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Hello everyone, just before xmas last year I was in Cebu, I had a mild stroke, I was taken to Chong Hua Hospital, l I was there for 1 week, I found out after I was cleared to leave the hospital, my wife ex boss who is a doctor was away at the time, when he came back he read the report from the hospital, his reply it took them a long time to admit you, I don't know why, and by this report you did not have a stroke , you had a reaction to medication and even his daughter who is a doctor also said the same thing, the thing have to be thankful for I had travel insurance and when I got back to Australia I got a refund on money spend while at the hospital and medication, its very important if you there on holiday to have travel insurance, thankfully my  credit card covered my expenses.

When I got back to Australia a friend of mine who lived in Cebu for 2 years told me i was lucky many foreigners have problems with that hospital some die because of the lack of care, I know on this site around 2 or 3 years ago there was a member on here who I think died because his money on his credit card ran out,please I hope i can be corrected please,

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BossHog

It's obviously a business and not what we'd consider a hospital.

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baby43

That member who was member I believe had his credit card details kept on charging things to his credit card till money ran out , maybe some can refresh my memory i think he went into that hospital with a stroke also, never heard much more what happened to him.

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Goetz1965

We all know that medical isnt the best here, especially when you have no insurance at all.

But what matters worst is the ignorance of the managment staff at the hospitals!

Everytime I go to Cebu Doctors theres that EXPENSIVE Mercedes or Ford Mustang parked at the entrance of the parking (where the ATMs are). This is the best example of someone showing his richness to the poor people dying outside. It also shows that most rich people here have no common sense and in real don't care about others!

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hyaku

Chong Hua, Fuente lost accreditation back in 2016. A badly cared for Brit lost his leg to gangrene there. I know of other bad cases stemming from bad treatment. It would be my last choice of hospitals.

 

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Goetz1965
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Problem is that nearly all people always complain to the workers, nurses, guards, drivers ONLY!!!

No one has the guts to get really loud and angry and get the MANAGERS out.
THEY are the ones to solve problems. Because they created them with absurd and stupid regulations!

Whenever I complain, I always tell the customer care people to get the manager out his office and down on the floor to me.
And then I tell the manager that I get him out his office because its his duty to know whats going on at the front, and he will never get that from sitting lazy in his office! And yes I tell him to be lazy because I have a complaint and that shows he isn't doing his job right. 
And don't tell me "the poor manager" - those guzs are higher hierarchy and if he can't take my personal complaint against his work he's not worthy to be called manager at all.

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Soupeod

This happened to me in March here in Ormoc.

This happened to Dafey a month ago in Ormoc

And now it happen to this poor guy.  RIP

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Dafey

Fortunately we had some good service from our care providers!

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hyaku
On 6/17/2020 at 8:07 PM, hyaku said:

Chong Hua, Fuente lost accreditation back in 2016. A badly cared for Brit lost his leg to gangrene there. I know of other bad cases stemming from bad treatment. It would be my last choice of hospitals.

The person that lost his leg to gangrene already tried to sue Chong Hua. The responsibility was fobbed of off on management and staff rather than the hospital. It's owned by  Asociación Benévola de Cebú. Ten years ago they owed P127.4 million of unpaid taxes. Not even the government can touch them.  They more or less rent out facilities and services to visiting doctors at an extortionate price.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chong_Hua_Hospital#:~:text=Chong Hua Hospital (simplified Chinese,by Asociación Benévola de Cebú.

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enoonmai
On 6/17/2020 at 8:07 PM, hyaku said:

Chong Hua, Fuente lost accreditation back in 2016. A badly cared for Brit lost his leg to gangrene there. I know of other bad cases stemming from bad treatment. It would be my last choice of hospitals.

 

I was a guest there on the 10th fl for a month in 2011 after a bad accident. I can personally attest to the fact there are some very good and caring doctors; I owe my life to the surgeon, Dr Guardario, who saved it. But it's a crap shoot, I was very lucky and there was no covid.

There will be an investigation like there was in 2014 at the maternity hospital in Cebu where nurses were taping the mouths of babies shut to prevent crying. Just as then, politicians will spew outrage, there will be apologies and nothing will happen. It will be forgotten by next week except for friends and family. 

These are extraordinary times but I would think this incident, and the Pardo barangay captain who was denied treatment in at least 7 hospitals before dying, would give serious pause to anyone considering moving to the phils - or staying there. 

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jtmwatchbiz

chong hua?  I wouldn't even buy a coke out of one of their vending machines much less seek medical attention there.  Lets hope the Garcia family can finally make some headway against that place.  Same for CDH. 

Our family in Cebu City always use Velez Hospital on Ramos St. and their associated offices.  At least one stands a fighting chance of survival there.  

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smokey

I like saint vincent i think its called 

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Kreole
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Does anyone have experience with Cebu Doctor's Hospital?  Now that the "virus" emergency is in effect, the hospitals have all the cover they need to deny entry.  That is quite the turn around from when they would not let you out of the hospital until you had paid your bill.  Is that still happening? 

I can't imagine any foreigner abiding by that bullshit, but Filipinos seem to be subject to that kind of oppression and just keel over.  Imagine being held hostage by a hospital !  I had never heard of this policy before coming to the Philippines.

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Goetz1965

It always comes down on how you appoach people and if you are able to decide for yourself.
Doctory here are like gods, no nurse will question what a doctor tells. 
That way YOU have to decide what will happen to you in a hospital, if you cant decide yourself you are lost in the system!

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Thalcoozyo
On 6/17/2020 at 5:07 PM, hyaku said:

Chong Hua, Fuente lost accreditation back in 2016. A badly cared for Brit lost his leg to gangrene there. I know of other bad cases stemming from bad treatment. It would be my last choice of hospitals.

 

I'm interested... what would be your first choice for critical medical issues like cardiac, pulmonary, strokes, etc.?  I agree... Chong Hua Fuente used to be good, but I've heard otherwise in the past several years. Your impressions and suggestions are appreciated.

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Dafey
12 hours ago, Goetz1965 said:

It always comes down on how you appoach people and if you are able to decide for yourself.
Doctory here are like gods, no nurse will question what a doctor tells. 
That way YOU have to decide what will happen to you in a hospital, if you cant decide yourself you are lost in the system!

Very true. During my hospital visit for appendectomy the doctor came out with a this is what we are going to do attitude. I was very social but had some concerns and asked some pointed questions and his demeanor instantly changed. He even called for a second opinion which after the 2 docs knocked heads lead to 'emergency' surgery rather than we'll get to it tomorrow.   

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SkyMan
2 minutes ago, Dafey said:

Very true. During my hospital visit for appendectomy the doctor came out with a this is what we are going to do attitude. I was very social but had some concerns and asked some pointed questions and his demeanor instantly changed. He even called for a second opinion which after the 2 docs knocked heads lead to 'emergency' surgery rather than we'll get to it tomorrow.   

Yeah, doc wanted me to to stay over the weekend or take a transfusion because I was 2 pints low.  I said I was leaving.  He said, you might get dizzy.  I said you told me to stay in bed for 4 weeks so if I get dizzy, how far will I fall?

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Dafey
31 minutes ago, SkyMan said:

Yeah, doc wanted me to to stay over the weekend or take a transfusion because I was 2 pints low.  I said I was leaving.  He said, you might get dizzy.  I said you told me to stay in bed for 4 weeks so if I get dizzy, how far will I fall?

Should have just topped up 2 pints. If you're not changing the filter why bother to change the oil?

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hyaku
33 minutes ago, Thalcoozyo said:

I'm interested... what would be your first choice for critical medical issues like cardiac, pulmonary, strokes, etc.?  I agree... Chong Hua Fuente used to be good, but I've heard otherwise in the past several years. Your impressions and suggestions are appreciated.

Well most of the specialists do the rounds. For example if just turn up to see one he will probably be at another hospital and you wait for him to come. I guess the problem lies in management.

On 6/18/2020 at 7:17 PM, Soupeod said:

This happened to me in March here in Ormoc.

This happened to Dafey a month ago in Ormoc

And now it happen to this poor guy.  RIP

Where did you go in Ormoc? 

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Dafey
25 minutes ago, hyaku said:

Where did you go in Ormoc? 

Ormoc Doctor's Hospital for me. They are an affiliate of Cebu Doc's and my ER doctor was on loan from CDH and got stuck in Ormoc during the lockdown. My surgeon was one of the founders of the hospital and an excellent physician. Very pleased with the entire hospital.

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SkyMan
14 minutes ago, Dafey said:

Should have just topped up 2 pints.

Unless it's critical I'd rather not test the quality of the blood supply.  2 pints is on the lower end of the dipstick but still in the safe zone unless you're drag racing or something.

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Thalcoozyo
21 minutes ago, hyaku said:

Well most of the specialists do the rounds. For example if just turn up to see one he will probably be at another hospital and you wait for him to come. I guess the problem lies in management.

Not to get pissy... but WHICH HOSPITAL(S) do you consider as providing quality care?  You bad mouthed Chong Hua Fuenta (which is fine).  So what's the best alternative? Thanks.

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cookie47

Only twice I've had to attend a hospital in the many years I'm been coming to the Philippines.

In the 80s I attended ER at a hospital in Iloilo. Stomach pains Sooo bad. Turns out food poisoning.The service was very good. It was a Sunday morning and Quiet.

Second time was last January...(before the Covide really kicked off). Over a number of days I had pin like pains in my head/scalp???.I got spooked thus I was concerned about a stroke as I have slight elevated blood pressure.
So.... Went to Mendero Hospital Consolacion, 5 mins from home..
Walked into Emergency, Immediately was Triage ,,, Spoke to a number of nurses one who suggested a cat scan.. regarding symptoms, was told doctor was in the wards,,and will be down "soon".. So I said Well how about a Cat scan whilst I'm waiting. To my surprise they said no problem, no fuss, no quibbles, Walk to radiology, within 10 minutes having cat scan,,

Went back to ER,,, Doctor perusing scans.

Sir, can't see anything wrong, definitely no bleeds, If you want I can recommend a neurologist.... But it will have to be on Monday.

OK,, Back home, feeling better..

I've since found out lack of vitamin B12 (which seniors need more) can give those symptoms.. Which are now gone.

Note.... this is not medical advice.....

However my only shock (sort of) was again in the 80s.

Visited a lady, friend of wife in Bacolod just had a baby...
Very imposing tropical design building with no air-conditioning,, open louved windows, All beds had mosquito Nets, Room designed for 10 beds but had 20, HOT, well not the word that describes it even with fans. BUT, you know what,, these ladies were smiling, happy, joking, and as a foreigner I was a novelty.. I told my wife if we don't leave soon ill have to to be admitted it was so hot.... After seeing this I thought to myself.. .... don't complain,,, these people have it tough.

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2 hours ago, Thalcoozyo said:

Not to get pissy... but WHICH HOSPITAL(S) do you consider as providing quality care?  You bad mouthed Chong Hua Fuenta (which is fine).  So what's the best alternative? Thanks.

CDUH. Most of the doctors that practice at Chong Hua also practice at CDUH.

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Soupeod
5 hours ago, hyaku said:

Well most of the specialists do the rounds. For example if just turn up to see one he will probably be at another hospital and you wait for him to come. I guess the problem lies in management.

Where did you go in Ormoc? 

I was at my Doctors office in Ormoc being treated for acid reflux, this was a follow up visit (which I had a small cough a week before), after the meds I had zero acid reflux but I had a small siezure, The Dr wanted me to go to Farmers Hospital and called them to bring an Ambulance (This is a couple days before the Ormoc lockdown), they directed my Dr to the Emergency room Dr and they discussed me going there.  Farmers Hospital refused me an ambulance and admittance to the hospital for blood tests and monitoring. My Doctor worked out of that hospital and I could see in his face, he could not believe what they were telling him.  So I told him, I'll grab my driver (My wife obviously doesnt want me driving), and go rest at home.  The Doctor said get some electrolites!  Aye Dr.  and home I went.  

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