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onemoretry

To get foreign people in to the country can they copy the thai strategy ? and you think a wise way to get tourist industry start rolling again ?

here is the thai way 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/advanced/1977391/long-stay-visits-possible-this-winter

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Long-stay visits possible this winter

Authorities are finalising a plan that would make it possible for retired, sun-seeking foreigners to spend the coming winter months in Thailand in an effort to save the ailing tourism industry, says a prominent hospital executive.

Although the country’s borders have been closed to most foreigners since late March to fight the pandemic, the government is proposing to grant visas to foreigners who want to stay in Thailand for up to nine months, said Boon Vanasin, chairman of Thonburi Healthcare Group Plc, the country’s third largest private hospital firm, which runs hospitals and retirement homes.

These long-term visitors would begin their stay with a mandatory 14-day quarantine and frequent virus tests in of Phuket. After three weeks on the island and negative test results, they would be free to travel to other regions of the country, according to Dr Boon, who said he has direct knowledge of the government’s plan and expects the arrivals to begin before winter.

Tourism and Sports Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn reiterated on Saturday that he supported the idea of a long-stay tourist visa for selected groups.

Speaking at a news conference during a tour arranged for several ambassadors in Samut Prakan, Mr Phiphat said the initial visa would be for 90 days and could be extended twice more for a total of 270 days.
 
Traisulee Traisoranakul, deputy spokeswoman in the Prime Minister’s Office, said earlier that while the government had approved the plan in principle, it is still finalising measures to reduce the risk of virus infections.

The opening-up would offer a lifeline to the devastated tourism and hospitality industry, which is struggling to survive after five months without foreign visitors. Although Thailand has been one of the world’s most successful countries in curbing Covid-19 — it has not had a locally transmitted case for more than three months — the tourism-reliant economy has been one of the worst-hit globally, projected to shrink by a record 8.5% this year.

The country reported one imported coronavirus infection on Saturday, and none on Sunday.

Also..have not any one react why they have so less death and no one in over 100 days there...I find an interesting story and explanation about it to..but that would be another topic ..

Clark be the pinoy place on the same strategy ?? 

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Chris24

The idea could certainly work.  The main difference right now is that the Philippines is much more locked down for in-country travel, and of course it's safer to stay put anyway.

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onemoretry

Now thai go thru about it and I really hope it works so Philippine can make some learn from it so I can get back haha.. no I think need for everyone and for the economic in general in the country even if Thai is I guess more depending of the tourist...

Well we all need hope and I hope this is a start

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I have a friend living there in Cebu getting ready to leave sometime early Feb. because his 3 years will be up.He was told he could not extend his stay.So plan one is going to Thailand or plan 2 going back to the USA..He is in the process of using a service there in Thailand to get a STV Visa...He understands there will be some hoops he will have to jump through..Yes, things can change there anytime.Im waiting to see how his adventure turns out..Im thinking for me it could be a good change of base camp until the RP opens up again..I see there is a Thai Consulate here in Chicago... Maybe not worth it for short time mongers..haha

http://www.thailongstay.co.th/stv_visa.html

STV  Visa (Special Tourist Visa) is a special visa created during the Covid-19 Pandemic for long stay tourists who would like to travel in Thailand or at least 30 days. Foreigners will be able to apply for this visa until 30 September 2021.

Application Procedure for Special Tourist Visa (STV)

A foreign applicant must e-mail Thailand Longstay Company ([email protected]) to submit his/her intention to apply for the Special Tourist Visa (STV). In the e-mail, please provide the following information of all the applicants:

Photo of the passport that the applicant will use for entry into Thailand

Current Location/Residence (City & Country)

Nearest Thai Embassy/Consulate to the Applicant

The company will send the photo of the passport to the Thai Immigration Bureau to check the applicant’s criminal record

After receiving approval from the Thai Immigration Bureau, the applicant will have to pay the application fee and the company will send the applicant the STV Visa application form and the company will correspond with the applicant regarding:

the 15 days ASQ/ALSQ quarantine accommodation options

accommodation options and requirements after the 15 days quarantine (minimum stay of 15 days) [Total minimum stay of 30 days including the 15 day quarantine]

Options for chartered flights

Medical and Travel Insurance options with a minimum 100,000 USD coverage for Covid-19 medical treatment and a minimum coverage of 400,000 THB for other medical and accident expenses. The insurance must cover for at least 90 days.

Once all payments have been made for all the above items and the applicant must send all of the documents to [email protected]

The company will submit on behalf of the applicant, the STV visa application from and all required documents to the Department of Consular Affairs, Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs to apply for the CoE (Certificate of Entry) and the STV Visa

Once the Department of Consular Affairs, Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs has made the approval, the company will inform the applicant to pick up his/her CoE and STV Visa at the designated Thai embassy/consulate. When picking up the CoE and STV Visa, the applicant must also have a Fit to Fly Certificate & Medical Certificate for General Passengers https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/g_form/general02.pdf https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/guidelines/G23.pdf The Fit to Fly Medical Certificate must states that the applicant does not have covid-19 and these certificates must be issued at least 72 hours before the flight departure.

Once arrived in Thailand, every STV visa holder must follow the public health and safety measure set by the Thai Ministry of Public Health. If the STV visa holder has been tested positive for covid-19 at the airport, the STV visa holder will immediately be sent to the approved hospital. If the STV visa holder has been tested negative for covid-19 at the airport, the STV visa holder will pass through immigration.

STV visa holder will then go under the 15 day quarantine at his/her paid ASQ/ALSQ accommodation. If the STV visa holder is tested negative for covid-19 after the 15 day quarantine, the STV visa holder will be allowed to leave and go stay at his or her chosen accommodation

Application Service Fee and Payment Terms & Conditions:

10,000 THB excluding 7% VAT per applicant

This includes the service fee and the applicant can accessed special promotion and packages from our partnered hotels, insurance providers and other businesses.

This fee does not include the airplane ticket, 15 days ASQ/ALSQ quarantine accommodation nor accommodation after the 15 days quarantine, medical and travel Insurance.

The applicant will also have to pay the 2,000 THB visa fee at the Embassy/Consulate

24th Floor, TP & T Building, 1 Vibhavadi Rangsit Road, (Soi 19), Chatuchak 10900 THAILAND

TEL : (662)-936-1555 ext. 1144, 1145, 1146 | FAX : (662)-936-1646

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Swissrider
I have a friend living there in Cebu getting ready to leave sometime early Feb. because his 3 years will be up.He was told he could not extend his stay.So plan one is going to Thailand or plan 2 going back to the USA..He is in the process of using a service there in Thailand to get a STV Visa...He understands there will be some hoops he will have to jump through..Yes, things can change there anytime.Im waiting to see how his adventure turns out..Im thinking for me it could be a good change of base camp until the RP opens up again..I see there is a Thai Consulate here in Chicago... Maybe not worth it for short time mongers..haha
http://www.thailongstay.co.th/stv_visa.html
STV  Visa (Special Tourist Visa) is a special visa created during the Covid-19 Pandemic for long stay tourists who would like to travel in Thailand or at least 30 days. Foreigners will be able to apply for this visa until 30 September 2021.
Application Procedure for Special Tourist Visa (STV)
A foreign applicant must e-mail Thailand Longstay Company ([email protected]) to submit his/her intention to apply for the Special Tourist Visa (STV). In the e-mail, please provide the following information of all the applicants:
Photo of the passport that the applicant will use for entry into Thailand
Current Location/Residence (City & Country)
Nearest Thai Embassy/Consulate to the Applicant
The company will send the photo of the passport to the Thai Immigration Bureau to check the applicant’s criminal record
After receiving approval from the Thai Immigration Bureau, the applicant will have to pay the application fee and the company will send the applicant the STV Visa application form and the company will correspond with the applicant regarding:
the 15 days ASQ/ALSQ quarantine accommodation options
accommodation options and requirements after the 15 days quarantine (minimum stay of 15 days) [Total minimum stay of 30 days including the 15 day quarantine]
Options for chartered flights
Medical and Travel Insurance options with a minimum 100,000 USD coverage for Covid-19 medical treatment and a minimum coverage of 400,000 THB for other medical and accident expenses. The insurance must cover for at least 90 days.
Once all payments have been made for all the above items and the applicant must send all of the documents to [email protected]
The company will submit on behalf of the applicant, the STV visa application from and all required documents to the Department of Consular Affairs, Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs to apply for the CoE (Certificate of Entry) and the STV Visa
Once the Department of Consular Affairs, Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs has made the approval, the company will inform the applicant to pick up his/her CoE and STV Visa at the designated Thai embassy/consulate. When picking up the CoE and STV Visa, the applicant must also have a Fit to Fly Certificate & Medical Certificate for General Passengers https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/g_form/general02.pdf https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/guidelines/G23.pdf The Fit to Fly Medical Certificate must states that the applicant does not have covid-19 and these certificates must be issued at least 72 hours before the flight departure.
Once arrived in Thailand, every STV visa holder must follow the public health and safety measure set by the Thai Ministry of Public Health. If the STV visa holder has been tested positive for covid-19 at the airport, the STV visa holder will immediately be sent to the approved hospital. If the STV visa holder has been tested negative for covid-19 at the airport, the STV visa holder will pass through immigration.
STV visa holder will then go under the 15 day quarantine at his/her paid ASQ/ALSQ accommodation. If the STV visa holder is tested negative for covid-19 after the 15 day quarantine, the STV visa holder will be allowed to leave and go stay at his or her chosen accommodation
Application Service Fee and Payment Terms & Conditions:
10,000 THB excluding 7% VAT per applicant
This includes the service fee and the applicant can accessed special promotion and packages from our partnered hotels, insurance providers and other businesses.
This fee does not include the airplane ticket, 15 days ASQ/ALSQ quarantine accommodation nor accommodation after the 15 days quarantine, medical and travel Insurance.
The applicant will also have to pay the 2,000 THB visa fee at the Embassy/Consulate
24th Floor, TP & T Building, 1 Vibhavadi Rangsit Road, (Soi 19), Chatuchak 10900 THAILAND
TEL : (662)-936-1555 ext. 1144, 1145, 1146 | FAX : (662)-936-1646
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onemoretry

1 of July Thailand will try get the tourist business wheels running again. I hope the other Asian countries will follow... I cant stand another cold winter in Europe...I got the Vaccine so open the border please !

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2078243/push-to-end-tourist-quarantine-as-shots-rolled-out

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Push to end tourist quarantine as shots rolled out

Thailand is eyeing plans for vaccine passports and quarantine waivers as the global Covid-19 inoculation drive gathers pace.

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha this week ordered officials to look into vaccine certificates for international travel after signaling the country is open to scrapping the two-week quarantine for inoculated visitors.

The local tourism industry wants mandatory quarantines to be lifted from as early as July 1 so it can open to potentially millions of vaccinated tourists.

A successful reopening could spur other tourism-reliant nations to follow suit, as countries like the UK set out ambitious timelines for easing restrictions on their populations and resuming international travel.

While the World Health Organization warned this week about the risks of loosening up too fast, places like Thailand, which saw almost 40 million overseas visitors in 2019, are seeing long-lasting damage to their economies with global travel paralyzed and borders closed a year into the pandemic.

"A gradual reopening, with the appropriate cautionary steps taken, will undoubtedly save businesses, jobs and bolster the economy," said John Blanco, general manager at luxury hotel Capella Bangkok.

"Given the building global momentum of vaccination, it would make sense to begin planning for the necessary steps," he said.

The central bank says tourism, which accounted for about a fifth of the country’s gross domestic product pre-pandemic, is key to returning the economy to growth. Thailand's GDP contracted 6.1% in 2020, the most this century.

Despite a flare-up in infections earlier this year, the country has largely contained Covid-19, with just 85 deaths over the course of the pandemic.

It needs to balance keeping the virus out and protecting the local population with countering the economic hit. While it’s already made some efforts to reopen borders to foreign tourists, strict quarantine rules have kept most away.

William Heinecke, chairman of Minor International, which operates 500 hotels worldwide, is leading a campaign to petition the government to reopen the borders from the third quarter after the pandemic forced hundreds of hotels and tourism businesses to close.

"The current situation is unsustainable," says the online petition, which got almost 7,500 signatories in three days.

"The July 1 reopening would be a strategic opportunity for Thailand to show a leadership role among Asian countries and prepare the way for a solid recovery of the Thai economy in 2022."

Prime Minister Prayut has cautioned against rushing to issue vaccine passports and wants more coordination with other countries.

On track to have vaccinated most of its population soon, Israel is making deals to allow its citizens to travel to a number of countries, including Greece.

While months away from issuing them, the European Union is also prioritizing immunity certificates, and Britain is expected to conclude a review of "Covid status certification," but only by June 21. Europeans, including people from the UK, made up 16% of the foreign tourists into Thailand in 2019.

The country started to roll out vaccines this week and aims to inoculate 50% of its population by the end of this year. There are also plans to distribute vaccines in tourist hotspots such as Phuket and Koh Samui in preparation for a wider reopening.

The government eased curbs on businesses and travel after bringing the recent virus resurgence under control. But having skipped a nationwide lockdown to tackle the resurgence, Thailand may not return to zero cases anytime soon, according to Asst Prof Thira Woratanarat at Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Medicine.

"Figuring out how to reopen for tourists is as important as planning vaccine distribution," said Somprawin Manprasert, chief economist at Bank of Ayudhya. "The sooner the country can reopen for tourists, the sooner the recovery."

"The second wave just delayed the recovery, rather than derailed it," he said. "Even though we’re still in the dark, there’s light at the end of the tunnel."

 

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1 of July Thailand will try get the tourist business wheels running again. I hope the other Asian countries will follow... I cant stand another cold winter in Europe...I got the Vaccine so open the border please !
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2078243/push-to-end-tourist-quarantine-as-shots-rolled-out
Push to end tourist quarantine as shots rolled out
Thailand is eyeing plans for vaccine passports and quarantine waivers as the global Covid-19 inoculation drive gathers pace.
Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha this week ordered officials to look into vaccine certificates for international travel after signaling the country is open to scrapping the two-week quarantine for inoculated visitors.
The local tourism industry wants mandatory quarantines to be lifted from as early as July 1 so it can open to potentially millions of vaccinated tourists.
A successful reopening could spur other tourism-reliant nations to follow suit, as countries like the UK set out ambitious timelines for easing restrictions on their populations and resuming international travel.
While the World Health Organization warned this week about the risks of loosening up too fast, places like Thailand, which saw almost 40 million overseas visitors in 2019, are seeing long-lasting damage to their economies with global travel paralyzed and borders closed a year into the pandemic.
"A gradual reopening, with the appropriate cautionary steps taken, will undoubtedly save businesses, jobs and bolster the economy," said John Blanco, general manager at luxury hotel Capella Bangkok.
"Given the building global momentum of vaccination, it would make sense to begin planning for the necessary steps," he said.
The central bank says tourism, which accounted for about a fifth of the country’s gross domestic product pre-pandemic, is key to returning the economy to growth. Thailand's GDP contracted 6.1% in 2020, the most this century.
Despite a flare-up in infections earlier this year, the country has largely contained Covid-19, with just 85 deaths over the course of the pandemic.
It needs to balance keeping the virus out and protecting the local population with countering the economic hit. While it’s already made some efforts to reopen borders to foreign tourists, strict quarantine rules have kept most away.
William Heinecke, chairman of Minor International, which operates 500 hotels worldwide, is leading a campaign to petition the government to reopen the borders from the third quarter after the pandemic forced hundreds of hotels and tourism businesses to close.
"The current situation is unsustainable," says the online petition, which got almost 7,500 signatories in three days.
"The July 1 reopening would be a strategic opportunity for Thailand to show a leadership role among Asian countries and prepare the way for a solid recovery of the Thai economy in 2022."
Prime Minister Prayut has cautioned against rushing to issue vaccine passports and wants more coordination with other countries.
On track to have vaccinated most of its population soon, Israel is making deals to allow its citizens to travel to a number of countries, including Greece.
While months away from issuing them, the European Union is also prioritizing immunity certificates, and Britain is expected to conclude a review of "Covid status certification," but only by June 21. Europeans, including people from the UK, made up 16% of the foreign tourists into Thailand in 2019.
The country started to roll out vaccines this week and aims to inoculate 50% of its population by the end of this year. There are also plans to distribute vaccines in tourist hotspots such as Phuket and Koh Samui in preparation for a wider reopening.
The government eased curbs on businesses and travel after bringing the recent virus resurgence under control. But having skipped a nationwide lockdown to tackle the resurgence, Thailand may not return to zero cases anytime soon, according to Asst Prof Thira Woratanarat at Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Medicine.
"Figuring out how to reopen for tourists is as important as planning vaccine distribution," said Somprawin Manprasert, chief economist at Bank of Ayudhya. "The sooner the country can reopen for tourists, the sooner the recovery."
"The second wave just delayed the recovery, rather than derailed it," he said. "Even though we’re still in the dark, there’s light at the end of the tunnel."
 
Thai talk a lot and TAT (Tourism Authority Thailand) are the worst. They change their mind every week. So the Thai way is about the same like the Filipino one.

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James Bond

If Thailand is going this slow, the Philippines probably won't reopen till 2022. You'd think they'd be ok with vaccinated tourists. https://onemileatatime.com/thailand-tourism-plan/
 

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As of July 1, 2021, vaccinated tourists will be able to travel to Phuket with no quarantine requirement

If this proves successful, as of October 1, 2021, the quarantine requirement will be scrapped for vaccinated tourists in Chiang Mai, Koh Samui, Krabi, Pattaya, Phang Na, and Phuket

As of some point in 2022, Thailand plans to lift all quarantine requirements for foreign visitors

 

 

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