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Could be self selection; only really sick people went in to get treated. 

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This is a follow up to a Post I made regarding my nephew and Partner and child that had covide. He has improved that no oxygen is needed now but it did fall to 90% at one point...The child was on

You act like this is something new...  Talk about what's going on anywhere you like as long as you leave politics out of it. There are thousands of posts on the pandemic that have managed to

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12 hours ago, fred42 said:

Chloroquine Phosphate, an antimalarial drug, has a certain curative effect on the coronavirus disease

Chloroquine has some nasty side effects; not something to take lightly or self-administer. I've seen people using it a a prophylactic to deter malaria go a bit crazy. 

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10 hours ago, user333 said:

I have replied to your question. If you want, I can paste your question and my reply as a response so you can see it. You've said that you've read my posts before, but after your careful scrutiny of what I've written, I had to point out an answer to you when you were confused. Did you remember that?  

I guess I missed it or didn't understand - again,   please use A or B so I'm no longer confused.

A = do nothing    B = maximum effort

Posting stats and obfuscation with superfluous verbiage is not  providing a simple answer to a simple question.

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32 minutes ago, lamoe said:

Posting stats and obfuscation with superfluous verbiage is not  providing a simple answer to a simple question.

to simple people

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 Comparison update from yesterday to now 

274,643 total

11,366 deaths

90,942 recoveries

The coronavirus COVID-19 is affecting 185 countries and territories around the world and 1 international conveyance (the Diamond Princess cruise ship harbored in Yokohama, Japan).


Latest Updates

March 20 (GMT)

 5317 new cases and 39 new deaths in the United States

Texas declared a public health disaster for the first time in more than 100 years  [source] 

Illinois: Governor Pritzker issues "stay at home" order for all residents [source] 

New York: Governor Cuomo orders 100% of all non-essential workers to stay home  [source]

Pennsylvania: Governor Wolf orders all businesses that aren’t ‘life-sustaining’ to close [source]

California: Governor Gavin Newson orders the state’s 40 million residents to “stay at home.” The order is “open ended.” Modeling predicts that 56% of the state’s population will be infected over the next eight weeks. Only essential businesses will be allowed to remain open.  All indoor public and private gatherings with 10 or more people are prohibited [source]  

New deaths include: 


The first death in Massachusetts:  an 87-year-old military veteran from Winthrop [source]

7 new deaths in King County (WA) [source]

1 new death in Snohomish County (WA)  [source]

1 new death in Illinois, a woman in her 70s in Cook County [source] 

1 new death in Indiana: an adult resident of Marion County over age 60  [source] 

1 new death in Missouri (Jackson County) a woman in her 80s with no prior travel history [source]

1 new death in Texas: a man in his 80s in Harris County [source] 

1 new death in Riverside County (CA)

1 new death in Louisiana 

2 new deaths in New Jersey 

1 new death in Florida 

8 new deaths in New York, as De Blasio is demanding the federal government mobilize the military to help in the response efforts [source]

First 2 deaths in Wisconsin: a man in his 50s from Fond Du Lac County and a man in his 90s from Ozaukee County  [source]

3 new deaths in Georgia 

First 2 deaths in Vermont: a man from Windsor County and a woman from Chittenden County, both older individuals who likely received the virus through community transmission  [source]

1 new presumptive death in Ohio [source]

1 new death in Connecticut: a man in his 80s from New Canaan (the second person from New Canaan to die) [source]  

New Cases include:


80 new cases in Texas, of which 19 in Dallas County [source] 

75 new cases in Tennessee [source] 

3 new cases in Alabama [source]  

204 new cases in Canada, bringing the total to more than 1,000. [source] New cases include:

77 new cases in B.C.

50 new cases in Ontario

18 new cases in Quebec 

6 new cases in Saskatchewan 

1 new case in Newfoundland and Labrador

1 new case in Nova Scotia

2 new repatriated cases

166 new cases and 4 new deaths in Ecuador [source] [source]

11 new cases in Senegal [source]

160 new cases in Norway [source]

 3433 new cases and 262 new deaths in Spain [source]

25 new cases in New Zealand [source]

1 new case in Barbados [source]

121 new cases in Australia [source]

1 new case and 1 new death in Gabon [source] [source]

16 new cases and 1 new death in Morocco [source]

19 new cases in Bahrain [source]

20 new cases in Croatia [source]

470 new cases in Austria [source]

 4528 new cases and 24 new deaths in Germany [source]

26 new cases in the Republic of North Macedonia [source]

15 new cases in Ukraine [source]

 264 new cases and 4 new deaths in Brazil [source]

311 new cases and 5 new deaths in Turkey [source]

 2 new deaths in the United Arab Emirates, a 78-year-old who had traveled to Europe and a 59-year old Asian expat. Both had underlying conditions. They are the first 2 deaths in the country   [source]

4 new cases and 2 new deaths in Algeria: a woman who was in contact with a previously confirmed case, her brother who died on Monday and a 77-year-old woman suffering from underlying health issues including diabetes [source] [source] [source]

1 new case in Nicaragua [source]

47 new cases and 1 new death in Pakistan: including a 77-year-old patient with a history of carcinoma, diabetes and hypertension [source] [source]

 28 new cases and 1 new death in Israel, an 88-year-old patient. it's the 1st death in the country [source]

1 new case in Bahamas [source]

25 new cases in Bosnia and Herzegovina [source]

29 new cases and 3 new deaths in Peru. Deaths of a 47-year-old man, a 69-year-old man and a 75-year-old man. Two had returned from Spain.   [source] [source] [source]

26 new cases and 1 new death in Costa Rica [source] [source]

6 new cases in Rwanda [source]

31 new cases and 4 new deaths in Greece, 2 men in Athens, 1 in Kozani and a 93-year-old woman  [source]

29 new cases and 1 new death in Egypt [source]

1185 new cases and 13 new deaths in Switzerland [source]

 70 new cases in Poland [source]

16 new cases in Jordan [source] [source]

16 new cases and 4 new deaths in Iraq [source]

1 new death of a former passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship: a Canadian citizen [source]

20 new cases in Lebanon [source]

1 new case in Channel Islands [source]

10 new cases in Qatar [source]

1617 new cases and 78 new deaths in France

12 new cases and 3 new deaths in Hungary [source]

126 new cases in Ireland [source]

 714 new cases and 33 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source] [source]

15 new cases in Lithuania [source]

70 new cases in Saudi Arabia [source]

1 new case in Montenegro [source]

8 new cases in Puerto Rico: two men in their 60s who had recently traveled to Florida [source]

32 new cases and 1 new death in Serbia, the first in the country  [source]

 5986 new cases and 627 new deaths in Italy [source] [source]

Peak could be 2 weeks from now, according to tentative estimates [source]

Deaths include:

a 48-year-old woman who worked as a supermarket cashier in Brescia and died at home after developing a high fever at the beginning of this week

a 47-year-old Army of Carabinieri emergency number command center operator in Bergamo who had been hospitalized in intensive care [source]  [source]

Due to the wrong number being posted on the Official Italian Health Ministry website (Total Cases number was, and still is, posted under the Active Cases label) we were showing incorrect data for a brief moment until we fixed the error. We have now removed that website from our list of reliable sources

139 new cases in Czechia [source]

55 new cases and 1 new death in India. The 5th death in India is that of a 69-year-old Italian tourist in Jaipur [source] [source] [source]

8 new cases in Cyprus [source]

1 new case in Isle of Man [source]

 534 new cases and 30 new deaths in the Netherlands [source]

8 new cases in Kazakhstan [source]

37 new cases in Colombia [source]

104 new cases and 3 new deaths in Denmark [source]

13 new cases in Sri Lanka [source]

17 new cases in Moldova [source]

3 new cases in Guatemala [source]

4 new cases in Georgia [source]

38 new cases in the Dominican Republic [source]

1 new case in Guinea: a 49-year-old woman who had returned from Italy [source]

20 new cases in Bulgaria [source]

2 new cases in Mayotte [source]

10 new cases in Guyana [source]

1 new case in Saint Martin [source]

13 new cases in Slovakia [source]

14 new cases in Cambodia [source]

2 new cases in the Central African Republic [source]

54 new cases in Russia [source]

40 new cases in Singapore: mainly imported [source]

149 new cases and 1 new death in Luxembourg [source]

 1237 new cases and 149 new deaths in Iran [source]

92 new cases in Chile [source]

6 new cases in Vietnam:
- a 25-year-old woman, an international student who had returned from the UK
- a 22-year-old woman who had traveled to Japan and the United States
- a 21-year-old woman who had returned from Span and the United Arab Emirates
- a 43-year-old man who is a pilot for Vietnam Airlines
- 2 nurses at the Bach Mai Hospital, Hanoi  [source] [source]

200 new cases and 5 new deaths in Sweden: including a 95-year-old woman with severe underlying health issues [source] [source]

22 new cases in Slovenia [source]

50 new cases in Finland [source]

130 new cases and 1 new death in Malaysia: a 58-year-old man [source] [source]

1st case in Papua New Guinea: an imported case [source]

5 new cases in Ghana:
- a 29-year-old woman with no history of travel
- a 34-year-old woman who was in contact with a previously confirmed case
- a 53year-old man with no confirmed contact or history of travel 
- a 41-year-old man who had returned from the Netherlands
- a 36-year-old man from Paris, France [source]

 234 new cases and 2 new deaths in Portugal: including a 65-year-old man [source]

5 new cases in Brunei Darussalam [source]

1 new case in Seychelles [source]

6 new cases in Albania [source]

5 new cases in Mauritius [source]

31 new cases in Romania [source]

11 new cases in Malta [source]

8 new cases in Faeroe Islands [source]

79 new cases in Iceland [source]

7 new cases in Burkina Faso [source]

2 new cases in Bangladesh [source]

1 new case in Andorra [source]

 462 new cases and 16 new deaths in Belgium [source]

87 new cases and 3 new deaths in South Korea [source]

1 new case in the State of Palestine [source]

52 new cases in South Africa [source]

3 new cases in Suriname [source]

11 new cases in Kuwait: 1 had traveled to Switzerland while the others had traveled to the UK [source]

16 new cases in Estonia [source]

2 new cases in Guam [source]

48 new cases in China, Hong Kong SAR [source]

1 new case in Monaco [source]

7 new cases in Cameroon [source]

 60 new cases and 7 new deaths in Indonesia [source]

27 new cases and 1 new death in Taiwan [source]

2 new cases in Afghanistan: both had returned from Iran [source]

4 new cases in the DR Congo [source]

13 new cases and 1 new death in the Philippines: a 65-year-old man who had traveled to Singapore [source] [source]

25 new cases in Latvia [source]

10 new cases in Uzbekistan [source]

18 new cases in Belarus [source]

14 new cases in Armenia [source]

8 new cases in Togo [source]

 1st case in Angola: a Chinese businessman [source]

9 new cases in Martinique [source]

 Argentina has gone into complete lockdown, similarly to Italy and Spain “We’ll be absolutely inflexible in the enforcement,” President Alberto Fernández declared. “This is an exceptional measure in an exceptional time"  The government had already shut borders, cancelled almost all flights with the exception of repatriations, closed schools and mandated a 14-day quarantine for anyone traveling from virus hotspots [source]

12 new cases in Guadeloupe [source]

1 new case in Bhutan: the 59-year-old partner of the first case in the country. She is asymptomatic and healthy [source]

1 new case in Jamaica [source]

20 new cases in Japan [source]

5 new cases in French Polynesia [source]

50 new cases in Thailand [source]

3 new cases in Kyrgyzstan [source]

2 new cases in Ethiopia [source]

12 new cases in Honduras [source]

1 new case in Bolivia [source]

15 new cases in Uruguay [source]

46 new cases in Mexico [source]

5 new cases in Cuba [source]

39 new cases, 3 new deaths (2 in Hubei), and 730 new discharges occurred in China on March 19, as reported by the National Health Commission (NHC) of China. For the second day in a row, no new confirmed or suspected cases have been reported in Wuhan and in Hubei [source]  All new cases were imported from overseas (no new domestically transmitted infections for the second consecutive day)


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1 minute ago, Dafey said:

to simple people

Yep, I'm a very simple person - which is why I have trouble with sarcasm - I don't BS or try to avoid answering a question regarding something I've stated.  :rolleyes:


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On 3/19/2020 at 10:23 PM, JohnSurrey said:

Apparently there have already been a few cases of pui's dying in Leyte (ormoc and tacloban)... recorded as due to "other causes" as no testing available... so looks like we maybe following the Chinese approach here.



Hey John, do you have a source?

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125,000 coronavirus test kits from China, South Korea to arrive in PH on March 21



MANILA, Philippines – Health Secretary Francisco Duque III said that 125,000 novel coronavirus testing kits from China and South Korea will arrive in the Philippines early Saturday morning, March 21.

Duque said in an interview on DZMM on Friday, March 20, that authorities have been alerted about the shipments to ensure their speedy release.

“Tinutukuan ko ‘yung mga test kits kasi nga may paparating na 25,000 from South Korea and 100,000 from China tomorrow at 5 am. Tinututukan ko ‘yung Bureau of Customs saka FDA na mapabilis ang release, kasi ‘’yung ating number one na kakulangan, 'yung ating testing capacity,” Duque said in an interview aired on DZMM on Friday morning.

(I focused on the test kits because there are 25,000 kits from South Korea and 100,000 from China that will arrive tomorrow at 5 am. I coordinated with the Bureau of Customs and the Food and Drug Administration to speed up the release because this is what we lack now, the testing capacity.)

The additional test kits are expected to enable health workers to test more people for the virus. As of Friday, the Research Institute for Tropical Medicine can perform 450 tests per day.

The 4 new laboratories which were recently accredited by the World Health Organization (WHO), were only given 100 test kits each due to the limited supply.

“What my concentration is now is to ensure that those 4 subnational labs are really operating according to set standards of safety and accuracy of testing. Puwede na silang tumanggap (They can receive samples already), but that depends because of the limited test kits sent to them. One hundred pa lang ang mayroon sila sa ngayon (They only have 100 test kits each right now)," Duque said in a phone interview with Rappler.

The lack of test kits available in the country has forced the Department of Health (DOH) to prioritize tests on persons under investigation (PUI) with severe symptoms. Elderly who manifest COVID-19 symptoms, whether mild or severe, and those who have underlying medical conditions will automatically get tested for possible infection. (READ: When should you get tested for coronavirus?)

As of Thursday, the Philippine has 217 confirmed cases of coronavirus, 17 deaths, and 8 recoveries. – Rappler.com


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5 hours ago, BossHog said:

Chloroquine has some nasty side effects; not something to take lightly or self-administer. I've seen people using it a a prophylactic to deter malaria go a bit crazy. 

While you are correct about not self-administering, the course of Hydroxychloroquine for treatment of the Wuhan Coronavirus being recommended is only five days long (one day 400mg. twice a day and four days 200mg. twice a day. All of the studies that showed adverse effects were for long-term use. Nevertheless, you shouldn't take this medication (or any other) unless prescribed by a doctor.

BTW, I checked with Rose Pharmacy to see if they even have it, and they are out of stock and no idea when then will get more stock in. They said they have a request for more Hydroxychloroquine in with their supplier (probably in China). Hydroxychloroquine is a milder form of Chloroquine with less adverse effects. This is one of those medications in the Philippines that you can only get with a prescription.

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This is one of those medications in the Philippines that you can only get with a prescription.

Hell I guess we are lucky we can even buy vitamins over the counter here lol

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7 minutes ago, JonnyBravo said:

Hell I guess we are lucky we can even buy vitamins over the counter here lol

Our local Generics Pharmacy dispenses Tramadol copies for six pesos a tab. Without a prescription. Enough people walking around goofy on pills it's nearly as bad as West Virginia.

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Garcia orders 24-hour curfew for senior citizens, students in Cebu province

March 21, 2020

CEBU Governor Gwendolyn Garcia has ordered the implementation of a 24-hour curfew for senior citizens 65 years old and above, as well as students in the province starting 3 p.m., Sunday, Mach 22, 2020.

However, those who need to go to medical facilities are exempted from the order.

In a press conference Saturday, Garcia said that she will sign an executive order (EO) and will ask all mayors of the province to also release a similar EO.

"Ang tanan nga mga estudyante will be on a 24-hour curfew. Diha nalang sila sulod sa balay. Ang mga kapolisan sa checkpoints ug ang atong mga military mo-check kanila ug mao usab ang mosita kanila kon sila dili motuman," Garcia said.

(All students will be on a 24-hour curfew. They should stay in their homes. Our police and military personnel will be at checkpoints to apprehend those who will not follow the order.)

Those who plan to go outside their houses are also required to bring identification (ID) cards.

"Ngano man? Aron kini pagsuta kon kini estudyante ba o empleyado (why? To help identify if they are students or employees)," the governor said.

On Thursday evening, local leaders have agreed to not implement a province-wide lockdown even with the discovery of the first confirmed coronavirus disease (Covid-19) case in Mandaue City.

Following a three-hour meeting held at the Cebu Provincial Capitol, Garcia, the mayors of Cebu’s four major cities and Presidential Assistant for the Visayas Michael Dino agreed that instead of a lockdown, strict measures to control the movement of people must be implemented to prevent the spread of the deadly virus among the populace.

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How does one check if an individual is a student? would have been better if anyone under 21?  should stay at home

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