just the Sulu sultanates. The Visayas got by-passed.

3 hours ago, Dafey said:

I always thought Filipino history was largely at war

True. Early cross-insular contacts were mostly systematized slave raids even in pre-Islamic times.

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RR3
24 minutes ago, BossHog said:

Three major problems:

1.) The genetics here are overwhelmingly Austronesian and not Indo-Chinese.

2.) The thesis conflates genetics and culture which is problematic and a slippery slope.

3.) The argument ignores the regional Islamization of the archipelago from the 13th century onwards. Maynila itself was founded by Muslims not just the Sulu sultanates. The Visayas got by-passed.

True. Early cross-insular contacts were mostly systematized slave raids even in pre-Islamic times.

1) Southern China was the hot spot where excess populations moved over to SEA, Pacific, Americas. Talking of Austronesian and IndoChinese just shows the skribent thinks Taiwan had ever excess pop. Oh well

2) words

3) Manila like most big cities in SEA were born as Chinese trading post.

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mikewright
5 hours ago, fred42 said:

Educated Westerners on the other hand, from early in life are often skilled in the art of verbal debate and Greek logic ( even though they may not realize it is Greek). They easily discern various logical fallacies and counter-argue quickly.

Ditto well-educated Filipinos. Dr Gil Tabucanon, in his book Legal Writing: A Competency Based Approach, has an excellent chapter about recognising the different classes of formal and informal fallacies which I found insightful in its simplicity and clarity.

My experience has been that well-educated Filipinos, like well-educated people of most countries, can easily discern logical fallacies. Seems to me though that many Filipinos, unlike some Westerners, find it disrespectful to draw attention to another person's error of reasoning, and will just let it pass without comment.

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HongKongPhooey

His theory is shit and somewhat racist. Look at how many Filipinos and Filipino communities not only survive but thrive outside the Philippines. Aspects of their culture actually benefit them immensely when applied the right way in “western” cultures, such as focus on education, getting a good job and supporting the family.

On 3/7/2021 at 11:32 AM, fred42 said:

Educated Westerners on the other hand, from early in life are often skilled in the art of verbal debate and Greek logic

This guy is obviously 90 years and not up to speed with modern western youth.

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lamoe
8 hours ago, HongKongPhooey said:

His theory is shit and somewhat racist. Look at how many Filipinos and Filipino communities not only survive but thrive outside the Philippines. Aspects of their culture actually benefit them immensely when applied the right way in “western” cultures, such as focus on education, getting a good job and supporting the family.

This guy is obviously 90 years and not up to speed with modern western youth.

Culture is a result  of environment. Not only family but  those one associates with. 1st and even 2nd generation immigrants to a Western country  may hold and exhibit many of the cultural traits of their parents / home country. (if they stay within ethnic enclaves).  But as they move away and assimilate more fully into Western Culture they tend to modify their cultural actions.

"modern western youth." are a prime example of this, in that their peers can have much more influence than parents  or other authority figures.

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Freekay Velez

They're just thin skinned and passive aggressive. Just smile and laugh and there shouldn't be any trouble. 

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