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Bloomberg article refers to first Philippine death from coronavirus, 44 year old man from Wuhan. President Duterte has banned all foreign passengers from Mainland, Hong Kong and Macau.

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Its did not start in the market, and the numbers are wrong. But we all knew this already, yes?

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It seems Filipinos and permanent residents returning from PRC, HK and Macau may be subject to quarantine.

Cathay Pacific flight from HK should have arrived a short while ago - wonder what's happening to the passengers. Nothing on CX website yet notifying passengers.

Update, CX921 from HK is just landing at Mactan Cebu.

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CNA just reported the 44 yo man was the traveling companion of the 38 yo Chinese woman that was under watch in Manilla.

She was under watch in Manilla after traveling here to Cebu, then caught a flight to Dumaguette where they spent time at a resort then went to Manilla.  Flew in here Jan 21.

How many more?

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Philippines reports 1st virus death outside of China

BEIJING (AP) — The Philippines on Sunday reported the first death of a new virus outside of China, where authorities delayed the opening of schools in the worst-hit province and the World Health Organization told countries to prepare in the event the disease spreads among their populations.

The Philippine Department of Health said a 44-year-old Chinese man from Wuhan was admitted on Jan. 25 after experiencing fever, cough, and sore throat. He developed severe pneumonia, and in his last few days, “the patient was stable and showed signs of improvement, however, the condition of the patient deteriorated within his last 24 hours resulting in his demise."

The man's 38-year-old female companion, also from Wuhan, tested positive for the virus and remains in hospital isolation in Manila. She's the second case in the Philippines.

Meanwhile, six officials in the city of Huanggang, neighboring the epicenter of Wuhan in Hubei province, have been fired over “poor performance" in handling the outbreak, the official Xinhua News Agency reported.

It cited the mayor as saying the city's “capabilities to treat the patients remained inadequate and there is a severe shortage in medical supplies such as protective suits and medical masks."

Figures from the National Health Commission showed an increase of 45 in the death toll and 2,590 in the number of cases for a total of 14,380, well above the number of those infected in in the 2002-03 outbreak of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, which broke out in southern China before spreading worldwide.

With the outbreak showing little sign of abating, authorities in Hubei and elsewhere have extended the Lunar New Year holiday, due to end this week, well into February. The annual travel crunch of millions of people returning from their hometowns to the cities is thought to pose a major threat of secondary infection at a time when authorities are encouraging people to avoid public gatherings.

All Hubei schools will postpone the opening of the new semester until further notice and students from elsewhere who visited over the holiday will also be excused from classes.

Far away on China's southeast coast, the manufacturing hub of Wenzhou put off the opening of government offices until Feb. 9, private businesses until Feb. 17 and schools until March 1.

With nearly 10 million people, Wenzhou has reported 241 confirmed cases of the virus, accounting for one of the highest levels outside Hubei. Similar measures have been announced in the provinces and cities of Heilongjiang, Shandong, Guizhou, Hebei and Hunan, while the major cities of Shanghai and Beijing were on indefinite leave pending developments.

Despite imposing drastic travel restrictions at home, China has chafed at those imposed by foreign governments, criticizing Washington’s order barring entry to most non-citizens who visited China in the past two weeks. Apart from dinging China's international reputation, such steps could worsen a domestic economic already growing at its lowest rate in decades.

The crisis is just the latest to confront Chinese leader Xi Jinping, who has been beset by months of anti-government protests in the semi-autonomous Chinese city of Hong Kong, the reelection of Taiwan's pro-independence president and criticism over human rights violations in the traditionally Muslim northwestern territory of Xinjiang. Economically, Xi faces lagging demand and dramatically slower growth at home while the tariff war with the U.S. remains largely unresolved.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced similar travel measures Saturday, following Japan and Singapore.

South Korea and India flew hundreds of their citizens out of Wuhan, the city at the center of an area where some 50 million people are prevented from leaving in a sweeping anti-virus effort. The evacuees went into a two-week quarantine.

On Sunday, South Korea reported three more cases for a total of 15. They include an evacuee, a Chinese relative of a man who tested positive and a man who returned from Wuhan.

Indonesia flew back 241 nationals from Wuhan on Sunday and quarantined them on remote Natuna Islands for two weeks.

The virus’ rapid spread in two months prompted the World Health Organization on Thursday to declare it a global emergency.

That declaration “flipped the switch” from a cautious attitude to recommending governments prepare for the possibility the virus might spread, said the WHO representative in Beijing, Gauden Galea. Most cases reported so far have been people who visited China or their family members.

The agency acted out of concern for poorer countries that might not be equipped to respond, said Galea. Such a declaration calls for a coordinated international response and can bring more money and resources.

WHO said it was especially concerned that some cases abroad involved human-to-human transmission.

“Countries need to get ready for possible importation in order to identify cases as early as possible and in order to be ready for a domestic outbreak control, if that happens,” Galea told The Associated Press.

Australia, Germany, Japan, South Korea, the United Arab Emirates, the United States and Vietnam all reported new cases Saturday. Spain confirmed its first case — a German man who had close contact with an infected person in Germany and then traveled to the Canary Islands with friends. Four friends who were hospitalized with him have not shown symptoms.

Both the new virus and SARS are from the coronavirus family, which also includes those that cause the common cold.

The death rate in China is falling, but the number of confirmed cases will keep growing because thousands of specimens from suspected cases have yet to be tested, Galea said.

“The case fatality ratio is settling out at a much lower level than we were reporting three, now four, weeks ago,” he said.

Although scientists expect to see limited transmission of the virus between people with family or other close contact, they are concerned about cases of infection spreading to people who might have less exposure.


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5 days ago

5578 total

131 deaths

107 recovered



right now

14556 total

305 deaths

340 recovered..


I'm hittin the hay..

I'l update when I get up unless someone else keeps up the pace   

Gnite   :lazy:



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1st death outside China is here in the Philippines:  https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/second-chinese-city-bars-residents-leaving-their-homes-hong-kong-workers-demand-city

ZeroHedge was banned on Twitter for an article about possible origins of the virus as a bioweapon (contains four insertions derived from HIV).

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Duterte and travel ban not exactly clear to me at this point... whether certain cities or all of China etc, but seems developing:  https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1222855/break-go-duterte-orders-temporary-travel-ban-on-visitors-from-mainland-china-special-admin-regions?fbclid=IwAR2cfiguKBSeHhNWKsQLUgfVSigdNJkiJxP7TevAEFt688yC8ILU30TIBiE

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So I’m hearing that the couple who came from wuhan (man & woman) (man now deceased 44) traveled to Cebu and transferred flight and went to dumaguete where they vacationed for an unspecified period of time then travelled to Manila where they turned themselves in to the hospital because they were sick. It seems you need not appear sick to be transmitting this virus. I also heard that there are 57 people under observation that had contact with this couple.

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1 hour ago, battleborn said:

CNA just reported the 44 yo man was the traveling companion of the 38 yo Chinese woman that was under watch in Manilla.

She was under watch in Manilla after traveling here to Cebu, then caught a flight to Dumaguette where they spent time at a resort then went to Manilla.  Flew in here Jan 21.

How many more?

Well, didn't the Chinese consulate just announce that 700K Chinese tourists here last year.  That would be ~13.5K per week so maybe 27K.

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On 1/31/2020 at 12:02 PM, TheMatrix said:

Zhong Nanshan (a Chinese pulmonologist who discovered the SARS coronavirus in 2003) suggested simple ways to prevent Wuhan pneumonia:

It is recommended that you rinse your throat with light salt water before going to the hospital or other public places (and do the same after you return home). The method is as follows:

a) hold a mouthful of dilute salt water;
b) raise your head; let the salt water stay around your throat area
c) open your mouth slightly and exhale slowly, let air bubbling through the water in your throat and make a "ha" sound
d) spit out the salt water after a few seconds
e) repeat 3-5 times

Because viruses or bacteria lurk in the pharynx through the nasal passage, diluted salt water can kill them on the spot, thereby achieving the purpose of preventing infection. During SARS, I promoted and supervised this method among my students. As a result, none of our students in our class got cold, cough and fever.

This method is simple, effective, easy to do. But requires persevere.

Zhong Nanshan
January 21, 2020

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So then my mom wasn't crazy when like 50 years ago she was telling me to gargle salt water?

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